Plagued Gun Spergers

An assault weapon has a 100 round ghost gun clip holding "Delayed Abortion" baby seeking ammo.
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Not sure if I should be ashamed or proud that one of my numerically pedantic posts is in the OP. I'll just sum it up as my logic being goofy due to :autism:.
 
odius said:
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r4ndom said:
to be fair there was a whole thing about it being incredibly easy to get guns in neighboring states which really doesn't help.
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Can verify, all the states around Illinois have lax gun laws (except maybe Michigan?) and it’s pretty easy to get guns illegally in the Midwest.
Reynard said:
Regardless, you aren't wrong when you say that a weeb with a sword he has no idea how to use is far less dangerous, and is actually funny.
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Imagine someone holding up a bank with a katana.
 
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scared sheep said:
Can verify, all the states around Illinois have lax gun laws (except maybe Michigan?) and it’s pretty easy to get guns illegally in the Midwest.
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I'd say there's a lot more to it than just neighboring states that contributes to the illegal arms trade. Remember that criminals won't try to get guns legally in any state because those guns are tracked. You're more likely to get better stuff with full-auto if you went to the illegal arms trade, too. Legal full-auto weapons are ridiculously hard to get (for good reason) and are tracked like an overbearing Japanese parent making sure their kid is always studying. Even the most minor blemish on your record can stop you from getting them legally.

What would make getting illegal guns easier in the Midwest than other parts of the nation, though? This part genuinely confused me.
 
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Reynard said:
What would make getting illegal guns easier in the Midwest than other parts of the nation, though? This part genuinely confused me.
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Because they’re so easy to get legally. Think of it like this:
An old man has a handgun he used to shoot. He has a liscence. He bought the gun legally. But he’s old now, and his grandson is into guns. So he just gives it to his grandson. Nothing official. His grandson then sells it to a shady pawn shop. Some asshole without a liscence buys it. The asshole now has a gun, illegally. Stuff like that.
I’m not taking one side or the other on this, just pointing out how easy it can be. I mean, people in Missouri go to Illinois to liscence their vehicle illegally, simply because it’s cheaper. Heck, even the St. Louis cops do it. When looking at a state, one also needs to consider how the bordering states effect it.
 
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I'd like to sperg how fucked up it is how your police treats things that are completely legal to have, and even kids use.

Philando Castiel had a legal gun, informs the officer pulling him over of that fact so cop doesn't get startled, cop gets startled and shoots him.

Daniel Shaver is suspected of having a gun (he didn't, but still even if he had they're fucking legal), and within two seconds of him meeting police in a corridor of a hotel he gets threatened with death if he doesn't complete a game of "Simon Says for experts" correctly. Sure, he shouldn't have gone pull up his pants after the game was almost done, so I can't blame the officer who shot, but the Sergeant who was giving the Simon Says orders: Is that how you treat someone who in all likelyhood is a law-abiding citizen?

Like, I know it's only two deaths on the millions of Americans who walk around armed, but I'd be pretty fucking pissed if that's an acceptable way to treat normal citizens.

I won't comment on the larger debate whether the US should have guns (I honestly don't care, I don't live there anyway), but seriously: If things are legal train your cops to deal with law abiding citizens having them FFS.
 
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scared sheep said:
Because they’re so easy to get legally. Think of it like this:
An old man has a handgun he used to shoot. He has a liscence. He bought the gun legally. But he’s old now, and his grandson is into guns. So he just gives it to his grandson. Nothing official. His grandson then sells it to a shady pawn shop. Some asshole without a liscence buys it. The asshole now has a gun, illegally. Stuff like that.
I’m not taking one side or the other on this, just pointing out how easy it can be. I mean, people in Missouri go to Illinois to liscence their vehicle illegally, simply because it’s cheaper. Heck, even the St. Louis cops do it. When looking at a state, one also needs to consider how the bordering states effect it.
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But buying a gun from a pawn shop isn't illegal, so how is the gun illegal? I'm legit confused by that part. I mean, pawn shops are shady, no questioning that, but if anything I'm not sure how a gun bought legally at a shop is now suddenly illegal. If the dude doesn't have a license, then it's the pawn shop's fault. Though to be honest, if you buy or sell guns at a pawn shop instead of a place that specializes in firearms, you're already shady as fuck. lol
 
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But buying a gun from a pawn shop isn't illegal, so how is the gun illegal? I'm legit confused by that part. I mean, pawn shops are shady, no questioning that, but if anything I'm not sure how a gun bought legally at a shop is now suddenly illegal. If the dude doesn't have a license, then it's the pawn shop's fault. Though to be honest, if you buy or sell guns at a pawn shop instead of a place that specializes in firearms, you're already shady as fuck. lol
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Well yeah, the pawn shop is doing illegal shit too. But that’s my point. The more guns produced, the more guns are passed around.
 
scared sheep said:
Well yeah, the pawn shop is doing illegal shit too. But that’s my point. The more guns produced, the more guns are passed around.
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Most of them are tracked, though. And that's my point. And if they aren't, the government has every right to prosecute the offending party.
If anything, what would stop these mass shootings more would be things like mental health checks, maybe more in-depth background checks, that sort of stuff. I don't think banning guns to people who like to competitively or casually go to the range would stop the others from finding an underground arms dealer if they're so inclined to go on a rampage.
 
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Reynard said:
Most of them are tracked, though. And that's my point. And if they aren't, the government has every right to prosecute the offending party.
If anything, what would stop these mass shootings more would be things like mental health checks, maybe more in-depth background checks, that sort of stuff. I don't think banning guns to people who like to competitively or casually go to the range would stop the others from finding an underground arms dealer if they're so inclined to go on a rampage.
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I’m not disagreeing with that. I like going to the gun range myself with the family from time to time. What I’m saying is if a state has more lax laws, it effects bordering states too. Ya feel?
 
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r4ndom said:
to be fair there was a whole thing about it being incredibly easy to get guns in neighboring states which really doesn't help.
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If the avaiablity of guns were the driving factor behind violence, as these advocates claim, then wouldn't you naturally expect the areas with the lax gun laws to have an equal if not increased crime rate?

I'm well aware my home state of Virginia is a haven for straw buyers but our crime is a fraction of neighboring Murderland with far stricter gun laws.
 
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I'm well aware my home state of Virginia is a haven for straw buyers but our crime is a fraction of neighboring Murderland with far stricter gun laws.
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if there are more people in a close proximity, like in a city, plenty of different social and economic issues occur that would result in a rising crime rate. the availability of guns does not help slow down rising crime rates either, and it lowers the barrier to entry in crime too.
 
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I only own guns to defend my guns from getting confiscated by Obama and that tranny, Hillary Clinton.
 
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