Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[Tragi-Chan]

I adore that much of the digging on this one will be from trannys that worship them. They put so much faith in Greta and Nina that now they want answers.

It has to be like torture for Greta to watch the well meaning idiots she used force this into being a larger and more public issue than it had to be.

With no tranny outrage, greta could have spun this. Instead it forces TLL to release a statement.

I think a fair few of her worshippers will remain loyal. Partly because they’re holding out for the boinking huts in Sisterwood, but mostly because of the cult of personality. To the likes of Phil and Fire, Greta’s living the dream - she gives them hope that this whole trooning out thing will work out in the end.

 

[TheFutureMrsMoon]

I think a fair few of her worshippers will remain loyal. Partly because they’re holding out for the boinking huts in Sisterwood, but mostly because of the cult of personality. To the likes of Phil and Fire, Greta’s living the dream - she gives them hope that this whole trooning out thing will work out in the end.

Is there any chance her remaining supporters will go as far as saying she did the right thing?

She flew around the country acting like a rock star. So, part of me can imagine if they put two and two together, they could realize the booze and weed Greta had came out of the lifeline. Which puts them in an odd spot.

Perhaps, her wasteful spending was an attempt at saving lives through partying? Lol

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Is there any chance her remaining supporters will go as far as saying she did the right thing?

She flew around the country acting like a rock star. So, part of me can imagine if they put two and two together, they could realize the booze and weed Greta had came out of the lifeline. Which puts them in an odd spot.

Perhaps, her wasteful spending was an attempt at saving lives through partying? Lol

They’ll with talk it down or suggest she was framed. Never underestimate the power of mental gymnastics. Like I say, if any of them had the force of personality, they ‘d be doing exactly the same.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

Anyone think that ol' Scout Wolfclaw managed to stage a coup? I wonder how friendly Greta and Scout are going to be in the future...

 

[TheUltimatePickle]

All right, I know someone probably covered this earlier, but: I thought they were looking into prefab housing?
Quonset Huts and that kind of thing, or perhaps prefab sheds (there's sheds that can easily be turned into decent living quarters).

@Randy Lahey don’t you have a buddy that lives in a shed that he converted into a tiny house?

 

[Lesbian Sleepover]

It's adorable that the troon* community wants answers. This thread documents the whole thing. How can anyone be so blind that these two were taking cookies from the jar ?!

 

[MG 620]

Judging by the more recent pictures of the two they ate every single one of them.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

It's adorable that the troop community wants answers. This thread documents the whole thing. How can anyone be so blind that these two were taking cookies from the jar ‽

When you've got a bunch of middle-aged fat men who post photos claiming to be cute girls, there's really not much limit to the amount of delusion they can handle. They'll believe what they want to believe, no matter how little sense it makes. Hell, they'll probably accuse us of faking the evidence.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Confirmation that TLL has not reported for the 2015, 2016 and 2017 financial years. Failure to report for three consecutive years can lead to revocation of their charitable status. I don't know if that happens automatically as it does here, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

Edit : I've found their 990-EZ for 2015, so it's only 2016 and 2017 for which they haven't filed.

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Apologies if this has been posted before, but the easiest way to get a charity's federal filings is to go here:

http://990finder.foundationcenter.org/

Using only the FEIN (472097494 - no dash) brings up this. Only return filed was for 2015. Full PDF here. Not sure if there's any sauce to be found by looking at the Board of Directors? Was amused that the return was prepared by Nina. (See the Paid Preparer section, Page 4. Since "she" was internal to the organization that should have technically been left blank.) Interesting that they had inventory sales as well. If they sold anything by mail to CA residents they were probably supposed to have collected sales tax. Wonder if they did?

In 2014 they were apparently able to get away with filing only a postcard, Form 990-N. Link to IRS search, click the 990-N tab, 472097494 as FEIN, brings up this. I don't think those forms are viewable. But they did do something.

2016 is delinquent. The return was due 05/15/2017, but if they had the sense to put it on extension it was not due until 11/15/2017. On paper they're technically subject to a $20/day late filing penalty, but since IRS treads very lightly around charities, assuming they file sometime in the relatively near future they should be fine. Even if they get a letter, all you need to do is spout some generic nonsense about being unable to get all the information together in the time required, maybe plead unstable management on the board level (which they clearly have had) and IRS will excuse you. I think that penalty only ever applies when the charity has a long history of late filing, or otherwise being cute to IRS. And they're far too new to be in that category. I guess it is also possible the website's database isn't fully updated, but I did see 2016 returns from several other charities I looked at.

2017 is fine. Return is not due until 05/15/2018, 11/15/2018 if they put it on extension. Technically I think the delinquent 2016 return might prohibit them from going on extension for 2017, but IRS is kind of a limp dick about stuff like this since it generates bad publicity.

 

[Kosher Dill]

When you've got a bunch of middle-aged fat men who post photos claiming to be cute girls, there's really not much limit to the amount of delusion they can handle.

That's true for every group of dogged reality-deniers. Conspiracy theorists have a tendency to start believing each other's (unrelated) theories, partly because they're good at turning off the reality-checking part of their brains, and partly on a sort of unspoken "I'll believe your conspiracy if you believe mine" mentality. So the chemtrails guy will also end up buying into the Illuminati, the fluoride, and the school shooting hoax theories.
Same thing with troons - once you get them started with "I am a cute anime girl" that opens the door to pretty much anything.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

All right, I know someone probably covered this earlier, but: I thought they were looking into prefab housing?
Quonset Huts and that kind of thing, or perhaps prefab sheds (there's sheds that can easily be turned into decent living quarters).

How did they go from that to a fucking shipping container? Just the usual Troon laziness, or something even stupider?

They didn't have enough cash to hand. They also wanted to use the expired shipping container as storage for tools and as a workshop storage. The Quonset hut, even in small kit form, needs hard standing to be built on. In order for that to happen they will need concrete which means they need water.

Water they refuse to get because in order for a bore drilling company to get out there and actually make a bore hole, it needs a water tanker to help keep the drill bit cooled. Something they responded to like angry chimps by yelling at the bore guy, who presumably has experience and knows what the fuck he's doing "The fuck do you think we're hiring you for?" or words to that effect.

By the by, I have zero experience drilling bore holes myself, I just looked shit up on the internet. Something the orgres can't be arsed to do despite the fact one of them worked for fucking Google.

I found this skimming through twitter, seems like some people aren't exactly happy that the ogres have been kicked out.
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Because they were stealing the money you fucking spastic.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Didn't a lot of celebrities virtue signal TLL pretty recently? I was under the assumption that they were growing pretty fucking quickly due to the fact that people like Katy Perry and Mark Hamill tweeted about them.


I'm fairly confident that they were forced to resign, read TLL's statement:

"Greta and Nina were asked to resign their positions and to cooperate in the investigations and with an outside review"


I found this skimming through twitter, seems like some people aren't exactly happy that the ogres have been kicked out.
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Mark Hamill also believes that Trump is literally Palpatine.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I’m glad the board issued a statement. It was obvious, to me, the Greta & Nina were forced out only because con artists never willingly give up a good con.

Greta’s mistake was in her lust for self-importance and donations she attracted a some actual professionals into the fray and once an investigation was done for accreditation and accounting looked at the level of embezzlement of funds for personal use was shocking - and they had to go ASAP or the whole thing was at risk.

Also it had to be BAD like, holy shit we could go to jail if we don’t do something, for them to cut Greta & Nina out like a cancer and issue such a statement. For a non-profit to put out a statement like that it was firmly in illegal, punishable with jail time/fines and destroy the entire organization bad.

 

[Von Wolf Demon]

Also it had to be BAD like, holy shit we could go to jail if we don’t do something, for them to cut Greta & Nina out like a cancer and issue such a statement. For a non-profit to put out a statement like that it was firmly in illegal, punishable with jail time/fines and destroy the entire organization bad.

Fully agree. Also, from what I have seen, there is little furor on this in social media, other than the Reed Brice post from above? Asspats abound for Greta and Nina, with few questions being asked. NDAs were signed, I'm guessing. Greta and Nina are not trying to create "REEEE" which is nearly unheard of for them. TLL's Facebook post was clearly screened by a lawyer, and I note that there is not ONE positive word for Greta and Nina in it. Nothing that could later be interpreted as an endorsement of their reign. Not even "We wish them the best in the future" or "we thank them for their incredible dedication to this org".


For those who may be confused (understandable), Bunny=Scout Wolfcave. So, yes, a coup appears to be what happened. Bunny/Scout already has her own page here.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/translifelines-cameron-meyer-scout-wolfcave-tiffany-st-bunny.36396/

Scout's whole thing is "microgrants" direct to help trans people. She seemed to be a skeptic of Sisterwood's ambitions from the start, but I think this is more about the larger pattern of financial opacity during Greta's reign rather than just funds that may or not have been wasted on Sisterwood.

If a bunch of people having fun on the Internet can figure out what was going on, it would have been child's play for any kind of auditing agency to create a report highlighting the nonsense that has gone on and making it very clear to the board. I don't think this was just some personal power play by Scout, but if their lawyer is worth a damn they would realize the situation they were putting themselves in by sticking with the Dynamic Duo and HAD TO act.

So they did what any reasonably sentient person would do and cut them loose.

FYI: Dr. Olivia Danforth, who openly celebrated her over-prescription of hormones, is on the board of TLL. I think this could continue to be a source of humor even without Greta and Nina.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I’m glad the board issued a statement. It was obvious, to me, the Greta & Nina were forced out only because con artists never willingly give up a good con.

Greta’s mistake was in her lust for self-importance and donations she attracted a some actual professionals into the fray and once an investigation was done for accreditation and accounting looked at the level of embezzlement of funds for personal use was shocking - and they had to go ASAP or the whole thing was at risk.

Also it had to be BAD like, holy shit we could go to jail if we don’t do something, for them to cut Greta & Nina out like a cancer and issue such a statement. For a non-profit to put out a statement like that it was firmly in illegal, punishable with jail time/fines and destroy the entire organization bad.

It's just a benign statement though, though. These two troons should have been exposed for the autogynephilic, malignant-narcissists they are, but the "trans" community could never expose one of their own. I know they don't want to create a PR nightmare either, but not exposing these two shows how distorted and commercial the "trans"-community has become. It went from being run by men who are covering up the truth for money to other men who are covering up the truth for even more money.

 

[Von Wolf Demon]

It's just a benign statement though, though. These two troons should have been exposed for the autogynephilic, malignant-narcissists they are, but the "trans" community could never expose one of their own. I know they don't want to create a PR nightmare either, but not exposing these two shows how distorted and commercial the "trans"-community has become.

- "Autogynephilic, malignant-narcissists" is a fair description of much of the remaining board, unfortunately. This isn't some "truscum/transmedicalist" coup against the tucutes, just a tucute change of the guard, as a bunch of them realized they don't want to go to jail or get fined for Greta's shady behavior. They still aren't picking up the damn phones, so how much are things going to change in the short term?

- This just broke in the last 24 hours, more or less, it is possible somebody in the journalistic world will pick this up eventually and ask questions. Not holding my breath...

-The board is likely to find itself embroiled in legal drama for months and years to come. Making personal attacks on Greta and Nina, as satisfying as they would be to US, would not be a smart move on their part. Let the audit and investigations run their course and let Greta and Nina hang themselves. Eventually Greta and Nina blow things up on their own, no need for the board to push it.

-Their use of the phrase "several operating issues currently under investigation" and their total omission of any gratitude towards Greta or Nina spoke volumes, even if it is not the spectacular beat down we all know they deserve. In my opinion, their handling at this point is totally professional... exactly the kind of professionalism that was always lacking during the Greta Epoch.

 

[talk talk talk]

In the world of the Nonprofit Industrial Complex, that sort of statement counts as a spectacular beatdown.

It reads like it was written by a non-troon outside the organization. I can't see an insider troon using the word "transitioning" in that context.

 

[Jaimas]

They didn't have enough cash to hand. They also wanted to use the expired shipping container as storage for tools and as a workshop storage. The Quonset hut, even in small kit form, needs hard standing to be built on. In order for that to happen they will need concrete which means they need water.

Water they refuse to get because in order for a bore drilling company to get out there and actually make a bore hole, it needs a water tanker to help keep the drill bit cooled. Something they responded to like angry chimps by yelling at the bore guy, who presumably has experience and knows what the fuck he's doing "The fuck do you think we're hiring you for?" or words to that effect.

By the by, I have zero experience drilling bore holes myself, I just looked shit up on the internet. Something the orgres can't be arsed to do despite the fact one of them worked for fucking Google.



Because they were stealing the money you fucking spastic.

....So there's no toilets out there. Joseph, play me off.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm fairly confident that they were forced to resign, read TLL's statement:

Why Gee Golly Jeepers, it looks like those evil Kiwi Farmers were right about these two. Any of you assholes care to apologize?

There's no money in growing anymore unless you've got a serious eye for business and the capital for large scale production. All of the small time family grows in potbasket of the US Northern California are packing it in and moving on because there's no money in it anymore due to legalization - the market's flooded and nobody can move any product. There's no way Highgarden is going to net them the kind of cash that they're hoping for.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a federal crackdown, either. First, Sessions has been making ornery noises in that direction, and second, with the market as it is, there's going to be a lot of temptation to divert the "legal" marijuana to more lucrative markets. When it starts appearing in interstate markets, and it probably is already, the feds will get more active.

The state itself may also try to head them off at the pass by cracking down themselves on operations that are violating state law. I also wouldn't be surprised if grow operations themselves start ratting out their competitors for various violations.

 

[Charles Morgenstern]

I agree that TLL has likely become too prominent to continue flying under the radar. It was taken as something of a given here that while the ogres were outright embezzling, they simply didn't draw enough charitable donations for the proper authorities to take a gander at their finances. There is a good possibility that this is no longer the case.

What remains to be seen is whether TLL is attempting to get ahead of the problem by dumping these idiots and cleaning house before the sharks realize there is blood in the water or they're already hearing the Jaws theme.