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There's a fence in one of the photos. Why are they doing work near the boundary of their property? Is it because whoever dropped off the machinery wouldn't risk going further in?
Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.
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So when the hole gets filled, they can just throw the shit over the fence.
Truly, this is Shithole Country.
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As someone who has never had to deal with an actual outhouse .... what are you suppose to do with the shit hole once it gets full?
Because I feel like troon town is just going to cover it with dirt and dig another hole. So if that’s not what you’re suppose to do.....
Because I feel like troon town is just going to cover it with dirt and dig another hole. So if that’s not what you’re suppose to do.....
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Shit that lack of updates for a while had me worried they were already stuck inside the container. The show must go on!
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Has anyone seen any signs of them fundraising specifically for this yet? We should probably keep a constant watch on all the crowdfunding platforms.
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Sandstorms are frequent in the area. The highway running near them will frequently be shut down for high winds/sandstorms throughout the year. I would say at LEAST once every two months, but frequently more. That doesn't take into account the little sandstorms that are normal occurrences, sometimes on a daily basis. That's the downside to being out in the middle of nowhere in that area. March, April and May will be HELL. HELL, I say!
You dig up the shit and dispose of it is what you do. Unless you were smart enough to put in a filtration system involving gravel and peatmoss where you easily take up the top layer of peat once a month or two... Which I'm sure they didn't... Probably because of the caliche (clay) layer that they would have had to take a pick-axe to...
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Sure would be a shame if they've dug their pit toilet near the only place on the property where it's viable to sink a bore.
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Well, when you dig it you tie a rope to the bottom of the pit, and tie the other end to the underside of the outhouse building you placed over the pit. Then, when the pit is full, the rope has become the "wick" of a giant candle, which you burn for all-natural light and heat.
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Really? I've always wondered about that. If you're just going to dig it up later, why shit in a hole? Why not just have a porta potty (or something comparable)?
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Once they get the actual town part of Troontown running, I'm sure there will be at least one "street" there which will be designated for that purpose. Alternatively they could designate the road that leads to the military base/bombing range.
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You have to clean the portashitters almost daily. You only have to clean the outhouse every couple of months. The only other option is the daily burn.
I'd suggest someone recommend a Pig Shitter but troons are incapable of taking care of anything that isn't themselves* (just ask John "Brianna" Wu about his frozen dog) so I don't want to give these troons even the opportunity to put animals that can't properly sweat into death valley heat.
*And they don't even do a very good job at that.
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I wonder how long it will be before the first venomous critters take up residence in the outhouse.
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I thought Greta and Nina were already there?
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The best thing they could have done, at least in the short-to-mid-term, is create a shantytown of RV's and campers, all either using their own built-in generators or a massive generator and a spider box connecting them. Those have their own plumbing systems that can be purged by taking the RV/camper to a facility offering those services. The lack of a septic tank onsite is troubling.
The theory that they're digging an outhouse because the property is out of service range for any septic company makes me wonder if they can get water tanks delivered & subsequently refilled via water truck. If they can't, they're well and truly fucked. I'm working on the assumption that they can't bleed enough water out of the soil to sustain human life (let alone a grow operation. Do they know how resource-hungry grow operations are??), which I think is a fair assumption, because if there was water on the property, it probably would have already been sold, or at least would have been on sale for more than what they paid.
Ideally, they need 2 water tanks and 1 water pump: one tank full of potable water (with the pump), one for grey water collection. There's other ways to deal with grey water, like evaporation ponds, but they don't work great and frankly they could be a health hazard.
I haven't seen any sort of shade structure in the photos posted. This is madness. If you're working in the desert, you need a shady spot to take breaks or you're in for a very bad time.
I am very interested in how they solve the water and power issues.
The theory that they're digging an outhouse because the property is out of service range for any septic company makes me wonder if they can get water tanks delivered & subsequently refilled via water truck. If they can't, they're well and truly fucked. I'm working on the assumption that they can't bleed enough water out of the soil to sustain human life (let alone a grow operation. Do they know how resource-hungry grow operations are??), which I think is a fair assumption, because if there was water on the property, it probably would have already been sold, or at least would have been on sale for more than what they paid.
Ideally, they need 2 water tanks and 1 water pump: one tank full of potable water (with the pump), one for grey water collection. There's other ways to deal with grey water, like evaporation ponds, but they don't work great and frankly they could be a health hazard.
I haven't seen any sort of shade structure in the photos posted. This is madness. If you're working in the desert, you need a shady spot to take breaks or you're in for a very bad time.
I am very interested in how they solve the water and power issues.
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Because these indivuals are always doing things half assed.... I feel like they’ll be fine with whatever shithole they have right now. They won’t stay there long enough to fill it.
This place will not sustain people for months ... there’s no water, no shade, no shelter, and the only food has to be bought the next town over. And I’m assuming the only internet they have is a hotspot from a phone.
Even the most basic of troons needs ac, Internet, a fridge full of food and snacks, and they definitely don’t want critters running around.
Can you imagine the first time some city troon sees a rat or snake?? They’ll freak.
I honestly can’t wait for the drama.
This place will not sustain people for months ... there’s no water, no shade, no shelter, and the only food has to be bought the next town over. And I’m assuming the only internet they have is a hotspot from a phone.
Even the most basic of troons needs ac, Internet, a fridge full of food and snacks, and they definitely don’t want critters running around.
Can you imagine the first time some city troon sees a rat or snake?? They’ll freak.
I honestly can’t wait for the drama.
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This sounds like a hilarious reality show idea. Somebody call Mark Burnett!
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They're probably not.
Right now I suspect Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb-fuck are living out of the RV and actually just going to the next town over for all their supplies as opposed to actually living on-site. And this was always the plan - the container residence was just for anybody else who showed up.
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Yeah, about that. I'm too lazy (or busy with work, take your pick) to slog through the thread and find the page(s) this was discussed, but weren't they brainstorming about how to make the container lockable but only from the inside? And by "brainstorming" I mean "coming up with truly exceptional solutions, rather than just installing a damn door?"
They're going to have to mod the exterior to make room for an air conditioner, because otherwise it will literally be an oven. As someone previously mentioned, keeping it open a crack for air ventilation means the dust-like sand will permeate everything. Unless they're going Amish, this is a problem because playa dust is both conductive and corrosive and will fuck up electronics, to say nothing of it just making for unpleasant living conditions.
...Y'know, if I told someone that extremists are building a work camp for nonconforming-gendered-individuals in the desert with a walk-in oven, the only natural reaction would be, "That's so fucked up. Where is this happening, Uganda?"
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I have a feeling they may have sold the RV or they were only leasing it and the lease has ended. The early pictures show cars but no RV and also show them in a tent.
As mentioned, living in the RV until water, sewerage and shelter were established on the site would have made the most sense and would have been the most comfortable. There's no way they'd be roughing it if living in the RV was an option. That said, you can often pick up beat up old campers and caravans cheap - they don't need to be roadworthy if you're using them for onsite accommodation. That would still be a better option for living quarters than the container and they could use the container as a workshop/storage space until they had the funds for the Quonset (which will be the 12th of Never at this rate).