TGWTG Kyle Kallgren / Oancitizen / Brows Held High - Afraid of the Eggnog Ninjas, "Male Feminist" that Abuses Women, 2nd-rate Cinema Snob, Hugh Hefner A-Log, Fat Creepy Incel Cuck

Doctor Stan said:
I recall him showing up a lot at random in other peoples videos too, I think they were trying hard to push the artsy guy for whatever reason, and it seemed to be a desperate move to me to promote the new talent to gain some traction instead of falling off like their smaller contributors, the only one coming to mind was Blockbuster something or another, but there were a lot of minor contributors to Those Guys With the Autism.
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Although I'm sure promotion was an influence in him appearing in other videos, it wasn't the only reason for it necessarily. Kyle emerged onto TGWTG in 2011, which is also roughly the same time the higher-ups of the site begun to truly realize they could capitalize upon the novelty and appeal of crossover reviews. Events like the anniversary movies and MAGFest, for example, became occasions where crossovers were strongly encouraged and eventually required of the site's contributors.

I think it was during the filming of either Suburban Knights or To Boldly Flee when Mike Michaud was basically like "hey guys, we're explicitly telling you to film crossover reviews while you're all here so you can make the site more money". And then some shady finances happened, like the site alone got the profits from these crossovers, and the reviewers were fucked unless they also filmed their own content during this time. Something like that. It's been years since I read the receipts on this so details may be off.

In any case, the overbearing presence of Kyle was a symptom of a larger problem, I think.
 
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Magnum Dong said:
Although I'm sure promotion was an influence in him appearing in other videos, it wasn't the only reason for it necessarily. Kyle emerged onto TGWTG in 2011, which is also roughly the same time the higher-ups of the site begun to truly realize they could capitalize upon the appeal of crossover reviews. Events like the anniversary movies and MAGFest, for example, became occasions where crossovers were strongly encouraged and eventually required of the site's contributors.

I think it was during the filming of either Suburban Knights or To Boldly Flee when Mike Michaud was basically like "hey guys, we're explicitly telling you to film crossover reviews while you're all here so you can make the site more money". And then some shady finances happened, like the site alone got the profits from these crossovers, and the reviewers were fucked unless they also filmed their own content during this time. Something like that. It's been years since I read the receipts on this so details may be off.

In any case, the overbearing presence of Kyle was a symptom of a larger problem, I think.
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RapCritic did a crossover with someone not even related to TGWTG: In fact, he does content with that guy more than any TGWTG members. Mues Productions (formerly a blip reviewer, then moved to his own site, which he let the domain expire on, and now fully on Youtube) is a much smaller channel with even smaller views, but pretty active (and has been doing a weekly podcast with Rap Critic for about 2 years now, I think).

For scale:
  1. Rap Critic: 219k subs
  2. Kyle Kallgren: 40k subs
  3. Mark Mues: 30k subs
 
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Phil Ken Sebben said:
It's also historically more accurate with the whole Greek Chorus effectively acting like narrators talking about what's going on on screen.

So as Disney makes musicals, make them musical and suddenly you have a gospel group belting out songs. It fits perfectly with the concept. And yes, in this version he's born a full blown God and not just a demi-god.

Lindsay lets her politics get in the way of her brain at times.
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The comparison to Rocky and Superman were dumb too, because neither of them fell from grace. Superman ascended to greatness once he was removed from Krypton and Rocky achieved it through his grit and determination. Neither of them were aiming to regain a former status, both Supes and Rocky came from mundanity & became pillars of unique greatness of their time.
 
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Wew Lad, this thread sure took off. Would have bet that Nash's thread would have had this many post instead.

Oscar Wildean said:
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Isn't funny that out of the three in that photo, only Kyle is still the same gender?

Magnum Dong said:
Speaking of "Oancitizen", does anyone remember how Kyle responded to the "Ralph Oancitizen" and "Escargoancitizen" fan nicknames? Because that seems like the kind of thing that would've bothered him, but I can't recall if he ever spoke out.
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I know he didn't mind the Ralph Oancitizen. He did a cameo in Phelous' review of Jeepers Creepers where Lupa called him that. IIRC, It was a bit of an in joke at the time because someone put his birth name as that on IMDB. That's where the joke in Phelous' review about his budget being $5000 CAD came from.

ForgottenAcct said:
Would he? I used to watch his videos, but I don't follow any of them on social media. I've run his podcast while playing vidya a few times and know his political leanings aren't to my taste, but I've never heard any real drama about him.
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I know Rap critic has a rap career. Also, back when I used to watch his vids, his taste in hip hop was bad and cringy. He basically circlejerked about Conscious hip hop and put Hopsin at the top of his best songs of the year list twice in a row (Ill Mind 4 & 5 btw).

Oscar Wildean said:
If the most annoying TGWTG users had attention getting names, it's not a surprise that Paw and MikeJ didn't get seen much. They had boring names.
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Isn't Paw a cuck or some shit? I know he started with the SJW shit as soon as he started dating, and then marrying, Lindsay's friend.

Deathfromabove said:
Guru Larry did an interview with Chris Chan back in the day and I've seen him comment on mister metokur videos, I have no doubt he lurks here secretly
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I have no idea where Larry gets the time. Unless he has a team of researches doing his research for Fact Hunt vids.
 
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tehpope said:
Would have bet that Nash's thread would have had this many post instead.
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Nash's history isn't nearly as riddled with insecurity & batshittery as his contemporaries, I guarantee he only managed himself a thread because of his hateful rhetoric toward those dead miners. How'd he go on for so many years without a thread if that weren't the case?
 
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ForgottenAcct said:
Is it true that their daughter (I think it's a girl) is currently being raised agendered until she decides what gender she is?
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Their child's a boy, named Grey. And I don't think that's true - at the very least, Paw uses male pronouns for the kid when posting about him on his Instagram (link). I like to assume in this instance raising him as agender doesn't mean that quite so literally, and more just means "we're not gonna force our son into only doing/liking/wearing Boy Things if he doesn't wanna", but who knows, really.
 
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2odastream said:
You might be thinking of Lionmaker or Yammimash, anyone who does Minecraft videos is bound to diddle kids anyway.
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Let's go through and see which one he looks more like.
For reference
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Bashur

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LionMaker

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Yammimash

He definitely looks most like Bashur out of the 3 mentioned.
 
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Magnum Dong said:
!!! I remember that. That was weird drama. Of all the things Kyle's ever gotten oddly hostile over, the Rants drama takes the cake as the most unreasonable to me. Because, at worst, Rants was an overexcitable blog moderator who sometimes latched onto others' "secrets" as an opportunity to gush about reviewers he liked. He was a harmless, albeit eccentric, fan. And nobody deserves to have one of their favorite internet personalities imply it's annoying or bad that they passionately enjoy their content.
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Wasn't Rants a teenager at the time? Poor kid, I can't imagine how hurt he must have felt when he saw that video.
 
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VermilionFluttershy said:
Wasn't Rants a teenager at the time? Poor kid, I can't imagine how hurt he must have felt when he saw that video.
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He was. And I remember a post he made on the TGWTG Secrets blog shortly after interacting with Kyle, talking about how negative the encounter was. And what hurt my heart is, Rants didn't focus on his own hurt feelings, it was more on how he was disappointed someone from the site had the capacity to be so mean, like he was having his very first "This is why I can't put people on a pedestal" moment. What a way to learn your idols are fallible, amirite.
 
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Magnum Dong said:
He was. And I remember a post he made on the TGWTG Secrets blog shortly after interacting with Kyle, talking about how negative the encounter was. And what hurt my heart is, Rants didn't focus on his own hurt feelings, it was more on how he was disappointed someone from the site had the capacity to be so mean, like he was having his very first "This is why I can't put people on a pedestal" moment. What a way to learn your idols are fallible, amirite.
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Out of curiosity, is that post still online? I'd like to check it out.

I got to talk to Brad's ex Jillian a year or so ago and, yeah, she and Brad REALLY don't like Kyle. She basically said a lot of the things I've read here, and that he's really full of himself. With Brad, the Snob is just a character. Kyle, on the other hand, really is as big of a pretentious douche as he is in his videos.
 
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