Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Tess is at it again
4ce329120ca88f6faebecbb8b294bc9a.png

https://archive.is/qQl0U

Also Michelle
4cab53a80587a02a5ad4ce7bb9d4f7a9.png
 
Does Michelle Perez even know that the stalking charge was made by another straight dude? And that none of the details given seem like the incident had anything to do with being black or gay? Because the way Perez is talking about it makes it seem like Zack was stalking a woman or some minority group with the intent of committing a hate crime or something.

I mean I'm sure that's the exact intent considering the deliberate omission of leaving out who the target of this alleged "stalking" was since Perez probably knows the common perception of a stalker is some creeper hiding in the shadows of an alley while some unsuspecting woman wanders home alone, but I'm wondering if anyone else has pointed that out to Perez yet.
 
  • Like
Reactions: damian
These two parts of the Tess tweets I posted got the biggest chuckles out of me. Does this sound like how someone talks about their job?
6a3fbdadfffb7b76a1e8181208919847.png


5fb4861213049d7d86632872aaf52953.png
But what if the one they're taking the stand against is YOU? Will you accept that or just dismiss everyone by calling them racists and transphobes?
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: damian
These two parts of the Tess tweets I posted got the biggest chuckles out of me. Does this sound like how someone talks about their job?
6a3fbdadfffb7b76a1e8181208919847.png


5fb4861213049d7d86632872aaf52953.png
If Tess was concerned about "Protecting Family", then the bitch hated by everyone she works with would be trying to make sure that said family doesn't have to beg for sandwiches. This would be done by working with the fans who actively keep your business afloat, not shit all over them and making sure you're out on your ass begging for money. It would not and never should involve destroying it in a fit of Hitlerian self destruction.

And yes you fucks wrecking your own job and who should be fired, you are acting like Hitler on drugs right now. This would be the equivalent of screaming to subordinates to burn down Paris.
 
Tess is at it again
4ce329120ca88f6faebecbb8b294bc9a.png

https://archive.is/qQl0U

Also Michelle
4cab53a80587a02a5ad4ce7bb9d4f7a9.png
Yeah this shit is clearly coordinated lol.

Whenever a colleague suffers a loss of a loved one, people throw $10 in the hat and sign a fucking condolences card and get on with their day.

Somehow I suspect Tess would do even less than that.
This is the same person who was alleged to have scammed co-workers and even a dying customer.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/comicsgate.38138/page-28#post-3019525
 
And a now a word on diversity from the co-creator and penciller of Y: The Last Man...

https://twitter.com/piaguerra/status/981206204587286530

(who am I kidding, it's a long winded rant)

This exchange though

View attachment 418607
Long screenshot, always archive or cap everything, preferably both. I am about to get on a flight in a couple hours, and Archive.is is always finicky with me for some reason, so I'll do it when I land.
Screenshot_20180404-155007__01.jpg
As much as Pia thinks that she is being incisive and clear headed about the issue, she really isn't, Comicsgate isn't targeting the editors, because they pretty much know that they share the same idiotic thinking that the pros have. Comicsgate is instead trying to get the attention of publishers and EiCs, who are the people in actual control of all creative activities.

All Pia managed to do here is to actually prove that the comic pros and editors share the same incestous type of relationships that sparked Gamergate and in turn, Comicsgate.
 
I wonder what the suits at Disney (parent of Marvel Entertainment) and Time Warner (parent of DC) think of this dumpster fire? I'm guessing they've figured it just isn't worth getting involved given the small dollars both in sales and (optimistically) profit relative to the media outrage if they came in and cleaned house, so they're going to continue to subsidize this shitshow for the foreseeable future.

As best I can tell, the last time Disney really got involved with Marvel's operations was in 2015 when Marvel Studios split from Marvel Entertainment and became a direct report subsidiary to Disney's home office. And that was at least in part because Kevin Feige threatened to walk.

Still, would love to be a fly on the wall if stuff like these tweets are ever brought up at a meeting of executives.

I actually tried to suss out Marvel Entertainment and DC Comics's finances from their 10-ks once, and I couldn't do it. The comics business is such a minuscule part of both DIS and TWX they're basically lumped into an "other" category in segment reporting, with all the other floating turds. You try separating out Disney Stores from Marvel Entertainment sometime. Because that's where it is stuck in their financials. IIRC I couldn't even figure out which segment DC Comics was in. Maybe in Other, maybe as a tiny tail on the much larger dog that is the DCEU for movies.

Also, Comixology is such a small part of AMZN's business it wasn't even mentioned in the last set of financials I looked at. My guess is they roll the whole thing into Kindle sometime. And also kind of gives lie to the claim people make of "Muh electronic sales!" as being of such importance. Doesn't seem like AMZN cares much about it.
 
Long screenshot, always archive or cap everything, preferably both. I am about to get on a flight in a couple hours, and Archive.is is always finicky with me for some reason, so I'll do it when I land.
Love how she decides to bring up the 90s comic crash that was pretty much all Marvel's fault, but then makes it clear that she has no fucking clue as to why it occurred.

No you idiot, a "lack of diversity" didn't cause the crash, it was flooding the market with tons of overpriced bullshit through pandering to the speculator market with constant relaunches to #1 issues and gimmick announcements playing as though they'll shake up the status quo with big events and crossovers only to have another event change everything back. Considering Marvel is still doing all of that in top of screaming at the retailers and customers about how bigoted they are for not wanting to buy this crap, everyone at Marvel has shown that they haven't learned a goddamn thing from the 90s crash other than they can treat their reader-base with giggling contempt and the lead editors don't have to worry about the rest of the market so long as they have Disney for a sugar daddy. But that same protection isn't going to be extended to all the hipsters passing for editors, writers, and artists; they don't even seem to realize that if the comics division ever gets to be more trouble than it's worth, then people who have connections (real connections, not this "Oh my editor and my writer have brunch together" nonsense) like the EiC are gonna get shuffled into the Marvel Studio division with their animated stuff or TV shows no one cares about - like what happened with Joe Kelly & Jeph Loeb - while their asses are gonna be kicked to the curb. Hell, I'm pretty sure the only reason most of these people still get work despite starting drama wherever is solely because off their willingness to work for peanuts. (I recall Kate Leth mentioning the Marvel rates were actually lower and that scripts at Marvel only go for $30 a page, but she frequently purges her Twitter on a bi-weekly basis so a lot of her lolcow moments can be hard to track)

And, again, this "the industry is a small place" threat doesn't mean that your peers agree with you; just that they've learned to keep their heads down and not say anything publically - as seen by the insiders who have admitted in private that places like Marvel and IDW are shitshows. And this '"oh we warn people about bad apples!" doesn't seem to do a whole lot of good when you had people like the aforementioned Eddie Berzanga operating for years, the insane woman who ran Archie Comics who was so toxic interns were recommended not to make eye contact if they saw her coming, or even just the current batch of terrible people working as creators who get a free pass because they're a woman/black/trans/vegan/whatever.

None of these chucklefucks seem to realize that they're the massive "problem children" that pretty much no other industry would want to deal with; the only reason it flies with comics is because their editors and managers were also problem children who wriggled in through comic blogging by schmoozing up to writers.

I wonder what the suits at Disney (parent of Marvel Entertainment) and Time Warner (parent of DC) think of this dumpster fire? I'm guessing they've figured it just isn't worth getting involved given the small dollars both in sales and (optimistically) profit relative to the media outrage if they came in and cleaned house, so they're going to continue to subsidize this shitshow for the foreseeable future.

As best I can tell, the last time Disney really got involved with Marvel's operations was in 2015 when Marvel Studios split from Marvel Entertainment and became a direct report subsidiary to Disney's home office. And that was at least in part because Kevin Feige threatened to walk.

Still, would love to be a fly on the wall if stuff like these tweets are ever brought up at a meeting of executives.

I actually tried to suss out Marvel Entertainment and DC Comics's finances from their 10-ks once, and I couldn't do it. The comics business is such a minuscule part of both DIS and TWX they're basically lumped into an "other" category in segment reporting, with all the other floating turds. You try separating out Disney Stores from Marvel Entertainment sometime. Because that's where it is stuck in their financials. IIRC I couldn't even figure out which segment DC Comics was in. Maybe in Other, maybe as a tiny tail on the much larger dog that is the DCEU for movies.

Also, Comixology is such a small part of AMZN's business it wasn't even mentioned in the last set of financials I looked at. My guess is they roll the whole thing into Kindle sometime. And also kind of gives lie to the claim people make of "Muh electronic sales!" as being of such importance. Doesn't seem like AMZN cares much about it.
Some people, especially a lot of these nuMarvel creators, like to claim that the reason all these diverse legacy characters and race bends are absolutely necessary because they're using the comics as testing grounds for new IPs for future film and Netflix projects. But even if that weren't total bullshit given the parent companies give so little of a shit that they don't even bother to separate comics in their finances, the vast majority of these comics have failed, and failed hard. So hard in fact that the second Ike Perlmutter was out of the picture, the plans for an Inhumans movie mysteriously vanished, and that Captain Marvel movie keeps getting pushed back.

Who in their mind is going to look at crap that failed even harder like America Chavez or Squirrel Girl or Ironheart and go "Well the comics didn't sell, but if we sink hundreds of millions of dollars into this then surely it'll work as a film!" It makes even less sense for DC considering they have dozens of stories that are considered iconic that have yet to be adapted that would be more likely to draw a bigger crowd than that black Power Girl no one remembers.
 
Last edited:
Who in their mind is going to look at crap that failed even harder like America Chavez or Squirrel Girl or Ironheart and go "Well the comics didn't sell, but if we sink hundreds of millions of dollars into this then surely it'll work as a film!"

Aw, c'mon. The whole world is hoping for a Carl Manvers themed edit: Ms. Captain Marvel movie. Or so Twitter tells me. Doubtless a spiky haired blonde bulldyke is just what the Chinese market is looking for.
 
Back