Dutch Angel Dragons

Valiant said:
Let me explain.

  1. Buy an Adoptable that's in an Adoptable RPG. Seen mostly in dA.
  2. Draw a picture, send it to the group's page
  3. Some unpaid mook goes and accepts it and gives you an item for completing a task.
  4. Sell that item and the fake cash they give you for real money.
  5. Congrats you are getting easy money.

They will accept any drawing as long as it follows the guidelines, usually just asking for a background and a full body image. If you have a whole group of people just constantly grinding out images supporting eachother in a chain then you can clean house very easily. Most of these groups are highly unorganised and it's all about buying your way through.
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This really sounds like some shitty Neopets thing.

Got any links to this?
 
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Cuddly Pirate said:
Actually since the adoptables thing is mentioned, there's also a rule on the site about them, and the whole specifics on making DaD adoptables.

http://www.dutchangeldragons.com/adoptable-guidelines
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All designs must follow the character creation guidelines; failure to ensure this can mean big concequences not only for you but significantly for your buyer.
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TF does this mean? If you don't do it our way the DaD Gestapo is coming to your house to take you away.
 
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Cuddly Pirate said:
This really sounds like some shitty Neopets thing.

Got any links to this?
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Look up Draco Styrx or Tokatas, they are the biggest. Look at the for sales group to see. The owner of these super successful groups get thousands in unclaimed cash through PayPal and are incredibly aggressive about their "copyright". They are riddled with scams and dumb people eat up this TRASH.
 
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Valiant said:
Look up Draco Styrx or Tokatas, they are the biggest. Look at the for sales group to see. The owner of these super successful groups get thousands in unclaimed cash through PayPal and are incredibly aggressive about their "copyright". They are riddled with scams and dumb people eat up this TRASH.
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Apologies if this is a bit ween-y, but maybe we could have a group of kiwis set up shop in one of these things, see how much we can game the system.
 
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Valiant said:
Look up Draco Styrx or Tokatas, they are the biggest.
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Draco Styrx are literally just based on Wan Shi Tong and all those other heavily-bird dragon creatures in media. They don't even have any claim to their nebulous species specs, so they can't defend their copyright. See pic below: A bird dragon made 10 years before the Draco Styrx group was founded.
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Also related: A bird-dragon OC made 2,200 years before the DeviantArt group was founded.
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Valiant said:
Yes. It was hella spergy, kids still do adoptables but ask for real fucking money now it's a crazy ass fucking biz and ludicrous how easy it is to get money.
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Even better are growth drives. $1 = 1lb. You have to draw like 3 increments and that's it. 3 mediocre drawings that usually ends up at $1k total, and then write it off as "I need money for surgery" (because artists seemingly can't figure out saving up in case of bad luck. God forbid they don't just turn the next 3 hours into $90).

Saw a really mediocre copy-paste/style-never-improves artist do an "orgy" scene YCH at ~$900 per slot. Prices weren't based on sexual activity, exposure or size. Was just random values, except of course the single male in a submissive position was the most expensive. Go tell any employed concept artist that someone is drawing a fox taking a shit at $65/hour rates. It must be suicide material.

You can indeed really easily game this "system". I knew a really solid and reliable artist, and they told me their strategy was to put on an act when accepting scat/blood art, just to push the money. The second scattyfox92 sees that you do scat, you became that scat artist and you'll get swarmed with all these extra-fee commissions. Oh you want hyper overweight or macro? I mean, that means I have to draw these line larger, but in theory I'm drawing more mass, so I need another $50. Oh I need to draw a log of shit too? That'll be $45.

Screw the painters going to Rome for first-hand experience of classic art; dedicated months of their lives to study techniques of old. Draw a veiny, poopy dick, and you're set for life.
 
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Cactus Wings said:
Even better are growth drives. $1 = 1lb. You have to draw like 3 increments and that's it. 3 mediocre drawings that usually ends up at $1k total, and then write it off as "I need money for surgery" (because artists seemingly can't figure out saving up in case of bad luck. God forbid they don't just turn the next 3 hours into $90).

Saw a really mediocre copy-paste/style-never-improves artist do an "orgy" scene YCH at ~$900 per slot. Prices weren't based on sexual activity, exposure or size. Was just random values, except of course the single male in a submissive position was the most expensive. Go tell any employed concept artist that someone is drawing a fox taking a shit at $65/hour rates. It must be suicide material.

You can indeed really easily game this "system". I knew a really solid and reliable artist, and they told me their strategy was to put on an act when accepting scat/blood art, just to push the money. The second scattyfox92 sees that you do scat, you became that scat artist and you'll get swarmed with all these extra-fee commissions. Oh you want hyper overweight or macro? I mean, that means I have to draw these line larger, but in theory I'm drawing more mass, so I need another $50. Oh I need to draw a log of shit too? That'll be $45.

Screw the painters going to Rome for first-hand experience of classic art; dedicated months of their lives to study techniques of old. Draw a veiny, poopy dick, and you're set for life.
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Oh yeah, it's incredibly crazy how this shit goes. One example I know of an artist going this route was a friend of mine (very talented and smart) who just latched onto the market with the adoptables and is making bank. She paints about 4 image backgrounds and then says "$900 dollars and I will paint your animal here so your shit fake animal is a little bit better at something in each image three times." I'm very serious, in little to no effort this sly fucker is rolling up $2k a month just drawing about 10 background images on Photoshop and then offering it into the marketplace getting lapped up.

I am a little bit envious with her about it, and I tried dabbling in it for a bit with her help and got $30 bucks for one piece I did. Turns out there is a whole incentive for people to buy artwork.
I mean.. it's not the seller whose the exceptional individual, it's the buyer.
 
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Good god do these faggots deserve a thread. Every single “Dutchie” I’ve run into has been pretentious to the max. They seem to think that they are truly special because they have a “closed species” character that is usually fuck ugly.

Don’t even get me started with Telephone who deserves her own thread. Her trying to cancel the DaD meets at a convention a few years ago because she wasn’t running them was hilarious
 
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Cactus Wings said:
Even better are growth drives. $1 = 1lb. You have to draw like 3 increments and that's it. 3 mediocre drawings that usually ends up at $1k total, and then write it off as "I need money for surgery" (because artists seemingly can't figure out saving up in case of bad luck. God forbid they don't just turn the next 3 hours into $90).

Saw a really mediocre copy-paste/style-never-improves artist do an "orgy" scene YCH at ~$900 per slot. Prices weren't based on sexual activity, exposure or size. Was just random values, except of course the single male in a submissive position was the most expensive. Go tell any employed concept artist that someone is drawing a fox taking a shit at $65/hour rates. It must be suicide material.

You can indeed really easily game this "system". I knew a really solid and reliable artist, and they told me their strategy was to put on an act when accepting scat/blood art, just to push the money. The second scattyfox92 sees that you do scat, you became that scat artist and you'll get swarmed with all these extra-fee commissions. Oh you want hyper overweight or macro? I mean, that means I have to draw these line larger, but in theory I'm drawing more mass, so I need another $50. Oh I need to draw a log of shit too? That'll be $45.

Screw the painters going to Rome for first-hand experience of classic art; dedicated months of their lives to study techniques of old. Draw a veiny, poopy dick, and you're set for life.
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When you said “orgy scene for $900” I thought you meant Miles-DF, but he doesn’t do scat iirc so I’m not sure who you’re talking about.

Actually there’s another artist on Twitter who’s gone through one of his $4000 orgy pics and pointed out the huge errors he made (like forgetting legs and entire BODIES) in it, which reaffirms to me that a furry and his money are easily parted. But that’s getting a bit :offtopic:
 
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According to the furries in Austin Texas Telephone tried to destroy fursuits because she didn't like them. Now I'm not sure if they were dutchies or just ugly fursuits. If someone wants to dig into that they can, people were saying that telephone's fucking cult wiped evidence off the face of the earth but nothing is sacred and I'm sure one of you has the skills to find this.
 
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Dogetective said:
Don’t even get me started with Telephone who deserves her own thread. Her trying to cancel the DaD meets at a convention a few years ago because she wasn’t running them was hilarious
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Almost-powerlevel, but I was at one of the first of those cons.

Weirdest conversation with con staff I've EVER had. "How's it going this time? Anything bad?" "No, no... Well, there's this huge problem where there's two Dutch Angel Dragon meets and they almost came to blows." "Wait, what?"
 
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PeenusButter said:
According to the furries in Austin Texas Telephone tried to destroy fursuits because she didn't like them. Now I'm not sure if they were dutchies or just ugly fursuits. If someone wants to dig into that they can, people were saying that telephone's fucking cult wiped evidence off the face of the earth but nothing is sacred and I'm sure one of you has the skills to find this.
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Sadly I don’t have any proof, but the story goes that it was over some DaD fursuit she didn’t approve of because it didn’t fit into her canon.
 
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