Plagued Nice Guys

A message that most likely never got a response...
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A message that most likely never got a response...
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You've got to wonder what he hoped to accomplish by making that post.

If the guy's bristling with so much righteous indignation because the target of his initial message never responded, how would he take it if she were indeed to tell him in no uncertain terms why she's not interested? Call me crazy but I don't get the impression that he'd nod thoughtfully and say "You made some good points. Thank you. Next time I decide to approach a woman, I'll remember the advice you've given me today. I wish you the best."
 
This guy probably thought he delivered such a deadly insult to the woman who turned him down. But let's take a look at what his parting shot says about him rather than her...

"I was only ever interested in you for your body and offered to lend you a hand with your job interview because I thought there'd be a strip tease in it for me!"
 

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Several reasons. First off she's quite attractive, but in that Cute Classmate kind of way.

Second is she cultivates that exact image. She plays up the Girl Next Door thing. Other artists like Katy Perry or Ariana Grande have a more sexually charged public image. Swift launched her career with a song about how she's not like that and is a regular girl ("She wears high heels/I wear sneakers..."). Nice Guys absolutely love that kind of personality. Their romantic fantasies always follow the same trope of your tomboyish but pretty best friend realizing you're perfect for her.

Third is Taylor's career is so blighted by messy breakups it's basically a meme now. The idea of this pretty lady who seems like a nice sweet girl who keeps getting her heart broken by JERKS kicks the Nice Guy's white knight mode into overdrive.

Personally, at this point I think Taylor Swift just exaggerates her relationship problems for the sake of her songs. Or she just subconsciously dates assholes. Or she's a freak in her own way and alienates every boyfriend. Probably all three.

Her boyfriends are all beards. Her public relationships are all carefully manufactured to make her seem like a fun loving heterosexual young woman.
 
This guy probably thought he delivered such a deadly insult to the woman who turned him down. But let's take a look at what his parting shot says about him rather than her...

"I was only ever interested in you for your body and offered to lend you a hand with your job interview because I thought there'd be a strip tease in it for me!"
And this is what feminists are referring to when they bitch about male entitlement. Christ, what is up with guys like this who think women owe them something because they did something nice for them?
 
And this is what feminists are referring to when they bitch about male entitlement. Christ, what is up with guys like this who think women owe them something because they did something nice for them?

A lot of these "nice guys" feel entitled for one reason or another- whether that's "but you've been with other people so that means you're easy... wait where are you going you're supposed to fuck me because you're easy", "but you were nice to me and therefore leading me on so you owe me this, bitch" or, the scarier "but I did something for you, so that means you have to repay me in sexual favours or you aren't as grateful as you say you are".

The last one really rubs me up the wrong way. Not only are they so narcissistic that they're only helping someone in the hopes of getting something out of it, but sometimes they'll try to guilt trip the poor woman they're talking to into it because "but if you don't repay me the way I want, you're not grateful at all- I mean fuck saying thank you or doing literally anything else"- using intimidation to get what they want. They're the type of people who will do some petty/insignificant helpful thing (or many insignificant helpful things) for someone, and then hold it over that person's head.

From what we've seen in this thread (and possibly irl if you're unlucky), narcs, like the nice guys featured in this thread, who aren't able to intimidate people into making him/her do what they want get pretty nasty because they can't seem to fathom that someone has the sheer audacity to not play along and do as they say. So what do they do? They shut down completely. Go on their little tirades and think that means they won.

TLDR: Possible narcissism(NPD) and a lot of :autism:
 
This guy probably thought he delivered such a deadly insult to the woman who turned him down. But let's take a look at what his parting shot says about him rather than her...

"I was only ever interested in you for your body and offered to lend you a hand with your job interview because I thought there'd be a strip tease in it for me!"
"I didn't say it was a date, it's just two people hanging out"
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"Give me one date you femicunt!!"
 
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"She got was suddenly way more flirty and touchy.." She was pregnant.

See, the bastard had actually a chance here. She trusted him. He could have told her to keep the child and formalize a relationship so her family would take it easier. But of course not.
 
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"She got was suddenly way more flirty and touchy.." She was pregnant.

See, the bastard had actually a chance here. She trusted him. He could have told her to keep the child and formalize a relationship so her family would take it easier. But of course not.

He's so totally over her, you guys. That's why he's bragging about lying and betraying her over a year after it happened, and knows her relationship status, and somehow knows she's a 'much nicer person' despite her avoiding him like the plague (good for her, by the way!). Sure, Jan.

Also, he lied to and betrayed her, planning it out for MONTHS on how he was going to try to screw her life over, and SHE is somehow the bad guy in this story? What a narcissistic douchebag. If he didn't want to be a 'doormat' he could have just said "No, I won't pay for your abortion, sorry." Easy peasy.

I hope every woman he pursues finds out what an asshole he is sooner rather than later and immediately ghosts him. Or even better, that this 'Nice Guy' is lied to and betrayed in return by someone he trusts. What goes around should come around.
 
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"She got was suddenly way more flirty and touchy.." She was pregnant.

See, the bastard had actually a chance here. She trusted him. He could have told her to keep the child and formalize a relationship so her family would take it easier. But of course not.

Trying to start a relationship by going "hey I'll be the dad to your unwanted baby" when you're in highschool still is a pretty bad way to start one. This guy is a total piece of shit for completely manipulating her and abandoning her at an abortion clinic, but I don't know how you can just walk up to a friend and say "hey I want you to pay for my abortion".

I hope he tells this story to all his future girlfriends though so they know how crazy he is that he would manipulate someone into waiting to take a much riskier and invasive abortion.
 
What are the chances, you think, that she didn't ask him to pay for it, but at most asked if she could borrow money from him? Or if she didn't even ask for money at all? He says later that she had money, that she brought to the clinic, which makes me doubt his claims that he was expected to pay for it.

I mean, these guys are not exactly the most credible story tellers.

There's also the chance that the aborted baby was Albert Einstein
 
Trying to start a relationship by going "hey I'll be the dad to your unwanted baby" when you're in highschool still is a pretty bad way to start one. This guy is a total piece of shit for completely manipulating her and abandoning her at an abortion clinic, but I don't know how you can just walk up to a friend and say "hey I want you to pay for my abortion".

I hope he tells this story to all his future girlfriends though so they know how crazy he is that he would manipulate someone into waiting to take a much riskier and invasive abortion.

I honestly call bullshit on the "she told me to pay for her abortion" bit. He also says she had a good amount saved and "that wasn't a problem"; she could bring 1000$ "just in case", and that the safest option (chemical abortion) was 400-700$.

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How can someone be so oblivious as to confess to fuck up a pregnant girl who is just out of an abusive relationship, who trusted him and probably did have an interest, paint himself as the victim, and say it happened because he was "too nice"...
 
My wager on what really happened:

The Nice Guy was friends with Chad. Chad started dating Nice Guy's silent stalkery crush.

That's it. None of the rest happened. If a Nice Guy had the courage (yes, it takes a certain amount of courage to screw someone over) to do something like that, he'd already have gotten laid.

As it stands, he probably dreamed this all up, and imagined the pregnancy and need for abortion after she was a little bummed over the breakup.
 
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