Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

Ponderous Pillock said:
Well look at it this way. I am on a nice hill in an area with moderate rainfall (for the UK) with good drainage in the ground for the water table.

My home's foundations are three feet thick at one end, going to six feet at the other to create a level base. (I'm on a slight hill). This give a nice, stable base for my home to be built on. This is also in a place with proper top soil, and other "grounding" which means the ground doesn't wash away in the rain.

La Zorra's current container is just dumped straight onto sand. There's a biblical story which tells you not to build your home straight onto the sand and it ain't no parable.

There's not much in the way of rainfall, but the fact there's creosote bushes there tells you there's some moisture about. A big hefty container like that on a sandy base with no support is probably going to shift slowly at first, but is likely to "go" quite badly if there's a rainfall. It will either sink into the sand, or move down the hill like the sailing stones in Death Valley.

The main problem will be weight, wherever the weight is is where the sinking is likely to occur. So a bunch of troons sleeping one side or another or at one end or another is going to shift the weight.
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While I love the visual of the container sinking into the sand, it's not going to happen that way. I had a shipping container delivered to my house and we just picked a relatively level spot in the yard next to the $20k greenhouse for orchids and dumped it.

Now, what WILL probably happen, is that sand EROSION will happen from the wind. That area hasn't been packed like the area around my old house. And the wind and any rain will cause the loose topsoil to filter away. This will make the container list one way or another.

To fix this, they will have to move the container to a properly graded area that's at least a little more even and without all the loose sand, and preferably to at the minimum a short concrete block foundation or one built from railroad ties. It's one thing to dump something in the desert for storage. It's another thing to live in it. As they have started it, they won't ever be able to plumb it properly - not to hang a picture properly and not to get water inside.
 
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keksz said:
To be honest, someone just mentioned it previously in the thread and the image stuck to my head. I am completely autistic and have zero knowledge of construction but I'm sure someone here can explain all the steps necessary for founding the structure that obviously the troons aren't careful enough to follow through or even consider, in all likelihood, since they're treating the project as "we go there, we put stuff on the ground and suddenly we're selling weed and become troon disneyland".
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It depends how deep the sand goes down before there's rock (and what kind of rock it is). I seriously doubt these idiot troons have even checked. If it's not much, you can dig down to where the rock is and just pour concrete to provide a solid foundation. If it's a long way down, though, you might have to pour pilings to put the foundation on, somewhat like how you build a bridge.

The first is probably simple enough for any competent contractor, but the second could be a difficult and expensive engineering problem.
 
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Well thru some digging I found some other places that TLL operates. From there I found that someone was looking for charity rating for TLL.
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And look at this their not rated at all.
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https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=472097494
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and thru that we have a number from 2015. (I think).
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Something doesn't add up here.
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Thats two years now and still no 990-EZs (tax forms for non profits). If I didn't know any better its like they are hiding something.
 
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It's no secret that the troons of the TTL board funnel a large amount of the donations into their own pockets.

Kjel is a prime example; everything he does is taken from TTL funds. He writes off the lamest shit and the TTL board rubber stamps it cause they're doing the same shit.

Hopefully all the reports to the IRS will get some attiontion cause these Troon fools aren't even trying to cover their tracks. Writing off Parjeets lawyer as TTL consultion...good luck with that.

Losing their tax free will be the least of the Ogre's worries. He could be looking at 100k in back taxes and fine.

The IRS took down The mafia dons...Shrekhead doesn't stand a chance
 
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At the start of this thread, I would not have believed that a MTF Jonestown would be the logical conclusion.

If there's interest, I can draft up an informal feasibility report on how much funds & resources would be required to actually have a sustainable compound infrastructure. There's a particular arts festival that happens in a dried up lake bed in Nevada that I've participated in 3 times, so I'm not unfamiliar with the work that goes into off-grid survival is such environments. It'd be mildly amusing to see how badly they fuck up what is and has been a solved problem.

Also, I kind of skimmed the last third of the thread, so apologies if this hasn't been mentioned previously: Are we relying on Greta/Nina for updates on the immigration case, or are those accessible via public database?

The general flow for such cases is the case slogs through Immigration Court until a decision is made. This decision may be appealed by either USCIS or the plaintiff, at which point the case goes before the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA). The BIA may either affirm or go against the court's decision, which may result in the case being re-opened on the Immigration Court Level. If the BIA makes a final decision in USCIS' favour, the plaintiff may appeal with the Circuit Court of Appeals (this is where getting the case moved to CA would be beneficial, as the 9th Circuit is notoriously lax). I know that *AT THAT POINT* (and trust me that could be years down the road), anyone with access to PACER can view the circuit court records. Not sure about access to Immigration Court/BIA records, though. Possibly through FOIA, though I'm really not sure.
 
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Chaton_Mort said:
If there's interest, I can draft up an informal feasibility report on how much funds & resources would be required to actually have a sustainable compound infrastructure. There's a particular arts festival that happens in a dried up lake bed in Nevada that I've participated in 3 times, so I'm not unfamiliar with the work that goes into off-grid survival is such environments.
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There's a similar event not far from the proposed location of Troontown in the Mojave Desert called Wasteland Weekend, also in a dry lake bed, based on Mad Max apocalypse scenarios. So it's definitely possible, with enough effort, to do things even in a complete wasteland area like that.

These just aren't the troons to do it.
 
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Chaton_Mort said:
At the start of this thread, I would not have believed that a FTM Jonestown would be the logical conclusion.

If there's interest, I can draft up an informal feasibility report on how much funds & resources would be required to actually have a sustainable compound infrastructure. There's a particular arts festival that happens in a dried up lake bed in Nevada that I've participated in 3 times, so I'm not unfamiliar with the work that goes into off-grid survival is such environments. It'd be mildly amusing to see how badly they fuck up what is and has been a solved problem.
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I'd be interested. I calculated the energy requirements of Wu's moon rocks for his thread, so yours won't be the gayest tranny effort post.
 
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Chaton_Mort said:
At the start of this thread, I would not have believed that a MTF Jonestown would be the logical conclusion.

If there's interest, I can draft up an informal feasibility report on how much funds & resources would be required to actually have a sustainable compound infrastructure. There's a particular arts festival that happens in a dried up lake bed in Nevada that I've participated in 3 times, so I'm not unfamiliar with the work that goes into off-grid survival is such environments. It'd be mildly amusing to see how badly they fuck up what is and has been a solved problem.
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I'm curious, but I think any kind of assessment should keep in mind that they're not aiming to be fully self-sufficient, only "economically self-sustaining".

The nonsense about potentially housing 1000 people in a "crisis" scenario is just that - nonsense. It's pretty clear that their short-term priority is to provide a refuge for themselves and their friends, so you're probably looking at infrastructure for not more than a dozen people.
 
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repentance said:
I'm curious, but I think any kind of assessment should keep in mind that they're not aiming to be fully self-sufficient, only "economically self-sustaining".

The nonsense about potentially housing 1000 people in a "crisis" scenario is just that - nonsense.
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To do that, they'd really need to have a) a reliable source of water and b) some kind of fairly high tech hydroponic growing operation for water efficiency and c) pray that Jeff Sessions doesn't go apeshit and rampage all over California's weed growers like he's threatening to do, partly because he's a brain-dead drug warrior and partly because the Drumpfinator wants revenge on California for this sanctuary city bullshit.
 
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To do that, they'd really need to have a) a reliable source of water and b) some kind of fairly high tech hydroponic growing operation for water efficiency and c) pray that Jeff Sessions doesn't go apeshit and rampage all over California's weed growers like he's threatening to do, partly because he's a brain-dead drug warrior and partly because the Drumpfinator wants revenge on California for this sanctuary city bullshit.
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Oh they definitely haven't made any contingency plans. I took a quick look at the regulatory framework for growers and even though it's designed to ensure that there will always be small scale growers, that doesn't guarantee they will even be granted a licence (there are "diversity" provisions in the framework). Even if they are, there are some pretty burdensome compliance requirements.

If they don't have a Plan B which doesn't depend on growing weed, they're screwed.
 
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keksz said:
Can you elaborate on that, even if only a little? I mean, you did say you went through the papers.
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Small scale growers will still be expected to comply with both state and county standards, which dictate how weed can be grown and how it must be tested.

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http://www.thecannabist.co/2017/09/26/california-marijuana-pesticides-rules/88680/

Then there is the whole tax compliance thing. In addition to state taxes, individual counties have their own rules. It's potentially a clusterfuck because while state taxes are assessed by weight, some counties are taxing per square foot of cultivation area (making you liable for tax even if the crop fails).

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http://cannabusinesslaw.com/2017/10/state-cannabis-taxes-begin-january-1-2018/

Currently, only one city (Adelanto) within San Bernadino county has developed clear local regulations.

http://cannabusinesslaw.com/califor...ounty/san-bernardino-county/city-of-adelanto/

http://cannabusinesslaw.com/california-cannabis-laws-by-county/san-bernardino-county/

Basically, even if they can obtain a state licence (possible, because Cali intentionally set things up to allow for lots of small scale licences), they still need county (and perhaps city) authority to commercially grow weed and that's only the beginning of having to comply with multiple levels of government requirements.
 
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repentance said:
Basically, even if they can obtain a state licence (possible, because Cali intentionally set things up to allow for lots of small scale licences), they still need county (and perhaps city) authority to commercially grow weed and that's only the beginning of having to comply with multiple levels of government requirements.
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Considering the disregard these criminal troons have shown for other U.S. laws, I think it's pretty likely they utterly fuck it up and do exactly that, i.e. dump it on the illegal market. Assuming it doesn't fail entirely, which is much more likely. In that event, they'd probably end up prosecuted by the state and by the feds.

And Pajeet would get an expedited trip back to the designated shitting street.
 
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