Containment Idea Guy / Joshua Wise (Manipulating the intellecutally disabled for fun) Megathread

[NinFreakLan]

In a way Rosechu is now trolling Chris.

It's magically delicious!

 

[Pony Horn]

Possibly - and it's as hell - some very clever and persistent troll came at him initially with a suitably flattering 'oh wow - you're psychic? Hey, me too' approach, built on that gradually, went via 'I've visited CWCville as well', to 'hey - guess what Rosechu said to me when I bumped into her...'

It would take some real perseverance and slyness, but someone claiming to be passing on Rosechu's words, rather than being Rosechu herself, at least seems plausible to me.

Seeing the referential way Chris talks to the Tao of Maud . they'd be able to pull it off.

Seeing how many ToM tweets Chris likes, he must have followed them first and is totally into it. All ToM would have to do to begin a dialog with Chris is PM him and thank him for following their twitter account. When he responds, you're already communicating with Chris on what he thinks is his terms and he thinks you have some kind of deep knowledge. There's a couple different ways you can take it from there.

Not that I'm saying it's ToM. Who knows what sort of nonsense he's Google-ing and reading. He got the "soy (sauce) gives a man beautiful breasts" idea from some stupid website (google "vegetarian bodybuilders" for disproof of that theory). That binaural beats nonsense must have been first recommended to him due to his web searches, if not directly discovered while reading something. Who knows what the hell else he's reading?

I really like some of @New age retro hippie 's points. When Chris reads a well done story with his characters he gets involved in it. How he views it exactly is open to debate but I can see him asking Rosechu if she has a duck. Since he's open enough to the idea to ask the question, the answer being "yes" is a possibility.

But we're all guessing and who the hell knows who, if anyone, is right?

tl;dr some shitpost guesses about what's going on and some admiration for @New age retro hippie

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

ToM is a highly plausible suspect if you ask me - even if he or she's only decided to screw with Chris recently. A supposedly wise and psychic MLP fan who spews mystical claptrap online - perfect type to mess the poor dear around with impunity once they'd realised he was on the hook. Not saying it is ToM, but the profile is almost too perfect for a troll with an in to doing a spiritual number on Chris, Rosechu and CWCville.

 

[Sammy]

He is copying Rosechu's story to the tee with added 'tism and toddler art. This is, by far, the laziest move OPL could make.

Its really not anything new. He did the same thing 10 years ago with some 3D cartoons (which have sadly been lost to time on the internet) someone named Timmys1984 made - he even advertised how he was going to correct them to be what REALLY happened, redrew them with TRUE and HONEST artwork, and then DEMANDED afterwards that Timmys1984 go back and make his suggested changes to Timmys1984 cartoon.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

ToM is a highly plausible suspect if you ask me - even if he or she's only decided to screw with Chris recently. A supposedly wise and psychic MLP fan who spews mystical claptrap online - perfect type to mess the poor dear around with impunity once they'd realised he was on the hook. Not saying it is ToM, but the profile is almost too perfect for a troll with an in to doing a spiritual number on Chris, Rosechu and CWCville.

They're all spergs, so naturally, they're going to be targeted for trolls to imitate to get closer to Chris. I doubt Tau is a troll or a ween.

 

[UptownRuckus]

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Okay, who’s Ready to have their minds Totally, Royally F***ed Up? Rosey, our Prime Rosechu, Sweetheart of Sonichu...

Was born, as a Pichu, MALE. The D***ed Trolls were correct. Up until around the 4Cent Garbage Adventure, Rosey did have, not a vagina, but a penis. She had the Operation to become Fully Woman, and give birth to Christine, Roberta and Cera. I felt Super Mortified and Beyond Shocked when she came out to me as a Transwoman, herself. Since when I created her after Sonichu, around 2000, I had created her to be a Female-Only Pokemon, like a Kangaskhan. But, apparently, even though I am Creator, apparently, I am not a total Goddess over my own city and creations.

So, I will now put this to Everyone Online, for their responses: Do You Like It That For Once, The Trolls WERE Right, or would you rather I revert back to telling everyone, in book 15, that our Miss Rosey Rosechu was always Female?

SHE wanted me to come forward with her Truth on her behalf. As much as it really hurts me deep. I Really feel like I should be reeled into my Poke Ball and stored in the PC a while. I accept My Rose, My Rose, as having been born Male.

That Is All.

I must go and bleach my life now...Thanks Chris

 

[Done]

Kinda late to the discussion, and while I usually agree with @Marvin ’s opinions, this time I think it’s wrong to assume there’s a troll playing Rosechu behind his back, and I think all this (well... Twitter pool aside, probably) is basically Chris trolling himself.

Chris always saw his comic as masterpieces, true, but masterpieces that could be improved and made more lifelike, he hoped trough a video game or a tv series.
Then he saw "Rosechu story", and it was just like everything he always dreamed of: it’s professionally drawn, the characters motivations are well established, there’s drama, there’s action... it was just like the cartoons he loved so much, but with his own characters, even better!

So he probably took it as “canon”.
Now, bear in mind, like we saw during the Asperchu saga, to him every comic instance of Sonichu & Co. in comic form are actually his characters, either living adventures he didn’t know about or being impersonated by lookalikes (just like Sonic In Sonichu is actually Silvana disguised).
I think he took "Rosechu story" as the first instance: still his story, but with some more details.

Only afterwards he realized @Trickie 's changes to the plot, like Rosechu being male (and thus having a penis) before she transformed. Realizing this, Chris decided to do the most rational thing to do: ask Rosechu directly!

Now, no troll is needed for this since Chris thinks he can actually talk with his creatures (Mary Lee Walsh said he started talking with them when she punished him one time) and so he did.
The real strange thing is that, when confornted with ths information, the Rosechu inside Chris' mind (maybe because it mirrors his own feel of being a female born with the wrong anatomy) actually responded that it was true, and that she had a penis.
Chris, being Chris, was obviously destroyed by this information and, in his usual passive agressive way, asked the public if they prefer to hurt him (admitting Rosechu's trans status) or Rosechu (deleting her past history and making her a girl from the start).
The fact that he cancelled everything after the option that would hurt him most won just underlines how much of a dick he can be, even towards his own creatures, that he thinks are alive.

TLR: Chris wasn't fed this by a troll IMHO, but was punished by following the super autistic rules he himself set on how to deal with his Roger Rabbit like alterante cartoon world.

Kinda late to the discussion, and while I usually agree with @Marvin ’s opinions, this time I think it’s wrong to assume there’s a troll playing Rosechu behind his back, and I think all this (well... Twitter pool aside, probably) is basically Chris trolling himself.

Chris always saw his comic as masterpieces, true, but masterpieces that could be improved and made more lifelike, he hoped trough a video game or a tv series.
Then he saw "Rosechu story", and it was just like everything he always dreamed of: it’s professionally drawn, the characters motivations are well established, there’s drama, there’s action... it was just like the cartoons he loved so much, but with his own characters, even better!

So he probably took it as “canon”.
Now, bear in mind, like we saw during the Asperchu saga, to him every comic instance of Sonichu & Co. in comic form are actually his characters, either living adventures he didn’t know about or being impersonated by lookalikes (just like Sonic In Sonichu is actually Silvana disguised).
I think he took "Rosechu story" as the first instance: still his story, but with some more details.

Only afterwards he realized @Trickie 's changes to the plot, like Rosechu being male (and thus having a penis) before she transformed. Realizing this, Chris decided to do the most rational thing to do: ask Rosechu directly!

Now, no troll is needed for this since Chris thinks he can actually talk with his creatures (Mary Lee Walsh said he started talking with them when she punished him one time) and so he did.
The real strange thing is that, when confornted with ths information, the Rosechu inside Chris' mind (maybe because it mirrors his own feel of being a female born with the wrong anatomy) actually responded that it was true, and that she had a penis.
Chris, being Chris, was obviously destroyed by this information and, in his usual passive agressive way, asked the public if they prefer to hurt him (admitting Rosechu's trans status) or Rosechu (deleting her past history and making her a girl from the start).
The fact that he cancelled everything after the option that would hurt him most won just underlines how much of a dick he can be, even towards his own creatures, that he thinks are alive.

TLR: Chris wasn't fed this by a troll IMHO, but was punished by following the super autistic rules he himself set on how to deal with his Roger Rabbit like alterante cartoon world.

The thing that proves this post wrong is that Chris frequently engages in magical thinking, which by definition always favors the user's POV.

Chris went to literal war with ED about this, which was probably the true spark behind organized trolling, he wouldn't have done it without a very clear and indisputable idea of what gender he "created" Rosechu to be. So there is no way he will ever imagine Rosechu telling him she is trans. Magical thinking doesn't work that way.

You can also see signs of him being very, very pissed off about this 'revelation', because it represents a huge loss in his conflict against the trolls given the history I have just mentioned.

So no, Chris is being trolled by a human. And it's not the Tao of Maud either, that is clearly a very separate project.

One thing I wonder when all is said and done in this troll saga is this: Will Chris abandon the dream hugbox he created after this invasion a la Simonla? Or will he go deeper into it?

 

[Pony Horn]

ToM is a highly plausible suspect if you ask me - even if he or she's only decided to screw with Chris recently. A supposedly wise and psychic MLP fan who spews mystical claptrap online - perfect type to mess the poor dear around with impunity once they'd realised he was on the hook. Not saying it is ToM, but the profile is almost too perfect for a troll with an in to doing a spiritual number on Chris, Rosechu and CWCville.

Yeah, they tick off every box. They're even discontinuing their updates at the end of the year so they have nothing to lose.

They're all spergs, so naturally, they're going to be targeted for trolls to imitate to get closer to Chris. I doubt Tau is a troll or a ween.

I don't think Toa of Maud is a troll or a ween either but it could be a crime of opportunity (for whoever's doing it). I brought them up because they're in a perfect situation to make believe they can channel Chris, and through Chris, channel CWCville. So they're more of an example of the type of troll that could be doing it than anything else.

Chris has deleted all tweets about this, including the poll results which showed the audience wants Rosechu to be trans.

And didn't delete his poll for chief of police or the concentration camp and related stuff.

 

[Ballzymaker94]

Yeah, they tick off every box. They're even discontinuing their updates at the end of the year so they have nothing to lose.
I don't think Toa of Maud is a troll or a ween either but it could be a crime of opportunity (for whoever's doing it). I brought them up because they're in a perfect situation to make believe they can channel Chris, and through Chris, channel CWCville. So they're more of an example of the type of troll that could be doing it than anything else.
And didn't delete his poll for chief of police or the concentration camp and related stuff.

I'm gonna try to say this without sounding A-log, but...

Progressive my ass!

 

[UncleFezziesPantsPuppet]

Chris’s drawings talking to him will never get old.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

One thing I wonder when all is said and done in this troll saga is this: Will Chris abandon the dream hugbox he created after this invasion a la Simonla? Or will he go deeper into it?

He'll probably drop it to favor a new obsession- I mean "dimension". I'm still waiting for the Star vs The Forces of Evil crossover.

 

[Male Idiot]

Well this is unexpected but still hilarious. Especially the D***d trolls being right part!

 

[Done]

He'll probably drop it to favor a new obsession- I mean "dimension". I'm still waiting for the Star vs The Forces of Evil crossover.

I think nothing will top his reverence of his own creations, remember that the 1st piece of Sonichu artwork depicted the title character calling Chris his father. But time will tell I guess.

 

[Echo_Ender]

No, someone is actually talking to him. He's like one of the dipshits who talk to telephone psychics and think their grandma is talking through them.

Everything makes so much sense now. Wow.

We knew two big things before:
A) Chris believes in pseudoscience/mysticism/psychic stuff. Biurnal Beats, psychically moving paper, ect.
B) Chris 100% believes his characters are real and exist in an alternate dimension.

Some gloriously insane, rogue troll put those together and became a "Psychic Medium" for the cwcvile characters. And Chris bought it.

It explains 'Count Graduon' giving Chris that Fine 'Ol Solution packed with WWII references Chris could never get. And since he believes this, he's now forced to believe that Rosechu was always secretly trans and lying to him.

There are some deep and bizarre meta-plots coming out of this...

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

Yeah, they tick off every box. They're even discontinuing their updates at the end of the year so they have nothing to lose.
I don't think Toa of Maud is a troll or a ween either but it could be a crime of opportunity (for whoever's doing it). I brought them up because they're in a perfect situation to make believe they can channel Chris, and through Chris, channel CWCville. So they're more of an example of the type of troll that could be doing it than anything else.
And didn't delete his poll for chief of police or the concentration camp and related stuff.

Maybe its my personal bias since I've actually talked to the guy behind ToM and they don't strike me as someone who would mess with Chris least not like that? Again who knows MAYBE ToM is having tea parties with Tojo and Hitler, but from what I've seen I cant think it them. Though I do agree they have everything Chris looks for when it comes for this shit. Guess I gotta wait and see.

Everything makes so much sense now. Wow.

We knew two big things before:
A) Chris believes in pseudoscience/mysticism/psychic stuff. Biurnal Beats, psychically moving paper, ect.
B) Chris 100% believes his characters are real and exist in an alternate dimension.

Some gloriously insane, rogue troll put those together and became a "Psychic Medium" for the cwcvile characters. And Chris bought it.

It explains 'Count Graduon' giving Chris that Fine 'Ol Solution packed with WWII references Chris could never get. And since he believes this, he's now forced to believe that Rosechu was always secretly trans and lying to him.

There are some deep and bizarre meta-plots coming out of this...

I vote to call this Mystery person "Psycho Mantis" just to keep the dead joke of MGS and Chris going.

 

[Pony Horn]

Maybe its my personal bias since I've actually talked to the guy behind ToM and they don't strike me as someone who would mess with Chris least not like that? Again who knows MAYBE ToM is having tea parties with Tojo and Hitler, but from what I've seen I cant think it them. Though I do agree they have everything Chris looks for when it comes for this shit. Guess I gotta wait and see.

I'd be as surprised as you are if it was him. It's just funny how sometimes you can make something fit.

More likely it's someone nobody knows or relates to Chris.

One thing I wonder when all is said and done in this troll saga is this: Will Chris abandon the dream hugbox he created after this invasion a la Simonla? Or will he go deeper into it?

I'm curious about this myself. Is his Sonichu fantasy world going to become less and less important to him until he grows out of it? Will he just graduate from this one to a more mature. and possibly more sociable, fantasy world? I've been thinking his tranny fetish might fit that bill, if you can call wearing women's clothes and putting soy sauce on all your food "more mature".

Or is he going to spend the rest of his life living like a disabled boy who daydreams that he's the greatest and most loved ballplayer ever, spending his days playing and replaying in his head the fantasy where he hits another pennant clinching home run or makes a clutch play to win the world series?

I thought his recent polls might be a small step in the direction of maturity, what with him loosening his grip on the structure of his imaginary world. But the fact that he deleted the Rosechu poll and 2 of 3(?) polls altogether doesn't bode well for him.

 

[Professor Iris]

Called it.

 

[MY 405]

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I dunno, which answer would make him crazier? This is a Possibility goldmine.

 

[Done]

I thought his recent polls might be a small step in the direction of maturity, what with him loosening his grip on the structure of his imaginary world. But the fact that he deleted the Rosechu poll and 2 of 3(?) polls altogether doesn't bode well for him.

I didn't read it like that, I think that those polls represented his struggle between 2 hard alternatives:

1. If he chooses to oblige Rosechu's demand to be known as trans, it would mean that his characters are actively rebelling against his wishes (and worse, going with what the trolls did to him), this means that the hugbox is losing its value as an escape fantasy of that magical place, because no one wants an escape fantasy they can't completely control, it's in the definition really.
2. If he chooses to ignore Rosechu's wish and keep her as a female, then he acknowledges that those characters aren't real in the 1st place, and that the bubble he created for himself is popped into oblivion. This could cause a 2nd crash into slumber, at a time when his personal investment in CWCville has an explicit and urgently needed financial value.

The fact that this is even a struggle for him tells you that Chris isn't maturing here at all!

It's quite the opposite really, you see, the fact that Chris was even convinced that Rosechu was speaking to him in the 1st place tells you less about his gullibility, and more about his growing need to believe in the fantasy he created for himself.

 

[MY 405]

Firstly, I thought Silvana was already trans and got “magicked” into a chick, and yeah, I’m with whoever said Robbee got girliefied simply by listening to a copy-protected CD. Chris-Chan Sonichu just turned girl one day (now with working “ovium”!) and knocked him/herself up! THE female lead of CWCCrazy Town undergoes extensive surgery instead?! Also, I don’t think he has a clue how a uterus actually functions. And can someone confirm that Clyde Cash (or whoever was running the 4-cent garbage building) got a faceful of dick from the Amazing Lioness — because THAT truly would be amazing!