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If he becomes a "girl" then he can't rp as a weak and scared shotaI can't believe he's not a full-metal tranny yet.
He is basically the Private Pyle of Twitter.
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If he becomes a "girl" then he can't rp as a weak and scared shotaI can't believe he's not a full-metal tranny yet.
He is basically the Private Pyle of Twitter.
I need to find VF-kun so he can threaten to shove wrong-tetsujin up Clawshrimpy's ass again.So at what point in the cycle does he come back and sperg at us for a while?
Soon, I'm hoping!So at what point in the cycle does he come back and sperg at us for a while?
But why do these types always claim they've been raped, anyways?
HE IS SUCH A FUCKING WHINER, HOLY SHIT. I'm generally very sympathetic to people with mental health issues, because I personally understand what it's like to be in that headspace, but there's a limit. Most people with mental health issues don't complain 24/7 the way Chris does. It's fucking nonstop with this guy. "Oh woe is me, everyone's out to get me, I cry myself to sleep every night, literally nothing is my fault and I'm the world's biggest scapegoat, WAHHHHH"
Even his fucking therapist is tired of his whining, and they're being paid to listen to it.
The fact that Chris claims to have dozens of "harassers/stalkers/abusers" who ruin his life is a big red flag, too. There's a saying that goes "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." I have a very hard time believing that someone who seems to make enemies everywhere he goes is somehow blameless in this.
"Remember all the friends you made, Chris, both IRL and on Facebook.com"
”Some Guy” said:clawshrimpy, malicious philosophers have kidnapped 6 people and tied them to railroad tracks, 5 directly in the path of an oncoming train, 1 on a different branch of track
you notice the situation just as you're walking by a conveniently placed rail switch, and flipping said switch will put the train on a path that will kill 1 person instead of five. you are too far away to untie any of them in time
what do you do?
”Clawshrimpy” said:I try and contact someone who's closer who can get to everyone.
Wait a minute, if I'm close enough to switch the track I'm close enough to untie them.
”Some Dude” said:You don't always get to choose the premises of the question.
I mean, there's a time and a place for thinking outside the box and questioning your assumptions, but this comes across as trying to assume away problems in lieu of having to address the underlying issues.
”Some Dude” said:Least we forget, Shrimpy's response to the euthenasia dilemma was to magically conjure up a convenient cure-all in record time.
Even Superman occasionally has to deal with runaway train problem, come on.
”Clawshrimpy” said:But what I learned from Star Trek and all the other shows I like that that's the opposite from the truth, there are allways opposite solutions, there are always alternatives, there is no situation where you are required to preform evil, that that is a fallacy.
”Some Dude” said:how old are you
”Clawshrimpy” said:Why does that matter?
”Same Dude” said:because to be quite frank you have a simplistic outlook of the world that I would associate with a child.
it honestly seems like you have never made a choice where neither outcome is good and it's a little scary to me to think an adult would be so sheltered
Clawshrimpy said:But killing one person to save 5 is insignifigant to potentially coming up with a way to save everyone.
I'm still better than someone who'll let one person die because I don't want ANYONE to die
Clawshrimpy said:I'm not a monster, in that situation it's no better than being in a situation where saving people at all is impossible and being powerless to do anything about it.
Some Dude said:Actually being in a situation where you can save people's lives is way better than being in a situation where you can't!
Saving people > not saving people. Is this a difficult to understand concept?
Clawshrimpy said:But if you choose to flip the switch you're still not really saving peole because you're comdeming someone to death!
Because interacting with trolls is a good idea. But please do, keep it up. Your idiocy feeds me.I didn't even know shitheads here were talking crap about me until someone on my curiouscat alerted me I was on this place's radar.... once I found out.... I just simply couldn't be quiet about it.
Clawshrimpy said:... But I think more importantly, we're demonstrated just how amoral the Exodus really is, as Gain reveals they'll let sick people die if they slow them down due to lack of medicine or if people get too sick, to use medicine for "mercy killings".
On one hand I do really like this episode for presenting Gainer in a much better light, but on the other hand, it's still kinda hard to root for the heroes when some of them support shit like this. Particularly, as an autistic person, I actually find this to be kind of offensive, if only because of the real life cases of parents and caregivers "mercy killing" their autistic children and all that kinda shit. So now, the sides have flipped, Gainer and Sara have become the likable ones, and Exodus and Gain have suddenly jumped up quite a bit on the unlikability scale for me, if only for hitting a potential trigger of mine. Sure the SIberian Railway are trying to control and tax people and are evil, but at least they're not advocating for mercy killing the sick slowing them down. SO now the show's entered this kind of dark place where both sides are actually really evil in different ways, and the only ones is Gainer and possibly Sara and maybe the princess walking away with any goodness in them. But even Sara and the Princess spend a lot of time in the pro-Exodus camp, but at least Sara came around to Gainer's way of thinking a little. And now, other than Gainer and a few other standing outside of it, the two sides have entered that black on black morality I often describe early Gundam as.
Some dude said:I think Clawshrimpy uses "black on black" to mean "I personally don't sympathize with either side"
As opposed to what it actually means, which would be "absolutely no one except crazy people would sympathize with either side"
Clawshrimpy said:But keep in mind that everyone, including the princess in this episode have been pro-exodus, except for Gainer and maybe Sara starting to come around to way he's thinking. meanwhile everyone else is still siding with Gain despite him sitting there in a restaurant going "Hey we might need to engage in eugenics. It's a good idea."
When all but two characters either agree with a eugenicist like Gain or support the facist tolitarian state that wants to collect on taxes, it really doesn't make me feel too good. I mean, I can appreciate this is a ...... LITTLE happier than Tomino's older stuff but.... I dunno, the eugenics/mercy killing stuff is hard for me to get over.
Like I've went from being pretty okay with Gain to legitimately wanting him to be killed off as fast as possible.
Some Dude said:They're not horrible people though - they're good people considering bad things, either out of desperation due to hard times, or because their lives and circumstances have indoctrinated them to think what we accept as horrible is either necessity or even a good idea. And there is a difference between bad people and good people thinking or doing bad things.
Clawshrimpy said:If it's a question of the resources being thin, they why go out of your way to use some of the medicine to kill the people slowing you down?
This is the dangerous precedent Gain's thinking leads to, a dangerous little thing called "cure culture". What if it doesn't stop at simple resorurce based triage and keeping alive the more "worthy" people (which is still horrible) but what if it opens the same floodgates that leads to the same ableism present in real life? Hypothetically speaking, imagine there was someone on the exodus convoy things who was say, autistic. let's say this someone has a hard time doing anything of "worth" (as fucking disgusted as I am to suggest that) in the eyes of the Exodus leadership, can't hold down a job, can't help prepare food, can't pilot a Silhouette Engine, etc. Gain or someone like him could decide an autistic like them is someone "slowing them down" and use some medicine to end their life because they're so "broken" they can't preform any "useful function". It is unbelievably wrong. Why? Because this horrible shit still happens to neuroatypicals in real life. There was recenly a Disability Day of Mourning to remember those neuroatpicals who died to such ableism. I'm not saying Gain wants to do that, but that's what his dangerous way of thinking can lead. When you're already considering only saving the lives that are "more worthy", cure culture and ableist ideas surrounding eugenics is only a hair's breadth away.
Clawshrimpy said:I'm sorry, but even considering anything approching eugenics makes you a fucking garbage human being
Clawshrimpy said:You might have a point... if "easing suffering" wasn't already used by ableist parents and caregivers as a comfortable euphamism to get Autism Speaks and other ableists to sympathize with them killing their autistic children.
Some Guy said:In a perfect world nobody would ever have to make value calls on which lives to save, but it's not perfect and people have to make choices like that every single day.
Clawshrimpy said:The right thing to do is obvious, try to save everyone. if you don't have enough medicine to go around, do research, try to develop alternatives, give everyone a chance. don't use the medicine you have for mercy killings
”Some dude” said:Can you just stop using the word 'eugenics'? I don't care if that means you stop talking about that particular plot element or call it what it actually is, but it's NOT eugenics.
”Clawshrimpy” said:Fine, cure culture then.
”Some dude” said:what the hell is cure culture
Clawshrimpy said:Hmm, how best to put this, other than to draw reference to what used to be one of my favorite anime, Digimon. (which I strictly watch for irony now, but I still say that there a very few select parts of it that are good. Not many, though.)
In Digimon, whenever a character acted mean or confrontational with their teammates, often it was because they were being tempted by evil digimon if not directly under influence of darkness. It taught me from a young age that you should stive to be good, and any negative thing you feel, anger, dark or evil thoughts, ambition, etc. was evil trying to impose on your soul. While I do admit that aspect of Digimon as a show was very ridiculous at times, but since it was very much my opus anime, it no doubt had no small effect on my views of morality, that when people do bad things, it's evil weighing down on their soul.
Clawshrimpy said:Except I had to deal with more than just being smacked across the face, or be doxxed or put on ED or whatever. What I went through on a daily basis during high school was so much worse than that.
When I saw Gain do that shit to Gainer, or Kamina did what he did to Simon or any of this other "I'm hitting this younger weaker character to make them a MAN" shit, I see the same toxic masculinity that was present when groups of other guys attacked me nearly every single day after school. Because while they also used slurs and shit, they were also telling me to "be a man" or saying the kinda shit Gain or Kamina or Bright would say. On top of the insulting othering language.
And guess what, a lot of them believed they were doing this for my own good, that'd it'd make me a stronger man, and no, I never accepted that bullshit as self-improvement rituals, and I sure as hell not going to give Gain or Kamina or Bright a pass on that.
I think Gainer was right to avoid people, because guess what, that is WHAT I DO EVERY DAY. I don't stand up to people when they say the r-slur or the f-slur in public, I get uncomfortable and leave. because I know if I stand up for myself, I'm recklessly putting myself at risk! I know from fucking experience!
More like Sam Hyde's downs syndrome brother.lol mclovin lookin ass
With a botched nose job.More like Sam Hyde's downs syndrome brother.
Apparently not. He’s been at it forever it seemsDoes this dude just get off on being a total puzsy/drama whore? Like holy shit dude, grow the fuck up.