UN Xi Jinping set to become next Mao Zedong - Term limits to be removed from constitution

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/25/world/asia/china-xi-jinping.html

Not that it really matters since China is a one party dictatorship anyway, it's going back to being a one man, cult of personality dictatorship.

BEIJING — China’s Communist Party cleared the way for President Xi Jinping to stay in power, perhaps indefinitely, by proposing that the nation’s Constitution be changed to abolish a two-term limit on the presidency.

The Communist Party Central Committee, a council of senior officials from the ruling party, “proposed to remove the expression that the President and Vice-President of the People’s Republic of China ‘shall serve no more than two consecutive terms’ from the country’s Constitution,” the Xinhua News Agency said on its English-language website.

Since each term is five years in length, the Constitution had limited Mr. Xi, who became president in 2013, to 10 years in office.

The announcement was not immediately reported by Xinhua’s Chinese-language service or other Chinese-language news media in China, a development that was all the more puzzling because the Central Committee is not due to meet until Monday.

Even if prematurely announced, the move appears to be the most dramatic sign that Mr. Xi harbors ambitions to stay in power longer than his two immediate predecessors, Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin, both of whom stepped down after two terms.

It also confirmed that Mr. Xi has amassed enough power to rewrite the rules that constrained recent Chinese leaders, and that were aimed at preventing the reappearance of the cult of personality that had surrounded the People’s Republic’s founding father, Mao Zedong.

 

[Adolf Von Merkel]

Anyone who think that who is the leader of a superpower nation can change something is a lolcow.

 

[Piss Clam]

I'm of the notion that I will see a revolution in China within my lifetime. You can't expand the economy, uplifting many Chinese, without them wanting more.

 

[LulzKiller]

Xi has already consolidated his power massively before this, and is massively bitter (understandably) over his treatment as a youth during the Cultural Revolution.

They had that Xi Jinping Thought recently to replace Mao's.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

They had that Xi Jinping Thought recently to replace Mao's.

All of this just to piss of some dead guy. Why not go all out by recognising Taiwan as a sovereign state, give Tibet independence and introduce a democratic system.

 

[Adolf Von Merkel]

I'm of the notion that I will see a revolution in China within my lifetime. You can't expand the economy, uplifting many Chinese, without them wanting more.

Lol if the commies regime fall they will put a postcommunist/Tought leader that pol mongrel will suck their dick like it happen in Russia and the central asia nation.
When you have a diversity nation like china and Russia you need a tyrant to not being Yugoslaved.

All of this just to piss of some dead guy. Why not go all out by recognising Taiwan as a sovereign state, give Tibet independence and introduce a democratic system.

Powerlevel but because Taiwan is china too. Is like if the confederates states after losing the civil war fleed to an island and declared the TRUE and HONEST United State of america.
And giving tibet the independence -> giving turkestan the independence and is so obvious that Turkestan will become another central asia state with a battle between islamist and a strongman leader and Tibet would become another nepal where China/India backed their government.
Also, Tibet is Chinese's Golan height, they need their water or some shit.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Anyone who think that who is the leader of a superpower nation can change something is a lolcow.

In China, the power structure had been very, very centralistic with most (if not all) power resting in the hands of Mao Zedong. It took some time to overcome this, even after his death. A notable exclusion at the end of Mao Zedong's life was the Gang of 4, a small group of people who had sizeable influence on politics.

It's not like western nations, where politicians often are mere figureheads for lobby interests. China is, shall we say, much less sophisticated in that regard.

 

[CWCchange]

Is he going to try and top Mao's high score of seventy-eight million people?

 

[Positron]

Is he going to try and top Mao's high score of seventy-eight million people?

Can't even touch the "projected" high score of Trump (100-250 millions).

 

[El Garbage]

I'm surprised China had a term limit in the first place, since the country is essentially a dictatorship. Removing it might cause a Soviet Union -style gerontocracy with senile old men hanging on to leadership positions for too long, which will eventually cause the whole system to collapse.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I'm surprised China had a term limit in the first place, since the country is essentially a dictatorship. Removing it might cause a Soviet Union -style gerontocracy with senile old men hanging on to leadership positions for too long, which will eventually cause the whole system to collapse.

That's what happened with Mao Zedong, bascially, and they got rid of that System in the long run. They now return to it. There won't be much impact economically, but it's going to have quite an impact on society.

I was expecting people in China to be fed up with their government at some point in the future, but I wonder if this will act as a catalyst. It will undoubtedly lead to more attempts by the government to control information online and crack down on those that question the official narratives. This will build up pressure over time...

But until something happens, I expect a sudden and completely surprising increase of anti-Japanese protests in the future.

 

[CrunkLord420]

China is doing great and has a bright future if they can walk a fine line between international-trade state-capitalism China and cultural-control communist china. The progress China is making in the sciences is putting the rest of the world to shame and showing the power of a determined government not encumbered by trying to carrot and stick investors into making the "right" choices.

 

[AnOminous]

Shit like this is why any time I feel like bemoaning that the Article V process for amending our Constitution is fuck-awful and practically impossible, I have to admit it's a goddamn good thing it is that way.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

China is doing great and has a bright future if they can walk a fine line between international-trade state-capitalism China and cultural-control communist china. The progress China is making in the sciences is putting the rest of the world to shame and showing the power of a determined government not encumbered by trying to carrot and stick investors into making the "right" choices.

People will glorify China in the coming 1 or 2 decades for their economic success.
I can tell you already what we can expect:

There will be a shitton of theories as to why China is managing to leave all competition in the dust, there will be a lot of pseudo-scientist works that will search for China's success in their culture, history and for some time, you'll be able to buy stuff like "Sun Tzu's The Art of War: Manager Edition" and similarly nonsensical stuff.

The simple matter of fact is: It's a nation that is slowly turning from "cheap labour" to "hightech and science". There have been tons of foreign investments, used to modernize China and built infrastructure, they can now use that knowhow to climb to the top of technology. I mean, they have been used to build cheap hightech, first with imported parts, then they started to supply those parts locally. At some point, their R&D sector overtakes the other nations.

At some point, this will stagnate but the economy will not stop to bloat. We'll see a giant bubble economy and it will rather sooner than later get China off it's high horse. I assume their already rampant real estate bubble will be a massive cause for trouble, though their economy is much more strictly overseen by the government, so hell if I know how that will turn out.

Add to that a new personal cult centred around Xi Jinping and the upcoming years will be really interesting.

 

[millais]

During his time in office, he has also taken away all the power from the Chinese Politburo by reorganizing it into a clique of yes-men who exist solely to rubberstamp whatever he hands them. Used to be that the Chinese President was just the public face and representative of the Politburo's will, whose members were collectively the real wielders of power in the CCP, but now he has totally upended the right state of things.

 

[whatever I feel like]

People will glorify China in the coming 1 or 2 decades for their economic success.
I can tell you already what we can expect:

There will be a shitton of theories as to why China is managing to leave all competition in the dust, there will be a lot of pseudo-scientist works that will search for China's success in their culture, history and for some time, you'll be able to buy stuff like "Sun Tzu's The Art of War: Manager Edition" and similarly nonsensical stuff.

The simple matter of fact is: It's a nation that is slowly turning from "cheap labour" to "hightech and science". There have been tons of foreign investments, used to modernize China and built infrastructure, they can now use that knowhow to climb to the top of technology. I mean, they have been used to build cheap hightech, first with imported parts, then they started to supply those parts locally. At some point, their R&D sector overtakes the other nations.

At some point, this will stagnate but the economy will not stop to bloat. We'll see a giant bubble economy and it will rather sooner than later get China off it's high horse. I assume their already rampant real estate bubble will be a massive cause for trouble, though their economy is much more strictly overseen by the government, so hell if I know how that will turn out.

Add to that a new personal cult centred around Xi Jinping and the upcoming years will be really interesting.

You seem to just think that China is going to be Japan again. But you are wrong and there is one reason you are wrong, China's size. Japan's rise had limited effects on the world because their growth could only lift the populace's buying power to a certain limit, and at that point it stopped. The thing is, China is something like fifteen times bigger than Japan, four times the size of the US, etc. And even with its population growth flattening out, you'll still only need their populace's value to rise to half or a third of that of a western state to have an economy that dwarfs it.

Furthermore, US companies that are "investing" in China, are only going to get short term benefits out of it. Most internal sales are done with a "Chinese partner" in a way that hasn't been done anywhere else in the world and that's bullshit, but the Chinese get away with forcing it on international companies. Thing is, those Chinese "partners" are tomorrow's competitors and they'll be the ones taking any Chinese assets and market share from the partnership. Japan, as a market place wasn't big enough to get away with such a thing and thus it was integrated into the global consumer marketplace somewhat normally (though obviously there were a few exceptions... cars, food staples, etc.)

And of course, the final difference is that Japan never wanted to use its growing influence to overturn the international world order anyway. It had a teeny, tiny military and thus liked American dominance and as an island trading nation with a teeny, tiny military it liked freedom of the seas. All of its territorial disputes were either pro-status quo or, in the case of their dispute with the USSR/Russia, against a nuclear superpower (and thus not going anywhere anytime soon.) China of course is the opposite. Its territorial disputes are (or were until a few years ago) almost universally NOT settled in its favor. Its close to the world's busiest trading routes, but its not actually on them and thus has limited control. Its main geographic weakness is currently the sea and its coastal strategy is specifically based around undoing freedom of the seas. We will have to deal with this shit forever, because they are making (and even announcing) their own plans to do so too.

China is never going to get off its high horse, even if its economy slows down and we would have all been better off putting a stop to this mess back in the 50s.

 

[AnOminous]

Great.

This looks like a setup for the final world war, which will be nuclear.

 

[Cosmos]

Is there anything more foreboding and intimidating than a leader advocating that term limits should be abolished? It’s basically like they’re announcing “I’m going to stay in power and you better get used to it.”

 

[millais]

Is there anything more foreboding and intimidating than a leader advocating that term limits should be abolished? It’s basically like they’re announcing “I’m going to stay in power and you better get used to it.”

Even Putin had the modicum of feigned modesty to step down and spend a term as PM to let Medyedev play figurehead president so as not to do two consecutive terms as president.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Lol if the commies regime fall they will put a postcommunist/Tought leader that pol mongrel will suck their dick like it happen in Russia and the central asia nation.
When you have a diversity nation like china and Russia you need a tyrant to not being Yugoslaved.

If China were to become a Democracy it would probably be a lot more like Taiwan (Republic Of China) although it wouldn't be as rich, it would eventually reach economic stability.

Powerlevel but because Taiwan is china too. Is like if the confederates states after losing the civil war fleed to an island and declared the TRUE and HONEST United State of america.
And giving tibet the independence -> giving turkestan the independence and is so obvious that Turkestan will become another central asia state with a battle between islamist and a strongman leader and Tibet would become another nepal where China/India backed their government.
Also, Tibet is Chinese's Golan height, they need their water or some shit.

The ROC/Taiwan has it's own Military, Leaders, Parliament, and Political Parties, its practically its own country even if it isn't recognized by the UN.