Disaster Mass shooting at florida high school - Beware the autism

http://www.wesh.com/article/multiple-injuries-reported-in-shooting-at-florida-high-school/17887738

Multiple people have been injured in an active shooter situation at a high school in south Florida, police confirmed.

The Broward Sheriff's Office is responding to the shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.

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The Coral Springs Police Department is asking students and teachers to remain barricaded inside until police reach you.

According to WSVN, at least three people were seen surrounded by first responders and one person was seen being wheeled into an ambulance. There are reports of up to 20 injuries.

 

[JaneThough]

I don't disagree with anything you said here. I'm sure there's a compromise. I don't think some of the firepower available needs to be as readily available as it is. Sure. But background checks haven't seemed to prevent much of anything. So the next step is outlawing them.

I think more likely, cutting down on loopholes and limiting the type of weaponry is something everyone can get behind. Make it illegal to sell guns second hand, unless through a licenced dealer who can do background checks, and maybe let's not have military grade weaponry out there.

I get there'll be criminals who won't abide by this, but the whole idea of "criminals won't follow the law, so lets not have laws" doesn't apply to anything else in our society, so why do we think it should here?

 

[redcent]

Another day in US

 

[autism420]

 

[Krispum Western Chumbler]

Stoneman High School Shooting
Social media video of various shooting victims in the classroom and hallway.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de5_1518655081

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Unpopular opinion: I think if you immediately jump on people saying "gun control now" or "gun control never" in the aftermath of a school shooting then you're pretty fucking tone deaf. While I don't agree with gun control, suggesting or pushing a method you seriously believe can prevent tragedy is a totally reasonable response.

The thing about it though is that people that do the immediate politicization will bitch and moan when the "other side" does the same thing for another issue like when some kebab pulls some shit in Europe and they become massive hypocrites.

The US has needed to take SOME form of general action to safe guard against shooting sprees for a long time.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

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Was that achieved through the aging filter, or did someone photoshop Jerry Orbach’s face onto review brah’s?

 

[Zaragoza]

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So is this the left's own take on "Thanks Obama"?

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Eh, whatever. I don't think taking away the rights of 100's of millions of people simply because an incredibly infinitesimal percentage of unhinged lunatics is either fair, nor justified.

I get the knee jerk reaction to take away a tool. But a tool only does it's job in the hands of someone using it. Someone needing to hammer a nail without a hammer will find something else. Taking hammers away from an entire country because a few used a hammer wrong is kind of overkill.

For fuck's sake, I'm tired of this argument. They are not going to take all the guns away. That's never going to happen. It's unconstitutional and there's no way the Second Amendment would ever change to let that happen. When most people talk about wanting more gun control they mean making guns easier to keep track of and not as easy to get. Sure you have some libtards saying to take them all away, but that's not what the vast majority of people wanting more gun control to happen.

I know we already have provisions for this stuff in place, and to be honest, I'm not sure what we can do that would actually work. I'm just so sick of this stupid strawman arguing of "WE SHOULD TAKE ALL THE GUNS" and "THEY GONNA TAKE ALL MUH GUNS" when that clearly is not going to ever happen. I mean, what do you guys think is going to happen? That one day suddenly owning any guns is going to be illegal and that the government is gonna break down your door and take them all? I mean, come on. That's ridiculous and both sides are stupid for thinking that's ever going to happen.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Make it illegal to sell guns second hand, unless through a licenced dealer who can do background checks

easier to keep track of and not as easy to get

The main issue that exists for any form of direct gun control like the ones you suggest lies here. This is absolutely impossible to do and implement unless you create an even more invasive surveillance state than we already have, and if that's the route you wanna go then it would be much more effective to monitor people rather than grey market transactions.

 

[repentance]

Another day in US

The thing which got me right in the feels was someone tweeting to Aiden that they'd been through a school shooting too. This shit should never be common enough that total strangers who've had that experience are able to offer you support on social media while the event is still in progress. It's a sign that way too many people have experienced this.

 

[Android raptor]

Can't say I'm surprised someone who enjoyed hurting animals eventually hurt people, I know cruelty to animals is one of the biggest warning signs that someone will become a murderer.

I know the lefties on my FB feed are already crying about gun control. Even if you prevent people from getting guns legally, the US is still attached to an entire continent of people who would love to sell us even more illegal guns than they already do.

Speaking of, do we know if his guns were legal?

 

[autism420]

The main issue that exists for any form of direct gun control like the ones you suggest lies here. This is absolutely impossible to do and implement unless you create an even more invasive surveillance state , and if that's the route you wanna go then it would be much more effective to monitor people rather than grey market transactions.

WA has this, and all you have to do is say that the gun changed hands before the law went in to affect.

 

[DonaldJTrump]

How soon until we get blamed?

 

[Graffiti canvas]

When most people talk about wanting more gun control they mean making guns easier to keep track of and not as easy to get.

So something like a registry then. Where you have to tell police or whoever where you live, what guns you have and report when you move so they can keep track of them? I can't think of any other mechanic that accomplishes "to keep track of" them.

 

[Zaragoza]

Unverified/semi-verified montage:

Dat yearbook pic.

The way he covers himself and knife flaunting reminds me of Shadman.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Alt-right be all like "his last name is 'Cruz' doe."

Dirty spic.

If it turns out this kid is "undocumented" or a "dreamer", watch that aspect of the story get buried by everybody except Infowars, Fox News, etc.

 

[XYZpdq]

Locking crazies up sounds good until you think about the sort of people who will decide if you get locked up.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

I think more likely, cutting down on loopholes and limiting the type of weaponry is something everyone can get behind. Make it illegal to sell guns second hand, unless through a licenced dealer who can do background checks, and maybe let's not have military grade weaponry out there.

I get there'll be criminals who won't abide by this, but the whole idea of "criminals won't follow the law, so lets not have laws" doesn't apply to anything else in our society, so why do we think it should here?

The US already limits what kind of guns you can buy. Automatic weapons as well as modifying guns to be automatic are illegal. Furthermore, introducing gun laws would have the opposite effect of increasing the purchase of guns. The guns laws we do have in place are inconsistent about definitions, poorly categorize guns, and are written by people who know nothing about guns. This vid explains it better:

I wanna prevent shooters too but I don’t think gun regulations are gonna help. Anyone who thinks they should gun people down for any reason is already fucked in the head. And I think fixing mental healthcare is a better solution than gun laws.

How soon until we get blamed?

You mean they haven’t already?

 

[JaneThough]

The US already limits what kind of guns you can buy. Automatic weapons as well as modifying guns to be automatic are illegal. Furthermore, introducing gun laws would have the opposite effect of increasing the purchase of guns. The guns laws we do have in place are inconsistent about definitions, poorly categorize guns, and are written by people who know nothing about guns. This vid explains it better:

I wanna prevent shooters too but I don’t think gun regulations are gonna help. Anyone who thinks they should gun people down for any reason is already fucked in the head. And I think fixing mental healthcare is a better solution than gun laws.


You mean they haven’t already?

I don't subscribe to the "what's worked in every other country just won't work here". Somehow almost every other civilized country has figured this out, let's see what they did and try to implement that here.

We've become accustomed to doing nothing, so we think nothing can be done. Every time one of these shootings happens, there's a flare of "GUNS BAD" "THEYRE COMIN FOR OUR GUNS!" and then it all dies down until the next round, which comes sooner and sooner. But we eventually throw our hands up and say "Nothing would change it!" when that's wrong, and we have data from other countries that proves it can be improved.

And federally, it's not illegal to purchase bump stocks, which the Las Vegas shooter used to turn his weapon automatic. Some states have enacted laws, but when you can just go next door and get it, it doesn't really matter.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bumpstock-ban-20180212-story.html

Also, it'd be nice if anyone in power was sincere about wanting to fix mental health care, and it wasn't just always used as a distraction from the gun issue we face. I, too, think mental health care would help immensely. But that never changes either. So *shrug*.

 

[TowinKarz]

For every slain child that is thrust in front of my face with a demand I honor them by giving up my right to bear arms, I can only point to ANTIFA thugs beating people with bike locks for mere political stances as my counter argument that the right of the citizen to arm themselves against tyranny doesn't de-facto mean the (unlikely) government kind.

The 2nd Amendment isn't obsolete just because a state or national-level threat isn't likely and has a standing army as a first-responder.

I don't fear my government, but I certainly don't trust some of my neighbors, with GOOD reason.