Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

One Man Bland said:
A lot of comic shops I've seen have moved into the collectable and tabletop gaming circles in order to keep themselves in business. At this point those avenues seem to be much more profitable for them than comics by themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if the next logical step for them would be to stop ordering from Marvel, Image, IDW, and some of the smaller publishers so they can make room for more inventory that actually sells.
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I know two great comic book stores in my area that don't do this, at all. They concentrate on the comics. The first one I know of has little-to-no nerd crap around. The first thing you see is walls filled with comics, boxes filled with back issues. Any collectible stuff is minor, confined to its own wall. (They also admittedly sell old LPs, CDs, DVDs and video games as well, but that's in another room of the store.) They're doing so well they have a second location in another state and have just expanded to take over the unused space next door.

The other one's a great comic book store up in Boston, which again features little-to-no nerd stuff. It's all comics. And the first thing you see when you walk in is the children's section, with things getting more adult the further back you go, which has nothing really to do with this but probably helps somewhat.
 
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Brandon Graham has pretty much been complaining about this video since D&C posted it, saying that D&C took these tweets out of context, and said that he (Graham) needed to censor himself to sell comics. I don't know where Graham is getting that from, honestly. D&C is very clear that he's talking about Marvel and DC, mainstream comics, which Graham has repeatedly said he won't work in and doesn't even like. Graham has also said that he and Aubrey Sitterson are buddies, and he agrees with Sitterson's comments about 9/11.

Oh, and also, I hate weaselly shit like this. If you think that's true, then actually give us the names. I mean, he must have more, because I've heard of the women he listed here.
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RockVolnutt said:
https://archive.is/t0Y7w

Has anyone got any interesting posts about this? This is DC's guidelines on social media.
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A quick skim tells me that they're telling them to stay out of slapfights, which is always a good idea.

Of course that jackass Rich Johnston wants to make it look like a win for his camp..

Everything will depend on enforcement of course.

D&C video about this is up:

 
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krautkid said:
I enjoy that they blamed Ethan for this media guidelines but I'm more willing to bet its come to their attention via fans complaining about rude creators on Twitter and DC agreeing that it's gotten out if hand.

I find it weird they didn't have any guidelines before to be honest and that Marvel doesn't have any either. Most game studios have them and are fairly strict about putting 'personal opinions are not the studio's'.
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I believe @RockVolnutt mentioned a few pages back that prior to this DC's social media policy was along the lines of "you can either use it it as a professional account or a personal account but not both" which despite being flimsy seemed to do wonders for curbing the amount of Twiiter drama. This new policy seems to be an expansion of that.

Granted they have other kinds of drama like Frank Cho and Greg Rucka's also fights, The Legend of Wonder Woman creative teams being scammers, and that one editor who was known to be abusive for years not being fired; but social media/PR scandals specifically are pretty minimal compared to the likes of publishers like Marvel or IDW - though those two are especially bad because they combine a lack of social media professional policy with hiring the kinds of disingenuous chucklefucks who practically thrive on drama.
 
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PrincessJupiter said:
Sorry for going slightly off-topic, but I haven't heard of this, do you have any more information?
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This article does a decent job of documenting it, but the gist of it is that Ray Dillon and Renae de Liz had a long history of doing crowd funding campaigns and commissions where they seem to either take years to deliver or just take the money and run.
 
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neural said:
A quick skim tells me that they're telling them to stay out of slapfights, which is always a good idea.

Of course that jackass Rich Johnston wants to make it look like a win for his camp..

Everything will depend on enforcement of course.

D&C video about this is up:

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From what i understood this was huge loss for their camp. Ethan Van Sciver was already following most of these terms, although he was doing a WIP in one of his videos and that's against the terms unless he got permission for it. IIRC it was a Suicied Squad cover.
 
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There's a high chance he got permission for it, Murata streams his process for the One Punch Man manga very often. Showin off a wip is good hype marketing, and a cover isn't necessarly spoiler content
 
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krautkid said:
I find it weird they didn't have any guidelines before to be honest and that Marvel doesn't have any either. Most game studios have them and are fairly strict about putting 'personal opinions are not the studio's'.
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One of the CGers found this, i dont know if it applies to Marvel or not.


Found something, apparently the usual suspects (Mags, Darrylayo, Tim Doyle, etc...) receive a newsletter from this account through Patreon. Its an industry newsletter that only Patrons have access to. Its as cringey as you'd think it would be. Im including an article that was open to non-patrons in PDF form:
 

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damian said:
Dan quit twitter within hours of the DC Social Media Policy being publicized, not sure if the 2 are connected. Slott and Waid quit very often, both those morons will be back soon.
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Honestly, the fact that SJW comicpros are using the same shitty tactics from gg is so satisfying. There is no "other" to pander to. Comics are not like vidya, there's no mainstream appeal, it's all just troons and spergs and if you've ever been to a local shop you know there's 10x more Chris clones than there are trendy non-gendered womyn. As much as I like the format of the car reviewers, as soon as this movement gets someone with some production value and charisma that autists can rally behind, then there's no hope for the SJWs.
 
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