Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,451 55.8%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 285 11.0%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 609 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,600
It was like Mr Huang or something. He sucked. He was terrible. But audiences and even the judges ate that shit up.

William Hung. Like Rus, also an amazing dancer.

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[QUOTElleystring, post: 2777631, member: 19624"]Hey everyone. Been lurking this site since the Dan Cilley thread was made (damn I miss that guy). Created an account today when I downloaded the new Rus video, because I was not going to let that shit slide if he deleted it before anyone could grab it. Anyway for those who haven't seen, this is America's latest hero- Kevin Neal. Now, this is one of the craziest looking dudes I've ever seen, and within a second of looking at him you know he's completely insane. They have different kinds of crazy looks, but Russell doesn't look much better to be honest. View attachment 315761View attachment 315756[/QUOTE]

HUUUUUUUUUGE difference between these guys, Kevin Neal could actually get laid without having to pay the woman :)

ETA: sorry @Cilleystring , tried to 'quote' you but 'effed it up
 
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Here's my reasoning for believing that Russ had a gun on the campus, and that it's not idle highschool rumour.

Russ himself acknowledges that he spent two weeks in prison following his actions. Given that he admits to two weeks, the reality is that it might have been considerably longer. Since he is (a) well-aware of the gun rumour and has not directly addressed it, nor (b) been capable of giving a specific, unambiguous and consistent account of the incident, having previously claimed to have written some harmless misinterpreted joke under the influence of painkillers following dental surgery and (c) in light of the fact that he never again was permitted to set foot on the school property (he claims that he had sufficient credits to graduate without having to return, which is convenient and doubtful), and (d) that I cannot imagine any way that he would have actually been in prison for two weeks or indeed any time at all for what he actually claims to have done, I am left with no alternative but to believe that he either made very specific threats, and/or that he made threats or comments of a vaguer nature that were concerning in light of the fact that he was also found to be armed on the premises.

I also see no reason to give Russell the benefit of the doubt here. It would have been very easy for Russell to clearly defend himself earlier in respect of these allegations if they were in fact untrue. Furthermore, to deny that Russell had any intentions of murder would be, to some extent, to defend Russell against the very evidence that he provided against himself in his bathroom grafitti. I see no reason to white knight for him in such a way, and I believe that, until I am presented with strong evidence to the contrary, I am fully justified in assuming that he did in fact attend the premises to do precisely what he said he wanted to do -- i.e. kill his classmates.
 
Here's my reasoning for believing that Russ had a gun on the campus, and that it's not idle highschool rumour.

Russ himself acknowledges that he spent two weeks in prison following his actions. Given that he admits to two weeks, the reality is that it might have been considerably longer. Since he is (a) well-aware of the gun rumour and has not directly addressed it, nor (b) been capable of giving a specific, unambiguous and consistent account of the incident, having previously claimed to have written some harmless misinterpreted joke under the influence of painkillers following dental surgery and (c) in light of the fact that he never again was permitted to set foot on the school property (he claims that he had sufficient credits to graduate without having to return, which is convenient and doubtful), and (d) that I cannot imagine any way that he would have actually been in prison for two weeks or indeed any time at all for what he actually claims to have done, I am left with no alternative but to believe that he either made very specific threats, and/or that he made threats or comments of a vaguer nature that were concerning in light of the fact that he was also found to be armed on the premises.

I also see no reason to give Russell the benefit of the doubt here. It would have been very easy for Russell to clearly defend himself earlier in respect of these allegations if they were in fact untrue. Furthermore, to deny that Russell had any intentions of murder would be, to some extent, to defend Russell against the very evidence that he provided against himself in his bathroom grafitti. I see no reason to white knight for him in such a way, and I believe that, until I am presented with strong evidence to the contrary, I am fully justified in assuming that he did in fact attend the premises to do precisely what he said he wanted to do -- i.e. kill his classmates.


The only problem I have with the "Russ had a gun" theory is that a crime of that magnitude would be fairly hard to cover up. It's hard too imagine that post-Columbine a student with a gun and kill list wouldn't have ended up with some sort of news coverage. That doesn't seem like something the administration or authorities could just sweep under the rug. Even without naming the culprit directly, there should be some news accounts if such an incident occurred, but I've yet to see any. I'm not saying there's no proof out there, I just haven't seen it yet.
 
The only problem I have with the "Russ had a gun" theory is that a crime of that magnitude would be fairly hard to cover up. It's hard too imagine that post-Columbine a student with a gun and kill list wouldn't have ended up with some sort of news coverage. That doesn't seem like something the administration or authorities could just sweep under the rug. Even without naming the culprit directly, there should be some news accounts if such an incident occurred, but I've yet to see any. I'm not saying there's no proof out there, I just haven't seen it yet.

Well, they might have pulled punches if someone used the "disabled student" card. But you're right; it is less likely.

Also, that dance.

 
Here's my reasoning for believing that Russ had a gun on the campus, and that it's not idle highschool rumour.

Russ himself acknowledges that he spent two weeks in prison following his actions. Given that he admits to two weeks, the reality is that it might have been considerably longer. Since he is (a) well-aware of the gun rumour and has not directly addressed it, nor (b) been capable of giving a specific, unambiguous and consistent account of the incident, having previously claimed to have written some harmless misinterpreted joke under the influence of painkillers following dental surgery and (c) in light of the fact that he never again was permitted to set foot on the school property (he claims that he had sufficient credits to graduate without having to return, which is convenient and doubtful), and (d) that I cannot imagine any way that he would have actually been in prison for two weeks or indeed any time at all for what he actually claims to have done, I am left with no alternative but to believe that he either made very specific threats, and/or that he made threats or comments of a vaguer nature that were concerning in light of the fact that he was also found to be armed on the premises.

I also see no reason to give Russell the benefit of the doubt here. It would have been very easy for Russell to clearly defend himself earlier in respect of these allegations if they were in fact untrue. Furthermore, to deny that Russell had any intentions of murder would be, to some extent, to defend Russell against the very evidence that he provided against himself in his bathroom grafitti. I see no reason to white knight for him in such a way, and I believe that, until I am presented with strong evidence to the contrary, I am fully justified in assuming that he did in fact attend the premises to do precisely what he said he wanted to do -- i.e. kill his classmates.

The only problem I have with the "Russ had a gun" theory is that a crime of that magnitude would be fairly hard to cover up. It's hard too imagine that post-Columbine a student with a gun and kill list wouldn't have ended up with some sort of news coverage. That doesn't seem like something the administration or authorities could just sweep under the rug. Even without naming the culprit directly, there should be some news accounts if such an incident occurred, but I've yet to see any. I'm not saying there's no proof out there, I just haven't seen it yet.

I agree. Two weeks to a few months is a fairly reasonable time to wait in jail, assuming his family can't afford bond for a pretrial for an offense without a gun on campus. I'm only speculating, but I suspect that a kill list and a gun on campus would lead to an actual sentence these days. A competent lawyer would get charges minimized if he had a gun but not on campus, even with a kill list, but I can't imagine his family having money for a competent lawyer.

Tl:Dr I doubt rusty had a gun on campus but can't rule it out. He may have had one not on campus, but that's really not too damning. Who knows what really happened, but I can't find any news coverage either.

When is the gun incident supposed to have happened?
December 3rd, 2009, according to Russ' book, which we know is 100% accurate.

December 2009, ish, but he's one of the least reliable narrators I've ever seen. He gets the day of the week wrong that he quotes. So who knows.
 
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Guys, I take your point, but Russ claimed (via the graffiti) that he wanted to kill his classmates. Where the evidence is otherwise ambiguous - no thanks to Russell and his endless lies - why take a position that dismisses Russell's own expressed intentions? He says he wants to kill people, the rumor is that he acted in a way to try to kill people, and so I dislike the guy enough to not defend him by claiming his words were not fully meant in earnest.

Yeah, I guess I'm prejudiced. He's such a clearly evil man, which is something that is surprisingly easy to overlook with all the autism and lowcowness, and everyone in his vicinity is immeasurably lucky that he's limited by his cowardice. One day when he's got nothing to lose - or to be accurate, when he eventually recognises that he has nothing to lose - he will murder, I'm sure of it.
 
Dear lord. That video is terrifying. He sent a similar one early on to Taylor’s group of him pretending to play guitar to one of her songs that was linked here. It seems Russ hasn’t realized that adorable/funny actions that children do are not seen as adorable or funny when adults do them.

As an unrelated note, it looks like he has too much product in his hair. As though he lathers in mouse in an attempt to create a curl from wavy hair. His hair doesn’t move as though it’s cemented. Too much oil typically won’t create the cemented look but too much mouse or hair spray will.
 
As an unrelated note, it looks like he has too much product in his hair. As though he lathers in mouse in an attempt to create a curl from wavy hair. His hair doesn’t move as though it’s cemented. Too much oil typically won’t create the cemented look but too much mouse or hair spray will.

He probably throws an actual mouse in a blender.
 
I'm new here, but surprised no one's found an article about the whole hit list incident. Do we know what school or where he went to school?

Sorry to powerlevel here, but a kid made a hit list when I was in high school around the same year as Russ's incident, and I can still find news articles online about it. And they didn't even have guns or go to jail.
 
As an unrelated note, it looks like he has too much product in his hair. As though he lathers in mouse in an attempt to create a curl from wavy hair. His hair doesn’t move as though it’s cemented. Too much oil typically won’t create the cemented look but too much mouse or hair spray will.
That makes sense. The way he spazzes around dances should have his hair flying all over the place, especially when he jumps. Could the effect be worsened if he already has oily hair, dumps conditioner on it, and adds hair product on top of it all?
 
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