Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

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I have no words for this. (to busy laughing at tranny jim jones) Also requesting to add tranny jim jones to the title, the because the troontown saga has officially begun.
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Pajeet should quit fighting deportation and go back to his designated shitting street if he wants to see a dystopia.
 
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unclestryker said:
I have no words for this. (to busy laughing at tranny jim jones) Also requesting to add tranny jim jones to the title, the because the troontown saga has officially begun.
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It's not a fucking dystopia. Try living as a jobless troon in somewhere like Uganda, Saudi Arabia or North Korea, then tell us all about how America is such a hellish place. I guess Greta got tired of digging latrines on her own, and that's why they're really going for it with the troon cult rhetoric. I am a big fan of Nina's use of the present tense to imply that all this stuff is happening right now, and they're not just shitting in a hole by a metal box.
 
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unclestryker said:
I have no words for this. (to busy laughing at tranny jim jones) Also requesting to add tranny jim jones to the title, the because the troontown saga has officially begun.
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Go to the last bastion of freedom for trannies! Come and be awed at lack of common amentities! Be astounded at our lack of sustainable resources needed for basic living! Please come live with us and be exploited for free labor! Scream in terror as we won't ever let you go!

Welcome to La Zorra, CA.
 
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I am personally looking forward to reading about the confrontation between the FBI/ICE and Troontown, I hear there's crossbows involved.
 
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We've been tossing around multiple references to Jonestown and Waco. In the interest of fairness, let's go through
a checklist of cult red flags. I went with a government site rather than a .com for extra legitimacy points.

If you suspect the group you are in is harmful, but are not sure, ask yourself these questions:
  • do they claim to have a special corner on the truth, something no other groups has?

    Eh, kind of, if we count "Only transpeople can speak truth about the trans experience."
  • are you told to not question what is being taught, as the leadership are godly, honest, have divine authority and you must trust them?

    Check.
  • are you discouraged from asking questions as to why members have left, and expected to accept the reasons the group leadership gives you?

    Haven't really seen this, possibly because the prerequisite for having people leave your circle is actually having people in your circle to begin with.
  • do they put down other churches, groups, etc, while pointing out their faults and errors to build themselves up? do they use peoples faults and sins as examples of what to do and what not to do?

    Checkitty-check.
  • are you made to feel your failures, as though your performance is not up to par to their righteous standards?

    Sorta. I've seen a lot of slagging perceived enemies, not so much rubbing peers' noses in the pee spot on the rug as a corrective tactic.
  • do they recommend for you to be around their people, expecting you to attend all group activities? if you do not, are you are questioned about your spirituality or dedication?

    If we replace "attend all group activities" with "give us financial support," then yeah, but this one's a bit weak.
  • do they stop you from reading anything negative about themselves?

    Yeah, if we count "don't listen to [x], they're part of the KF army or whatever."
  • do they call those who fall away enemies, dogs, or cancer, even using examples from the Bible or other such materials?

    I don't recall seeing them react to any defectors, so I believe no.
  • do they place and emphasis on evil and the devil, declaring that the world outside is a threat to the group?

    OH _FUCK_ YEAH, CHECK AND MATE.
  • do they defend themselves in every area?

    Checkaroonie.
  • do they give importance to a spiritual goal, such as enlightenment, godliness, salvation, that has no real tangible way of being measured?

    Mmmnh, not particularly. In Nina's post describing the mission statement of La Zorra, they have a lot of abstract states as their goal, but offer concrete actions to achieve those states. (Whether those actions are feasible, or if they will get the desired result, is another story).

  • do they operate in humility, or seem arrogant, and make demands on you to obey, using such statements such as “real believers obey without question or if you really were a devoted follower you would do such and such"?

    Checkitty-doo-dah.
Be aware of:
  • an instant bonding or friendship without even knowing you

    Check, particularly on road trip vacations fundraising tours.

  • being told you have a special calling or potential and that if you join you will move further ahead; flattery is used often in cults

    I can't think of an example of this off the top of my head.

  • when you ask questions about the history of the group, the answers are vague or avoided altogether

    A weak check, if we count the very biased accounts of unflattering events as they happen.

  • feeling that something is being hidden from you

    Check. WHY DON'T THE NUMBERS REGARDING TLL ADD UP, GRETA??
Conclusion: I'm going to be reeeeeeeeeally generous and only count the 100% confident "check"s, which brings us to a total of 7 out of 16 points. Definitely a high enough score to be worrying, IMHO, particularly when you consider some questions don't really apply at this early stage.
 
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My sides.
 
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Chaton_Mort said:
being told you have a special calling or potential and that if you join you will move further ahead; flattery is used often in cults

I can't think of an example of this off the top of my head.
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I dunno, every time they encounter someone in a vulnerable place in life they push super hard to get that person to admit they're trans and join the hivemind. I guess it's less flattery and more offering a solution to all of the victim's problems, but the fluff talk about transwomen being strong and special seems to apply.
 
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....What the fuck am I looking at?? Are they completely burying the container on 3 sides, hobbit-hole style? That will make the interior temperature more consistent & tolerable, provided they pile up enough dirt.

That's probably it, although it would be hiLARious if they were trying to camouflage the container as part of the landscape. "ICE will never find us now!"

Here's what immediately popped out at me: take a look at that dirt. Either Greta & Nina ran out of fucks after working all day in the desert heat, or they don't own one of these:

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Now take a look at that landscape. There's no trees, no buildings, no windbreak. That dirt is going to blow away the next time the wind picks up if they don't tamp it down.
 
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