Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[repentance]

While there hasn't been much against the Ogre and Pajeet on Twitter or Facebook, there has been a dramatic turnaround in responses towards Trans LifeLine; many are now calling it suspect, if not outright considering it a scam. I suspect that given time, people will gradually become less afraid to speak out, and eventually most of the gruesome twosome's original supporters will call them out now that they can without consequence.

I think that there's also a group which is loyal to Greta and Nina personally and that because their personal friends tend to be anti-authority to an extreme degree, they'll view them as having done nothing wrong.

The silence won't last forever, though. What's being said privately on both sides will eventually become public.

 

[Android raptor]

While there hasn't been much against the Ogre and Pajeet on Twitter or Facebook, there has been a dramatic turnaround in responses towards Trans LifeLine; many are now calling it suspect, if not outright considering it a scam. I suspect that given time, people will gradually become less afraid to speak out, and eventually most of the gruesome twosome's original supporters will call them out now that they can without consequence.

Any new screencaps? There's something oddly satisfying seeing people outside of us and ED/etc calling out TLL's shady bullshit.

Are Grena still friends with Bunny and the other people still with TLL on social media? It might be worth paying attention to their f-lists because if it gets to the point of Greta and Nina getting unfriended then you know some shit went down.

 

[repentance]

Are Grena still friends with Bunny and the other people still with TLL on social media? It might be worth paying attention to their f-lists because if it gets to the point of Greta and Nina getting unfriended then you know some shit went down.

Their friends lists have been private for a long time. The Sisterwood Working Group member list hasn't changed since they left TLL, though.

Does anyone remember what month Greta posted photos of her fortifications? I'm curious whether it was around the time Highgarden was formed.

 

[captn_kettle]

Lol this kicked off a bit since I last checked, I got a bit bored when nothing really manifested.

Turns out this is what inevitably happens when you take liberties on the mass ignorance, even the most stupid of people wake up somewhen.

But that sisterwood "out in the desert troonville" plan had to have raised red flags.

In fact this desert troon ville reminds me of the CSI episode "shooting stars": https://www.csifiles.com/reviews/csi/shooting_stars.shtml

If that shit shack was successful, I bet Greta would be paraded as a "god" and it all would have gotten a bit cult-esque.

 

[AnOminous]

Unless the person was put into proceedings in error (which Nina wasn't), the immigration court can only terminate the proceedings if there's a legitimate status available to the immigrant immediately should deportation proceedings end (which there was by virtue of USCIS having completed the assessment in October and finding no barriers other than the deportation proceedings). So after the October interview it was essentially "approved in principle" pending the outcome of the deportation hearings.

I'd bet you're right on this. I had muddled up the dates in my memory. ICE appears to have had sufficient cause to detain.

 

[repentance]

I'd bet you're right on this. I had muddled up the dates in my memory. ICE appears to have had sufficient cause to detain.

It's also confusing as fuck because Nina, Greta, and TLL have posted so much contradictory information during the time this played out.

 

[salt]

Bunny is not Facebook friends with Greta or Nina.

 

[JULAY]

It's also confusing as fuck because Nina, Greta, and TLL have posted so much contradictory information during the time this played out.

You mean to tell me that these two scam artists were being dishonest?! Perish the thought! They got their dicks pushed in, which makes them immune from criticism!

 

[repentance]

Bunny is not Facebook friends with Greta or Nina.

The Tiffany Saint-Bunny account is still friends with them but she hasn't posted anything public on that account since soon after it was created. It was her "real life people" account.

 

[4Macie]

Seems like the court came up with a good system that Greta still managed to find fault with, surprise surprise.

Next thing you know, any business using a next in line queue number is going to be dehumanizing their customers.

Using names can cause confusion sometimes. You either don't pronounce it right, or someone screeches that it's not their name. Not going to lie, there have been immigration problems before because there are two or more Lopez or fifteen Muhammads. You do NOT want to risk processing the wrong person. So what's the best practice? Using a number that is different person to person and is completely unique to an individual.

I'm 100% certain what happened was, "Will A# 1234567 please step up to the stand?" They probably did say Nina's real name too, but that ignored by Greta because it's Nina's 'slave name'.

 

[JULAY]

The Tiffany Saint-Bunny account is still friends with them but she hasn't posted anything public on that account since soon after it was created. It was her "real life people" account.

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Misery and white supremacy. Says the white man. Christ, you can't make this shit up.

 

[Ghostse]

If white supremacy is real, explain Kjel.

 

[AnOminous]

If white supremacy is real, explain Kjel.

Checkmate atheists.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Their friends lists have been private for a long time. The Sisterwood Working Group member list hasn't changed since they left TLL, though.

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Does anyone remember what month Greta posted photos of her fortifications? I'm curious whether it was around the time Highgarden was formed.

For those who aren't aware, Buck Angel is not some nobody.
He's a pretty prominent celeb in LGBT circles, and his condemnation is not a small matter. This is a pretty serious PR nightmare for TLL.

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

For those who aren't aware, Buck Angel is not some nobody.
He's a pretty prominent celeb in LGBT circles, and his condemnation is not a small matter. This is a pretty serious PR nightmare for TLL.

That makes some of the celebrity response to TLL all the more bizarre. Miley Cyrus and Laura Jane Grace are friends with Buck Angel but both have endorsed TLL. Did he not make his disgust for TLL well known until the Ogres were ousted? If he'd been vocal about his opinion months ago, I wonder why his friends wouldn't have at least double checked before they endorsed TLL.

I guess this shouldn't surprise me - few people outside of "hate" sites like KF do a lick of due diligence before retweeting or spouting off about whatever topic flashes across their screen, but still...

 

[repentance]

That makes some of the celebrity response to TLL all the more bizarre. Miley Cyrus and Laura Jane Grace are friends with Buck Angel but both have endorsed TLL. Did he not make his disgust for TLL well known until the Ogres were ousted?

The Miley Cyrus endorsement was in 2015, not that long after Nina left Google and she and Greta moved to Chicago. The organisation was too new to have any kind of history at that point - Miley's own charity was also fairly new.

It's also not like celebrities typically personally vet their endorsements. Many of them don't even run their own social media accounts, so a tweet promoting something doesn't necessarily have the personal approval of the celebrity.

It's possible Buck Angel did make his opinion quietly known to people he trusted, and it's equally possible that some of those people disregarded his skepticism.

 

[MG 620]

Buck Angel is pissed, that's for sure.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

For those who aren't aware, Buck Angel is not some nobody.
He's a pretty prominent celeb in LGBT circles, and his condemnation is not a small matter. This is a pretty serious PR nightmare for TLL.

I’ve always found it interesting the ftm /transmen seem vastly more sane than mtf/transwomen. There are less of them and they don’t seem to create anywhere near the drama and absurdities of transwomen.

I’m not aware of any troon equivalents of transmen. (I’m not counting the teenage anime tumblr doing trendy I’m really “a gay boi” nonsense because that’s just adolescent snowflake attention seeking)

I’m sure troons would say it’s because they pass easier and there’s less stigma but I think it’s got more to do with there not being a big sexual fetish driving the transition like there is with transwomen. I’m not aware of any large cross dressing population of females who get a sexual thrill seeing themselves in male clothes. (I’m sure it exists but it’s minuscule compared to the huge male cross-dressing fetish population)

 

[Peace and Harmony]

I’ve always found it interesting the ftm /transmen seem vastly more sane than mtf/transwomen.

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest when you think about the vast difference between how DAMN CIS men and women weigh social acceptance and sexual access as motivational states in general.

On-topic: Kjel is a fucking ogre.

 

[unclestryker]

I'm personally interested in seeing more people speak out against TLL/Grena, especially in the trans community.

This has been going for a while now. Its just finally caught up to them. Ya see the problem with troons is that they are very self serving. Meaning that their loyalty is just a means to an end. Once that "leader" (and I do mean that in the loosest sense) serves their purpose and is no use to them. They will turn on them like rabid dawgs and not moment later. Its just the way it is and always been. Shit, look at the documentary paris is burning, troons live to tear each other down. Then you got me ( and others like me) or people like me. You can throw shade at me all you want, and I'll just laugh that shit off. However I call it like I see it and I don't mince my words. (and they hate us for it)

Spoiler: And guess whose being used, in the fight against greta and tll.