Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

I'd bet 30 shekels they never saw a menpo in their lives before.
It's a real piece of armor and saying it makes some video game woman a blowup doll is rather funny.
They already addressed that with "NO IT DOES NOT COUNT REEEEEEEEEEEE".

And what kind of blow up doll has jagged teeth?
 
Whether one finds her outfit ridiculous or not, it's entirely justified since due to said character being demon-blooded, her internal temperature is much higher than a human so if she want's to feel more cool and comfortable, she would have to wear the outfit she has. A concept artist also stated the clothing is meant to reflect the fact she lacks wealth and is more or less a person who got the pieces at some point in her life (aside from also saying he wanted to make the outfit because it appeals to him as an artist).

It's not, though. If she didn't want to wear many clothes, she'd wear a loincloth, or nothing at all. The Khmer only wore a simple cloth and were naked from the waist up, for example. Leather bondage gear and bits of spiky metal on limbs look stupid, are hard to make, and are uncomfortable. That pauldron is either strapped on to her bare skin, which would chafe horribly, or not secured by anything, in which case it would fall off. And "lacks wealth"? What poor person can afford to wear random bits of ineffective spiky armour on their limbs, but no helmet? Armour was expensive, and a helmet was the first bit a common soldier would buy - the head's the most important part of the body. Just sell the spiky rubbish and get a kettle hat.

I'm channelling Lindybeige a bit too much here.

None of these outfits are justifiable in any way. That doesn't mean the opposite is true, where everyone has to wear full armour all the time. it's just that the question should be "would anyone ever want to wear that?", not "does it make this female character look attractive?", which seems to be the case here. A historical Khmer woman's outfit, being topless with a skirt and no underwear, would probably make these people furious.
 
It's not, though. If she didn't want to wear many clothes, she'd wear a loincloth, or nothing at all. The Khmer only wore a simple cloth and were naked from the waist up, for example. Leather bondage gear and bits of spiky metal on limbs look stupid, are hard to make, and are uncomfortable. That pauldron is either strapped on to her bare skin, which would chafe horribly, or not secured by anything, in which case it would fall off. And "lacks wealth"? What poor person can afford to wear random bits of ineffective spiky armour on their limbs, but no helmet? Armour was expensive, and a helmet was the first bit a common soldier would buy - the head's the most important part of the body. Just sell the spiky rubbish and get a kettle hat.

I'm channelling Lindybeige a bit too much here.

None of these outfits are justifiable in any way. That doesn't mean the opposite is true, where everyone has to wear full armour all the time. it's just that the question should be "would anyone ever want to wear that?", not "does it make this female character look attractive?", which seems to be the case here.
All I know from reading the Planescape wiki was that the character is some rogue whose race could fit well with edgelords due to somw demonic heritage. The armor appearance more or less got some explanation from a concept artist in that the character just gets bits and pieces of armor at random points in her life. Even then, it's all from a video game where you try to die for good and your companions range from a talking skull and box robot to a living suit of armor and a chaste succubus.

Edit: All that said with the Khmer outfit from older times, if we ever had more shit based off historical clothing styles like women being topless, it could no doubt piss them off.
 
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I find it hard to take seriously characters designed like Tharja because when I see them I just see ass + titties, and I picture a horny game dev designing the character and sweating while trying to justify their decision. It would be like if a woman came up to you on the street in only her panties, you wouldn't be able to keep a straight conversation with her either.

But on the other hand they usually don't appear in forms of media I actually take seriously as stories anyway. I've played Fire Emblem Awakening, fun game but the character stories were a funny side-thing at best. Some of the characters were cute and nice to look at. But none of the characters, male included were actually decent or memorable so you may as well make them look appealing. Those games are designed for horny teenagers anyway, not middle aged women.
 
@Yaoi Huntress Earth and I share a fondness of dismemebring BABD's posts and making them look dumb, sometimes with some humorous insight from @c-no and @Meowthkip. Glad this arrogant fucktard finally has a thread here.

What you may not know is that her much-loved Bingo chart is actually the third revision of it. She re-did it. Twice. Specifically because she's one of those people, who in her worldview, will consider character designs she likes to be fucking sacrosanct, but characters with the same traits from one she hates are fucking below comtempt. One prominent example is Sayaka Miki from Madoka (why does this character keep showing up in these threads) - she spent like five longform posts defending Sayaka's design from Madoka, despite the fact that it still violates around 79% of BABD's chart (and outright is a bingo on the old ones), and is stupidly impractical by all accounts.

She does not care about authorial intent, historical accuracy, or logic. If she likes it, she'll shlick herself raw over it and if she hates it, she'll sperg out to Homer levels over it.
She also aggressively scrubs any criticism she receives that's backed with sources.
 
@Yaoi Huntress Earth and I share a fondness of dismemebring BABD's posts and making them look dumb, sometimes with some humorous insight from @c-no and @Meowthkip. Glad this arrogant fucktard finally has a thread here.

What you may not know is that her much-loved Bingo chart is actually the third revision of it. She re-did it. Twice. Specifically because she's one of those people, who in her worldview, will consider character designs she likes to be fucking sacrosanct, but characters with the same traits from one she hates are fucking below comtempt. One prominent example is Sayaka Miki from Madoka (why does this character keep showing up in these threads) - she spent like five longform posts defending Sayaka's design from Madoka, despite the fact that it still violates around 79% of BABD's chart (and outright is a bingo on the old ones), and is stupidly impractical by all accounts.

She does not care about authorial intent, historical accuracy, or logic. If she likes it, she'll shlick herself raw over it and if she hates it, she'll sperg out to Homer levels over it.
She also aggressively scrubs any criticism she receives that's backed with sources.

That Bingo chart is all she has.

How very, very sad.
 
EDIT-what really grinds my gears is when the armour is still useless shit even after it's been edited so not to inflame mens passions and maintain her purity.
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She was better off in the skimpy shit since that's at least cooler reducing the chance of heat exhaustinon while it's totally failing to protect your body.
What stands out to me about this particular edit is that this one especially, while I'm not extremely familiar with the source material, seems to make a lot of arbitrary changes that clash with other design choices that seem there to serve as a cohesive aesthetic as well as inform in the personality.

While the original design doesn't look particularly stellar to me (I'm kinda confused by the weird tied front for the shirt and the number of belts is giving me war flashbacks to FF10) the tears in the clothing and asymmetrical armor and accessory placement come off as being a rather important details to her personality. They give the impression of a character who struggles, and is possibly failing, to hold themselves together and based on the huge fuck-off demonic arm I'm guessing that she has some sort of inner turmoil having to do with in some form possessing dark powers.

I see no reason why BABD felt like they had to remove those elements by not including any such tears in the pants they put on her, lengthening the torn shirt despite it being pointless due to the pants, removing the one belt that actually functioned for holding up her pants, and switching the belt and shin armor to opposite legs for any reason other than :autism:.
 
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What stands out to me about this particular edit is that this one especially, while I'm not extremely familiar with the source material, seems to make a lot of arbitrary changes that clash with other design choices that seem there to serve as a cohesive aesthetic as well as inform in the personality.

While the original design doesn't look particularly stellar to me (I'm kinda confused by the weird tied front for the shirt and the number of belts is giving me war flashbacks to FF10) the tears in the clothing and asymmetrical armor and accessory placement come off as being a rather important details to her personality. They give the impression of a character who struggles, and is possibly failing, to hold themselves together and based on the huge fuck-off demonic arm I'm guessing that she has some sort of inner turmoil having to do with in some form possessing dark powers.

I see no reason why BABD felt like they had to remove those elements by not including any such tears in the pants they put on her, lengthening the torn shirt despite it being pointless due to the pants, removing the one belt that actually functioned for holding up her pants, and switching the belt and shin armor to opposite legs for any reason other than :autism:.

You guessed every single reason the design was supposed to be shorthand for their character without even knowing the source.

Which is good, as you immediately grasped the true intent of the art as intended by the artist.

However, the BABD prudes just see exposed female skin they don't like and tune out any logic behind the design in favor of their triggers and what offends them.
 
@Yaoi Huntress Earth and I share a fondness of dismemebring BABD's posts and making them look dumb, sometimes with some humorous insight from @c-no and @Meowthkip. Glad this arrogant fucktard finally has a thread here.

What you may not know is that her much-loved Bingo chart is actually the third revision of it. She re-did it. Twice. Specifically because she's one of those people, who in her worldview, will consider character designs she likes to be fucking sacrosanct, but characters with the same traits from one she hates are fucking below comtempt. One prominent example is Sayaka Miki from Madoka (why does this character keep showing up in these threads) - she spent like five longform posts defending Sayaka's design from Madoka, despite the fact that it still violates around 79% of BABD's chart (and outright is a bingo on the old ones), and is stupidly impractical by all accounts.

She does not care about authorial intent, historical accuracy, or logic. If she likes it, she'll shlick herself raw over it and if she hates it, she'll sperg out to Homer levels over it.
She also aggressively scrubs any criticism she receives that's backed with sources.
Let's see this character...

Thigh-high footwear, heels, short skirt, her top exposes a bit of her bellybutton, there's nothing holding up the top, it looks a little bit like boobplate with how the underboob is shaded, she'd have cleavage if he breasts were bigger, no head protection, and why do the Madoka characters have no damn jawbones?
 
@Yaoi Huntress Earth and I share a fondness of dismemebring BABD's posts and making them look dumb, sometimes with some humorous insight from @c-no and @Meowthkip. Glad this arrogant fucktard finally has a thread here.

What you may not know is that her much-loved Bingo chart is actually the third revision of it. She re-did it. Twice. Specifically because she's one of those people, who in her worldview, will consider character designs she likes to be fucking sacrosanct, but characters with the same traits from one she hates are fucking below comtempt. One prominent example is Sayaka Miki from Madoka (why does this character keep showing up in these threads) - she spent like five longform posts defending Sayaka's design from Madoka, despite the fact that it still violates around 79% of BABD's chart (and outright is a bingo on the old ones), and is stupidly impractical by all accounts.

She does not care about authorial intent, historical accuracy, or logic. If she likes it, she'll shlick herself raw over it and if she hates it, she'll sperg out to Homer levels over it.
She also aggressively scrubs any criticism she receives that's backed with sources.

She's changing the chart to defend Sayaka of all things? Wow. Nice to see the hypocrisy.

Everyone else is wrong about this character but as soon as people call them out it's okay to throw out all my previous logic down the window!


Just to make things clear for those of you who don't know, the whole point about Sayaka is that she is a FOIL to the main character, Madoka. She is dressed like a typical magical girl-knight character to subvert the happy-go-lucky heroine who always believes in justice and all that bullshit. The whole point of her design is to show how superficial and naive that mentality is. And that is explored in the series. She doesn't even belong on the damn list to begin with. She's literally meant to be an archetype and people are mad? Compared to other magical girl series her design is one of the more conservative ones too.
 
She's changing the chart to defend Sayaka of all things? Wow. Nice to see the hypocrisy.

Everyone else is wrong about this character but as soon as people call them out it's okay to throw out all my previous logic down the window!


Just to make things clear for those of you who don't know, the whole point about Sayaka is that she is a FOIL to the main character, Madoka. She is dressed like a typical magical girl-knight character to subvert the happy-go-lucky heroine who always believes in justice and all that bullshit. The whole point of her design is to show how superficial and naive that mentality is. And that is explored in the series. She doesn't even belong on the damn list to begin with. She's literally meant to be an archetype and people are mad? Compared to other magical girl series her design is one of the more conservative ones too.

Your avatar reminds me: She fucking hates Shantae.

Like holy shit she hates Shantae, and even by her standards goes out of her way to miss the fucking point.
 

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I love how she brings culture into this. Because based on a couple of theories, Shantae is possibly based off Turkey. (A lot of the game's geography and aesthetic lines up especially in the newer games). I put in one search result for Turkish Belly Dancer and lo and behold:

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Very similar to Shantae's outfit. Only it's stylized immensely. Yeah Shantae shows more skin, but so do the dancers depending on the scenario. Acting like belly-dancers are NEVER sexy or wear revealing clothing is nonsense. Here's one of the more risky ones I could find.

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And here's one of Shantae's special outfits that increase her magic but lowers her defense:

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It's not that far off. The gameplay for this particular outfit literally enforces that by decreasing Shantae's defense, but increasing her magic skill. And the game mechanic makes sense too. Many bellydancers specialize in a type of dance that's very sensual, passionate, and intense. It requires a lot of effort and reveals a lot of skin because the dancers need to move a lot and don't need tight fitting clothing. If you don't believe me still here's a video by Gajin Goomba about it. Plenty of Turkish people in the comment section gave it their approval as being true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemwPSepdqo

Basically, Shantae is not a "sexualization" of belly-dancing, she's a homage and is very stylized to fit the theme of the games. Plus, everyone is drawn in a weird sexy style. So basically, it's perfectly normal in-universe to be like that. They live in a very hot climate so it makes sense to wear less clothes.

These people who are acting like cultural purists are really fucking pathetic. Thinking a game about a bellydancer is somehow invalidating their culture is really awful too. NO ONE is going to play Shantae and think that belly-dancers are all exotic genies. And if they do, they're fucking idiots. The game actually goes beyond and above to pay homage to the Turkish aesthetic and it does a really fantastic job adding in fantasy elements as well. This person really needs a wake up call. There have always been sexy woman in real life who use belly-dancing to express themselves. To think this game will change that shows how fragile your ego is.
 
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I love how she brings culture into this. Because based on a couple of theories, Shantae is possibly based off Turkey. (A lot of the game's geography and aesthetic lines up especially in the newer games). I put in one search result for Turkish Belly Dancer and lo and behold:

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Very similar to Shantae's outfit. Only it's stylized immensely. Yeah Shantae shows more skin, but so do the dancers depending on the scenario. Acting like belly-dancers are NEVER sexy or wear revealing clothing is nonsense. Here's one of the more risky ones I could find.

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And here's one of Shantae's special outfits that increase her magic but lowers her defense:

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It's not that far off. The gameplay for this particular outfit literally enforces that by decreasing Shantae's defense, but increasing her magic skill. And the game mechanic makes sense too. Many bellydancers specialize in a type of dance that's very sensual, passionate, and intense. It requires a lot of effort and reveals a lot of skin because the dancers need to move a lot and don't need tight fitting clothing. If you don't believe me still here's a video by Gajin Goomba about it. Plenty of Turkish people in the comment section gave it their approval as being true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemwPSepdqo

Basically, Shantae is not a "sexualization" of belly-dancing, she's a homage and is very stylized to fit the theme of the games. Plus, everyone is drawn in a weird sexy style. So basically, it's perfectly normal in-universe to be like that. They live in a very hot climate so it makes sense to wear less clothes.

These people who are acting like cultural purists are really fucking pathetic. Thinking a game about a bellydancer is somehow invalidating their culture is really awful too. NO ONE is going to play Shantae and think that belly-dancers are all exotic genies. And if they do, they're fucking idiots. The game actually goes beyond and above to pay homage to the Turkish aesthetic and it does a really fantastic job adding in fantasy elements as well. This person really needs a wake up call. There have always been sexy woman in real life who use belly-dancing to express themselves. To think this game will change that shows how fragile your ego is.

See, now I was just gonna go and point out that it's a series that also has this guy.

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