Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[repentance]

@repentance has a great point above here .we don't know what other income(s) they may have had from other things they stay hush hush on .

On another topic, they should fundraise Sisterwood via pop up events focused on trans and trans allies .

I would love to travel to the desert and get some dessert. A coffee. A mug. But it will be funded all fudged up .

We know they're planning to hold music festivals. And many intentional communities make money both by producing something and by holding workshops to teach others sustainability skills (of course you need a functioning community before you can tap that market).

If they set up Sisterwood as a separate entity, they can even earn income by leasing the greenhouse space to Highgarden. And while Greta and Nina are no longer TLL staff, it's possible they'll still do things for TLL as "contractors" or "consultants".

Even with funding Sisterwood can't succeed without a core group of permanent residents, though.

 

[Charles Morgenstern]

Music festivals... this could prove even more hilarious than the Fyre Festival for sheer incompetence.

 

[Caesare]

People who have no idea what they're doing owner build all the time. The main disadvantage is that it will take you much longer and end up costing more than using contractors (because you'll need to fix up stuff you got wrong).

Yeah, that's usually only expansions and additions that people are doing themselves on their already existing homes. Some crafty DIY person might even build a tool shed or even a garage from scratch, but an entire building that's supposed to be part of a community and be of some use or service to a large number of people? That's not easy to do even if you know a little something about building things.

 

[bigshot]

Does anyone know if non-compete agreements are common when leaving these sorts of (scam) organizations?

How can you claim to be a non-profit that does good and try to prevent someone from doing the same thing? That's just "more good being done".

 

[Randy Lahey]

Music festivals... this could prove even more hilarious than the Fyre Festival for sheer incompetence.

Another great idea

Spoiler: Genius Idea Inside

Burning Tran

 

[repentance]

Yeah, that's usually only expansions and additions that people are doing themselves on their already existing homes. Some crafty DIY person might even build a tool shed or even a garage from scratch, but an entire building that's supposed to be part of a community and be of some use or service to a large number of people? That's not easy to do even if you know a little something about building things.

Greta's original idea for this was pretty much a tent city. Even recently she's made mention of looking at UN refugee camp plans and Nina has mentioned it as being a permanent campground where people will build their own yurts, tiny homes or whatever. The only building they've really talked about providing themselves is the Quonset hut - and those are prefab and made to be put together by home handymen.

I expect that it will just end up being a shanty town because they'll end up building what's cheap and easy rather than what's durable. It actually makes sense to do that initially - there's little point in sinking large amounts of money into a "community" which might not even survive it first year - but it will limit the number of people willing to move out there.

I suspect the reality will be much more like slab city than whatever artisan healing community most of these fruit loops are imagining.

 

[Caesare]

I suspect the reality will be much more like slab city than whatever artisan healing community most of these fruit loops are imagining.

Yeah this is what imagine it would end up being if (a huge IF) it gets off the ground. A whole bunch of older camper trailers and school buses strewn around a few acres, with lots of garbage piled up everywhere. Then, when the few residents get tired of living in this dump, they'll go back to whatever squat they were in prior.

 

[Charles Morgenstern]

I suspect the reality will be much more like slab city than whatever artisan healing community most of these fruit loops are imagining.

Given enough time and human involvement, Saskatroon could be like a City of God prequel.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

So to clarify, Greta and El Niño are now being booted from their own scam and on top of that are doing “Tranny Community Home Calamity 2: Electric Boogaloo”? And they’re growing weed in it for some reason?

 

[Charles Morgenstern]

Well, it is not like you'd expect an alleged self-sustaining community to grow food. Weed is much better.

 

[Optimus Prime]

So to clarify, Greta and El Niño are now being booted from their own scam and on top of that are doing “Tranny Community Home Calamity 2: Electric Boogaloo”? And they’re growing weed in it for some reason?

Yes. Their money making scheme kicked them out, cutting off their only supply of funds, and they are now stuck in the middle of literally nowhere with nothing but some raggy tents and a half-sunken inter-modal shipping container where their dream troon waco is supposed to be.

 

[Jaimas]

Yes. Their money making scheme kicked them out, cutting off their only supply of funds, and they are now stuck in the middle of literally nowhere with nothing but some raggy tents and a half-sunken inter-modal shipping container where their dream troon waco is supposed to be.

All right, I know someone probably covered this earlier, but: I thought they were looking into prefab housing?
Quonset Huts and that kind of thing, or perhaps prefab sheds (there's sheds that can easily be turned into decent living quarters).

How did they go from that to a fucking shipping container? Just the usual Troon laziness, or something even stupider?

 

[repentance]

So to clarify, Greta and El Niño are now being booted from their own scam and on top of that are doing “Tranny Community Home Calamity 2: Electric Boogaloo”? And they’re growing weed in it for some reason?

We actually have no confirmation that they were asked/forced to leave TLL. It's just speculation.

Screencaps posted earlier in the thread from the Sisterwood Working Group confirm that they're planning on growing weed on their land.

All right, I know someone probably covered this earlier, but: I thought they were looking into prefab housing?
Quonset Huts and that kind of thing, or perhaps prefab sheds (there's sheds that can easily be turned into decent living quarters).

How did they go from that to a fucking shipping container? Just the usual Troon laziness, or something even stupider?

They were sleeping in tents and found it too cold. Yes, really. Then when they found sleeping in the shipping container too cold, they half buried it.

I assume money is the issue with the Quonset hut - and the well too, for that matter. It was supposed to be the first structure on the land but when I priced one the size they were looking at it was over $11,000. You'd be looking at adding the cost of laying a couple of thousand square foot slab of concrete as well.

They also seem to spend a lot of their time sitting around getting stoned, which isn't conducive to rapid progress.

 

[Optimus Prime]

We actually have no confirmation that they were asked/forced to leave TLL. It's just speculation.

At the same time, for what reason would they have to willingly leave TLL? It was making them money and they had to do absolutely jack shit.

 

[AnOminous]

Well, it is not like you'd expect an alleged self-sustaining community to grow food. Weed is much better.

Meanwhile they'll just smoke the weed and then drive 20 miles to buy Ho Hos at the nearest convenience store to their The Hills Have Dicks compound.

 

[repentance]

At the same time, for what reason would they have to willingly leave TLL? It was making them money and they had to do absolutely jack shit.

I know I'm in the minority in thinking that they had already planned to leave TLL and only stayed until Greta no longer needed the income to support Nina's green card sponsorship, but the fact that they set up Highgarden in September suggests not only that they were looking to the future but also to how they could set up something which legally allowed them to spend money for their own benefit (which is something they couldn't have done indefinitely with TLL).

Both Highgarden and Sisterwood fit far better into the whole helping themselves and their friends trip than TLL ever could, and I suspect that it was only Nina's pending court case which held them up with biting the bullet on Sisterwood.

They've left TLL at a time when expenses have risen and donor fatigue is likely to be setting in.

I also think Greta's ego is way to big for her to let herself be pushed out of her own organisation. She'd burn it to the ground before she let that happen.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I know I'm in the minority in thinking that they had already planned to leave TLL and only stayed until Greta no longer needed the income to support Nina's green card sponsorship, but the fact that they set up Highgarden in September suggests not only that they were looking to the future but also to how they could set up something which legally allowed them to spend money for their own benefit (which is something they couldn't have done indefinitely with TLL).

Both Highgarden and Sisterwood fit far better into the whole helping themselves and their friends trip than TLL ever could, and I suspect that it was only Nina's pending court case which held them up with biting the bullet on Sisterwood.

They've left TLL at a time when expenses have risen and donor fatigue is likely to be setting in.

Those are some good observations, hadn't thought of things from those angles.

 

[Marvin]

I know I'm in the minority in thinking that they had already planned to leave TLL and only stayed until Greta no longer needed the income to support Nina's green card sponsorship, but the fact that they set up Highgarden in September suggests not only that they were looking to the future but also to how they could set up something which legally allowed them to spend money for their own benefit (which is something they couldn't have done indefinitely with TLL).

Both Highgarden and Sisterwood fit far better into the whole helping themselves and their friends trip than TLL ever could, and I suspect that it was only Nina's pending court case which held them up with biting the bullet on Sisterwood.

They've left TLL at a time when expenses have risen and donor fatigue is likely to be setting in.

I also think Greta's ego is way to big for her to let herself be pushed out of her own organisation. She'd burn it to the ground before she let that happen.

I don't think they're dumb enough to believe trannytown or weed farming is super successful though.

I think they'd hang onto tll dollars as long as they could, and then only engage trannytown/weed farming begrudgingly when circumstance forces them to.

 

[Cheeseburger Picnic]

There's no money in growing anymore unless you've got a serious eye for business and the capital for large scale production. All of the small time family grows in potbasket of the US Northern California are packing it in and moving on because there's no money in it anymore due to legalization - the market's flooded and nobody can move any product. There's no way Highgarden is going to net them the kind of cash that they're hoping for.

 

[TL 611]

They've left TLL at a time when expenses have risen and donor fatigue is likely to be setting in.

Didn't a lot of celebrities virtue signal TLL pretty recently? I was under the assumption that they were growing pretty fucking quickly due to the fact that people like Katy Perry and Mark Hamill tweeted about them.

I know I'm in the minority in thinking that they had already planned to leave TLL and only stayed until Greta no longer needed the income to support Nina's green card sponsorship,

I'm fairly confident that they were forced to resign, read TLL's statement:

"Greta and Nina were asked to resign their positions and to cooperate in the investigations and with an outside review"


I found this skimming through twitter, seems like some people aren't exactly happy that the ogres have been kicked out.