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It could work if he's trusted with the money being used for that purpose. The Pop Quiz Hotshot debacle doesn't inspire much confidence in that though...
TGWTG "Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et al - The Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Doug Still Not That Funny
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Very subtle, PC way to say "Fuck Mike Michaud".The Last Angry Nerd said:
For most people yes, but remember that a shitton of his fans just put fingers in their ears and ignore the whole scandal. Even though their YT channel is hemorrhaging subscribers, it didn't put a dent in their view count.
Besides maybe I'm a cynic, but I think when the whole thing quiets down and CA returns to its default obscurity, most of their remaining viewers will forget about the whole thing, or at least focus on selected issues, like Michaud's mismanagement or Ellis' predatory behaviour, ignoring anything else (like the embezzlement that you've mentioned).
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After Demo Reel, I think Doug is reluctant to take chances doing anything besides Nostalgia Critic.
If he sold it as "Nostalgia Critic 2.0: Independence Day" he wouldn't be lying if he spent it on whatever as long as he kept putting out NC.
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Nah, they could have easily just said their bit back when it actually mattered. They obviously had money and "fame" on the mind at the time.
They don't need CA anymore so they're using its corpse to advance themselves. They ingratiated themselves with CA until it was no longer necessary.
Continuing the USSR comparison I made earlier:
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At this point they should refigure the website to be solely focused on the Walkers' content (a'la The Cinema Snob and Phelous websites). You can't be a "community" if you only have 3 producers.
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Went ahead and saved a PDF of it. If anyone wants a copy, let me know.
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They could rebrand it. "That Guy With the Glasses" sounds like a good, descriptive name.
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If Dong wants to save it, the best he could do would be to break from Michaud and start an extremely-similar-but-legally-distinct web series. Maybe learn about actual Fair Use and turn it into an autistic screaming version of Half in the Bag.
I could give a shit what Doug does with his Nostalgia Critic shit (haven't watched him since he rebooted it), but it's a suggestion.
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I thought Asalieri was dead, how fitting that he appeared out of nowhere with a video related to the CA scandal.
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Will this have a lasting effect? I dont think so.
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I didn't want to be a part of this because I love the Nostalgia Critic and many other Channel Awesome shows, but I gotta say that Mike Michaud should totally be booted from the whole thing, and either Doug or Rob (preferably Doug) should be the new CEO.
If only it was that easy, though...
If only it was that easy, though...
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At the very least, Channel Awesome could recognize that, awful as they may be, YouTube won, and proceed to use the website accordingly as a backup archive and fan hub.
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That is a good question, what point is there to the Channel Awesome site now? Back then it existed when youtube didnt see the value in reviewers and would just obey strikes
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Still reading it, but this part caught my attention.
The person only mentioned a date of 2008-2009 for work, so I'm assuming this happened sometime after that. But man, Doug just seems to be unable to or isn't allowed to plan ahead.
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I call it shedding dead skin. Their concept of a reviewer network died in spirit when they ceased doing anniversary movies, Blip tanked, producers started to leave, the rise of Patreon made ad clicks less of a threat and CA's simultaneously declining revenue made them less profitable to work for.
As the ex-producers said many times over, it was always about Doug. This drama has finally shattered the fiction that it was anything but. The effects of that aren't to be understated. Materially speaking, losing producers will further dent their revenue and make Michaud and Rob redundant since they have nothing left to manage.
That last point is key. If Channel Awesome dies, it's because there's no more reason for the company to exist.
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Count Jackula, former Channel Awesome contributor and frequent collaborator with the Horror Guru, drops some gossip from his time on the site.
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Haven't watched the video yet, but I checked the comments and found this.
Not entirely sure what the drama is, but this seems interesting.
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Jackula basically says there were assholes on all sides, and it's pretty believable. Linday and the Chez Apocalypse crowd sound like they were pretty combative.
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A lot of people are talking about the views on Doug's latest video and saying it means his popularity won't decline, but it's been like a week and Youtube is not designed for sudden shifts in subscriber count. Remember that most of the kiddies on Youtube don't even check their subscriptions page and only go by recommendations. With so many people leaving CA, their viewers will get less recommendations for the Nostalgia Critic, with people unsubscribing they'll be less likely to be recommended videos from him, and once the controversy dies down the drama whores will stop checking his videos for view counts. Doug was already losing fans, this is just gonna accelerate the process.
Whenever a controversy like this happens, all you gotta do is put out a half-hearted apology, and then the new attention you've got will make up for all the viewers who are still pissed at you. Hell, they'd need to put in less effort than anyone else, since this is all old behind-the-scenes stuff. Doug could come out and say "Hey, I wasn't aware of a lot of these allegations, and for the stuff I messed up I've been trying to improve over the past 5 years or so. I'll talk with Mike about being less of an asshole and communicating better, and try to be less of a spineless autist." He didn't even do that, primarily because he's a spineless autist. Instead Mike decided to fan the flames by putting out the most nothing statement possible. And so subscriptions are gonna keep decreasing until the views start to follow and he's either gonna do something for once or fade deeper into obscurity. It's not gonna be as quick as we might like, it reduces the chance of a big meltdown, but such is life.
Whenever a controversy like this happens, all you gotta do is put out a half-hearted apology, and then the new attention you've got will make up for all the viewers who are still pissed at you. Hell, they'd need to put in less effort than anyone else, since this is all old behind-the-scenes stuff. Doug could come out and say "Hey, I wasn't aware of a lot of these allegations, and for the stuff I messed up I've been trying to improve over the past 5 years or so. I'll talk with Mike about being less of an asshole and communicating better, and try to be less of a spineless autist." He didn't even do that, primarily because he's a spineless autist. Instead Mike decided to fan the flames by putting out the most nothing statement possible. And so subscriptions are gonna keep decreasing until the views start to follow and he's either gonna do something for once or fade deeper into obscurity. It's not gonna be as quick as we might like, it reduces the chance of a big meltdown, but such is life.