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neger psykolog said:
To catch up people with the lore, this was a recent Tweet by Phil:
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https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/971312785253634048
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if the leaks are credible (and i dont have an opinion on this), then to my mind the only thing they show is that this tweet is a lie. we all know that dsp calls any information he doesnt like "slanderous", "false" and "misinformation." also, we all know it's bullshit, since by and large, with the exception of the catfishing saga, detractor videos are nothing but his own voice or gameplay, manipulated in some bit to emphasize his idiocy, with some comments that are clearly the video creators' own opinion. it would be a downright stupid waste of time for him to try and go after channels like snort burnell.

furthermore, on the 10 worst moments thing, he should be happy about that video because of just how hard it rails on the sok fallout. that segment was brutal and phil should leave a comment thanking him for it.
 
LordAutismo said:
I know you don't want any discussion on who this mystery guy is but I think this needs to be asked. Is this guy supposed to be a YouTube employee or something or just some random fan. It makes me wonder how Phil expects to reach his end goal if he is not talking to someone in a position to help him directly.
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Again, no speculation regarding the identity of the source please. Who the source is is not currently a point of discussion and doesn't really add anything of value.

Rather focus on the content of the information posted and know that I've been able to access the Twitter account to verify the messages exist and are truthful.

I get that people may not be a fan of that on a forum where no detail is too small, but it is what it is.
 
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KingjadVCMP said:
Rather than ask who, can we ask WHY this source has taken this action?
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My best understanding is it was likely in relation to Phil's tweet about not being involved in flagging videos. So if that tweet from DSP was never made then those screencaps would've probably never been shared.
 
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I only ask because Phil seems to have a heavy interest in this guy but from what you have shown the guy hasn't done anything you or I couldn't have done ourselves.

May I ask how deep this DM rabbit hole is? I don't expect what you've shown to be all of it.
 
DSPGaming the first video that appears from his own account.

61st place in search rankings.

(Maybe he should re-evaluate his business strategy)...


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LordAutismo said:
I only ask because Phil seems to have a heavy interest in this guy but from what you have shown the guy hasn't done anything you or I couldn't have done ourselves.

May I ask how deep this DM rabbit hole is? I don't expect what you've shown to be all of it.
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Its as deep as the 3 screenshots that were posted. Nothing more and nothing less.

The exact amount of information provided is that DSP was involved somehow in possibly flagging videos on YouTube. That's it.

Just so we're on the same page, this person has shared these screenshots in an anonymous capacity. I've been able to prove they are true & authentic and as this person has clearly not shared fabricated information then I will respect their wish about the anonymous part of things.

If people sperg out about who it is then no one will ever share anything. So just take it as it is... 3 screenshots showing some involvement in flagging videos.

Here's a quote that will probably help make this a bit more understandable:
"You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"
 
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Rereading the screencaps I noticed that Phil is too busy to locate and flag videos himself so he asks someone who has an ACTUAL JOB to do it for him. 9 to 5ers have it easy they have 16 hours in a day to relax and do nothing. Phil works nonstop from when he gets up until he passes out from exhaustion.

If Phil were smart here's how he could find and report "slanderous" videos and make money at the same time. Do exactly what the detractors are doing. Watch the detractor videos on your stream and point out to your audience what is incorrect and slanderous. Make a note of them and report them later. Maybe even some fans would join in on the reporting and the offending vids would get taken down.

This would be outside of Phil's comfort zone and will never happen.
 
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Sparkletor said:
Rereading the screencaps I noticed that Phil is too busy to locate and flag videos himself so he asks someone who has an ACTUAL JOB to do it for him. 9 to 5ers have it easy they have 16 hours in a day to relax and do nothing. Phil works nonstop from when he gets up until he passes out from exhaustion.

If Phil were smart here's how he could find and report "slanderous" videos and make money at the same time. Do exactly what the detractors are doing. Watch the detractor videos on your stream and point out to your audience what is incorrect and slanderous. Make a note of them and report them later. Maybe even some fans would join in on the reporting and the offending vids would get taken down.

This would be outside of Phil's comfort zone and will never happen.
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He would be stopping the videos every 5 seconds and going on 20 minute rants each time. A lot of detractor videos are Phil's own words and actions being played back unedited, so it would be nothing but the "out of context dood" excuse, which only gets you so far. It's out of Phil's comfort zone because he knows getting his fans to actually watch detractor videos would probably make them detractors, which is why he tells them to stay away. He only trusts a very small group of his inner paypigs to do the dirty work for him.
Plus, with Twitch's new rules about harassment, getting his fans to mass flag videos he doesn't like would only get him suspended again.
 
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I don't think Phil sits there all night watching the detractor videos and drinking gin but he sure has people who watch them and whisper them to him. I think the one detractor he does watch is Tevin. He's definitely seen a few Tevin videos just because there's stuff in there that's too coincidental. Tevin will suggest something and it's not something that a fanboy spy would tell DSP and then Phil will do the suggestion. Like when Tevin said Phil should do a fighting game marathon as a patreon goal, Phil announces it a day later. Tevin does a where's Kat video, suddenly Kat's arm and her shirt and her leg appear in instagram posts, etc.
 
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neger psykolog said:
Its as deep as the 3 screenshots that were posted. Nothing more and nothing less.

The exact amount of information provided is that DSP was involved somehow in possibly flagging videos on YouTube. That's it.

Just so we're on the same page, this person has shared these screenshots in an anonymous capacity. I've been able to prove they are true & authentic and as this person has clearly not shared fabricated information then I will respect their wish about the anonymous part of things.

If people sperg out about who it is then no one will ever share anything. So just take it as it is... 3 screenshots showing some involvement in flagging videos.

Here's a quote that will probably help make this a bit more understandable:
"You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"
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Not trying to out anyone. Just trying to ascertain if Phil's smug remarks about talking to people on the inside have some truth to them or if Philvis trying to start his own SoK operation. The latter would be funny as hell.
 
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If the SoK made 9 hour long podcasts about some DSP events, then Phil would make a 24 hr emergency podcast where he talks endlessly every time he finds a new detractor video.

He completely missed the opportunity to embrace the TIHYDPs from the beginning and rather tried to shut them down, then had a poor attempt to make use of the popular term (TIHYDP MGS5) and failed at any attempt to get his exceptional fanbase to make counter-TIHYDPs to show people what a great player he is, only to end in a total disaster since this guy cannot take the slightest critique.

One might think that after so many TIHYDPs - some of them show way more effort in editing and creating than Phil does - he comes to the idea that he is the root of it. But no, like yesterday he delivered grade A+ TIHYDP material with his Heavy Rain 2.0 run.
 
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BatChatillon said:
If the SoK made 9 hour long podcasts about some DSP events, then Phil would make a 24 hr emergency podcast where he talks endlessly every time he finds a new detractor video.

He completely missed the opportunity to embrace the TIHYDPs from the beginning and rather tried to shut them down, then had a poor attempt to make use of the popular term (TIHYDP MGS5) and failed at any attempt to get his exceptional fanbase to make counter-TIHYDPs to show people what a great player he is, only to end in a total disaster since this guy cannot take the slightest critique.

One might think that after so many TIHYDPs - some of them show way more effort in editing and creating than Phil does - he comes to the idea that he is the root of it. But no, like yesterday he delivered grade A+ TIHYDP material with his Heavy Rain 2.0 run.
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Its probably just become noise to him at this stage. There is no way he watches every single video but he watches just enough to be aware of what the main people say or think about him.

Its similar to how all of DSP's prestreams have become noise to me, after you've watched a certain amount you realize that its the same thing being rehashed every day because he's never going to do anything different.
 
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Sparkletor said:
I don't think Phil watches the detractor videos. He definitely gets told what is being said about him, but I don't think he takes time to watch.

"Secret Life of DSP did a whole segment on the escort!" This was likely assumed because "Kimberlie Brink" was in the thumbnail. In reality the entire segment takes up about 100 seconds in a three hour video.

"Snort Burnell edits your videos to make you say things out of context" yeah, that's the joke. Show Phil mugging for the camera or acting like a fool then cut to I am not a children's entertainer. Phil says, "I'm gonna be honest," insert clip "thanks for the money dummy!" It's not slander nobody thinks Phil just starts singing I'm gay I'm gay I'm gay for no reason.

Most of the "anti-dsp" videos say Phil is bad at games, Phil begs for money, Phil is bad at reviewing food, or Phil jacked off on stream. All of which are arguably true.
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Maybe not all of them, cause there is too many, but im 100percent sure he watch tevin videos: In one of his videos, the black dood made a "for the lulz" joke. It was kinda cringy... anyway... 1 or 2 days later, dsp did the same joke, the same way. Not before that and not since then he said that i am aware of. Its not something his spies would let him know, soim super convinced he watches these videos.
 
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neger psykolog said:
He has repeatedly claimed that people searching for his videos only find detractor content because his opinion seems to be that only he should be able to use his name in the title of videos
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I know this is absolutely not the point you wanted to make but it's still true:

DarkSydeFlail doesn't write his own name in his video titles which is a big missed opportunity. Many big youtubers do that because it's healthy for search engines, so of course people find more detractor videos rather than his original khantent. If you ask youtube-networks they say this: Write your name in the title, description and tags. Also write down what happens in your episode in an organic form (not just copy hashtags, for example).

But never forget that exploiting hashtags (f.e. write them in the description) is not allowed and can be punished with demonitization.

So, here you go with some insider knowledge.

And my opinions on the current events: Oh no, what a surprise. If this is "authentic italian source" then Phil lied to us. How can this beeee...
 
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Yeah, I ain't trusting the DMs. Then again, ever since Phil's shifted in fucking up big time a few times a year to pretty much everytime he's about to go back to his old, far more boring pattern (he's already had more events than a usual year for him) is messing with my sense of suspicion given that it goes heavily against what was such a long running pattern.
 
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