Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

Baldur's Gait said:
I hate this whole selfish Oppression Olympics shit these people pull. It completely disregards the oppression of other peoples. What about the Native Americans who were forced off their own land and had their cultures virtually eradicated? Or hell, what about the centuries of racism and prejudice against the Jews even before the Holocaust happened?

Black people suffered a lot, but it's disgustingly self-centered to try and say, "WE suffered more!" Everyone has suffered at some point or another.
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We're all ableist oppressors to the dead.
 
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Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
This would be fine if about half the models didn't look so weary.
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All I can say with this one is: "fuck you".
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WTF???? There's a lot you can pin on Roosevelt (that I'm not going into in this post, although he certainly wasn't the only one) and Churchill as well. But WHATEVER your feelings are about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he wasn't the one who bombed them. It was Harry Truman. (Seriously, where did you find this? What a fucking dumbass!)

And saying that Mao and Stalin's numbers are disputed? Who doesn't know about the Great Leap Forward! And even the Reddest of the Red hate Stalin!



The only decent commie I can think of was maybe Tito. There's speculation he had Stalin poisoned. (Yeah, I know it's the Daily Fail, that's the best I could find.)
 
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Mrs Paul said:
And saying that Mao and Stalin's numbers are disputed? Who doesn't know about the Great Leap Forward! And even the Reddest of the Red hate Stalin!
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The numbers are heavily disputed. Pretty much no actual historians or sinologists think Mao killed 78 million people or Stalin killed 23 million. These numbers are from Robert Conquest and the Black Book of Communism and even the co-writers have said the numbers are bullshit because the author was intent on making the 100 million mark if the evidence said so or didn't.

This is not to say Mao and Stalin never enacted policies in which mass repression occured and large numbers lost their lives. They did. The Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Holodomor, The Stalinist Purges, many people lost their lives. But the BB of Communism isn't a good source for these numbers nor historians like Dikotter.

Chinese history is more my thing and from what I read, most historians and Sinologists consider the "Excess deaths" of Mao to be around 15 mil (largely due to the hilariously stupid Great Leap Forward) and Stalin around 4-8 mil (Mostly due to Holodomor).

Still horrific numbers though. I mean, to picture 4-8 million people. That is, literally every single person alive today in London, killed.

Mrs Paul said:
The only decent commie I can think of was maybe Tito.
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A lot of them are a mixed bag honestly.
Lenin imo is the greatest political and tactical mind of the 20th century hands down. The events between Feb-October are just mental and Lenin outplayed everyone from a extremely minority position, even within his own party as most Bolsheviks were opposed to Lenin after the April Thesis laughably claiming he had become a "delusional ultra-left Anarchist". That said, I disagree strongly with Lenin's Terroristic actions during the Civil War. The NEP was also great policy which was copy-pasted by China in the 1980s and because what is now known as "Deng Xiaoping thought" (The best Bolshevik was Bukharin who was the actual mastermind behind the NEP, he was killed by Stalin of course).

Mao is honestly fucking awesome until 1956 where he started to basically go insane. Before 1956 The outcomes China went in the early stages of Maoism are mindboggling. Shit like the Barefoot Doctors liteally saved tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of lives and the program is the basis for a lot of modern NGO and World Health Organisation programs for delivery of Health to rural areas in developing nations today. Also it was Mao who personally created the program that led to the cure of Malaria, Project 523. The Chinese actually have a saying for Mao. "If he died in 1956 he would be the greatest world leader that ever lived. If he died in 1962 he would be considered a good leader who made massive mistakes. Too bad he died in 1976". A great book to read on Early Maoism and really explains the Chinese perspective on Mao is Fanshen.

This chapter especially shows how fucking awful China was before the Revolution and gives context probably to why the Chinese gave in so much to events like the Cultural Revolution.

Dubek was fine though he was ousted by the Soviets in the Hungarian Invasion.

Tito was just a badass motherfucker.

That's pretty much all I can think of.
 
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iafiv said:
When did Churchill kill 8 million?Also Roosevelt is now a tyrant?I seem to remember him as fighting against Hitler.Do those figures include combatants or only civilians?
And why are only communist leaders put in the disputed/unverifiable category?Also i think that list kind of missed a few tyrants like Idi Amin or Mengistu Haile Mariam but that might be controversial since they're black.When it comes to Mengistu its even worse he was also a communist.
And regarding Bush does anyone remember 9/11?I think that might have had something to do with the US going to Afghanistan i don't know someone might want to check up on that.A better question do SJW's know what 9/11 is anymore?
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I think the takeaway is that with SocJus, there are no winners, only losers. Whatever side you're on, you're a cisheteronormative patriarch that did something wrong to someone.
 
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Butta Face Lopez said:
Ah, they're doing that hip "Models shouldn't be attractive" thing
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Let's see with these models (from the top left to right):

First row: That girl has got a weird neck, she looks really weary, she's pretty.
Second Row: Trim that beard of shave it off, get a damn haircut and you look strung out, some make-up and a better pose would help, ok looking, fix those eyebrows, she's pretty.
Third row: He's good looking, maybe if she had a better hairdo, maybe for catalogs, she's pretty, she's ok and get a haircut or a comb.
 
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Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
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Let's judge all these other leaders by standard X, but judge Trump by standard Y, while conveniently pretending the two are the same!

How many more million casualties could you find if you included all the people in the world that wonderful communist leaders like Stalin and Mao acted "aggressive" towards?
 
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I love that all the commie counts are "Disputed" or "Unverifiable" but they can just pull numbers out their asses to blame a dead man and the leader of an entirely different country for bombs that killed nowhere near eight million people, but the worst by far, BY FAR is someone who has murdered or been responsible for the murders of exactly zero people (heavily disputed)
 
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