The Opioid Crisis - What's going to happen with the opioid problem? Is it more prevelant or are we more aware?

I suspect it is now epidemic because it affects suburban communities. Statistically, in the 70's, heroin user was typically middle age, urban, African American.

Now average heroin user is low 20's, white woman from suburbs.

What is interesting to me is there is move to focus on treating addicts, but slamming dealers. This is impossible because most dealers are addicts and most addicts will middle for deals to make money/get drugs. There is no clear drug pusher/innocent user divide. You must go up the drug supply chain a couple of levels before you hit people involved that are not also addicts.
 
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I suspect it is now epidemic because it affects suburban communities.

It affected suburban communities as well as cities since the beginning. Idk why exactly it gets more attention now. Perhaps the 24/7 news cycle? I really can't say with any certainty.

Statistically, in the 70's, heroin user was typically middle age, urban, African American.

Completely untrue. In the 1960's, the hippie community as well as average young people were heavily exposed to pills and especially heroin. Ask someone from that generation about it sometime and see what they tell you.

Now average heroin user is low 20's, white woman from suburbs.

Also false. It's probably more of an epidemic in the poor/lower middle class black communities now than it ever was before. It has been spreading out into the suburbs since the late 1960s/1970s, and hasn't really stopped. Though the most out of control use is still concentrated in urban areas.

This is impossible because most dealers are addicts and most addicts will middle for deals to make money/get drugs.

The dealers aren't addicts, typically. Though you are correct that the addicts will do a little scheming and hustling when they're trying to get loaded, but this isn't the same as being a dealer.
 
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Also false. It's probably more of an epidemic in the poor/lower middle class black communities now than it ever was before. It has been spreading out into the suburbs since the late 1960s/1970s, and hasn't really stopped. Though the most out of control use is still concentrated in urban areas.

There are effectively three separate groups of "typical" opiate abusers.

1) The heroin-only group tended to be the most socioeconomically disadvantaged, were more likely to be minorities, had more physical problems, and more likely to live in large urban communities. They were also more likely to have gotten in trouble with the law. Typically they did not get started through abusing medication. While their numbers have increased, its been the smallest amount statistically over the last decade in the US.

2) Those who used both heroin and prescription pain killers. They tend to report more mental health problems and were more likely to visit the ER than either of the other groups due to overdose. People in this group were also most likely to have started using drugs in their teens and experience more severe substance problems overall. This is the group that is causing the most concern among political leaders in the US because they occur in previously "safe" or "drug free" communities.

3) The group who only used prescription painkillers. They are more likely to be married or employed, are the least socioeconomically disadvantaged and have less criminal justice involvement. They don't typically have the same mental, physical, and social problems of the other two groups and are least likely to live in large urban areas.

The largest group of drug abusers is group 3, but they receive the least attention. Group 1 is the one people imagine when they speak of opiate abuse, but they are the smallest population of users.

The major gateway to heroin now is abuse of prescription drugs.

One needs to have access to healthcare to get prescribed opiates. The way the US government pays for drugs mean that people on Medicaid are less likely to get prescriptions (US government is not allowed to negotiate for drug prices under this program so drugs are much more expensive). Under Medicare and the Veteran Administration, the government can negotiate with pricing of drugs.

We see this played by the fact that disabled vets and older people are prescribed opiates at a much higher rate than poor people. This in turn could explain why opiate abuse is higher among those two groups, per surveys performed by various government agencies, compared to younger, poor people. But to be clear, poor addicts are typically starting with heroin, whereas more middle and upper class users start with medication and then move onto heroin because of the costs in maintaining the addictive behavior.

Also false. It's probably more of an epidemic in the poor/lower middle class black communities now than it ever was before. It has been spreading out into the suburbs since the late 1960s/1970s, and hasn't really stopped. Though the most out of control use is still concentrated in urban areas.
Your perspective here is not supported by statistical reports by researchers. There has been a major generation and social shift between the average heroin user between different decades. Per dealers not typically being addicts, your perspective is akin to having a weed man that doesn't smoke weed. I am not saying that all peoples involved in illicit drug trade are addicts. The risks involved in being a low level dealer effectively means that only desperate people tend to do it. Once you go further up the supply chain, addicts are no as common.

These are just my opinion of course, but if you do a search for research by governments in EU and the US, much of their research aligns with my thoughts on this matter.
 
The rural area uptake is from over prescription whether from idiocy or criminality of the doctors and the below is not an isolated case in my opinion/experience. Apparently nobody at the DEA could be bothered to get off their arse for a few years.

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/...cle_ef04190c-1763-5a0c-a77a-7da0ff06455b.html

Over the past decade, out-of-state drug companies shipped 20.8 million prescription painkillers to two pharmacies four blocks apart in a Southern West Virginia town with 2,900 people, according to a congressional committee investigating the opioid crisis.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee cited the massive shipments of hydrocodone and oxycodone — two powerful painkillers — to the town of Williamson, in Mingo County, amid the panel’s inquiry into the role of drug distributors in the opioid epidemic.

“These numbers are outrageous, and we will get to the bottom of how this destruction was able to be unleashed across West Virginia,” said committee Chairman Greg Walden, R-Ore., and ranking member Frank Pallone Jr., D-N.J., in a joint statement.

The panel recently sent letters to regional drug wholesalers Miami-Luken and H.D. Smith, asking why the companies increased painkiller shipments and didn’t flag suspicious drug orders from pharmacies while overdose deaths were surging across West Virginia.

The letters outline high-volume shipments to pharmacies over consecutive days and huge spikes in pain pill numbers from year to year.

Between 2006 and 2016, drug wholesalers shipped 10.2 million hydrocodone pills and 10.6 million oxycodone pills to Tug Valley Pharmacy and Hurley Drug in Williamson, according to Drug Enforcement Administration data obtained by the House Committee.
 
I'm not convinced that people choosing to take pills is a crisis.

When you have Rheumatoid arthritis and the steroids only help you walk, but the opioid are the only thing that relieve the pain, you might change your mind.

I don't take any opioid, but I understand why they are prescribed and how people can easily get addicted to them unless the doctor is careful to manage that.

It really is out of control.
 
can anyone explain to a non americam how this opiod crisis started?

I know when I first come to US, the strange thing to me is constant TV commercials with drugs. Oxycodone was first synthesized in Germany. Hitler was a prominent user, much like Meth (ze Germans made many new drugs in the prior WWII period). My understand is that there is a very large drug company Perdue in the US that created Oxycotine. The selling point was it was slow release and non-addictive compared to other opiates. It was claimed the drug was effective over 12 hours, but it turns out it is not.

Drug company did not want people to purchase more dosages per day (this is because it would potentially affect insurance companies willingness to pay premium over older drugs that Perdue did not have exclusive patent on). Instead, they instructed doctors and insurance companies to increase the dosage, under the argument that they are less addict long term or something.

So people getting prescribed higher and higher dosages because a 12 hour pill would only last four to six hours.

Perdue was making mad bank. I think they closed closed to $36 billion the year drug came out. But now they are getting sued for covering up research they had showing their claims of long lasting and non-addictive nature being bullshit.

So Oxy, seeing as being safe, gets prescribed for lots of shit. On top of this, many communities with former industries, like steel mills, local workforce out of work. So they go on disability. Old millwrights/electricians/etc usually worked hurt so doctors prescribe them drugs. Next thing you know, community has lots of addicts, no real jobs.

Pills are expensive. Eventually people realize that heroin is a lot cheaper than pills, especially as pills get redesigned with additives to prevent intravenous using.
 
When you have Rheumatoid arthritis and the steroids only help you walk, but the opioid are the only thing that relieve the pain, you might change your mind.

I don't take any opioid, but I understand why they are prescribed and how people can easily get addicted to them unless the doctor is careful to manage that.

It really is out of control.
So people in pain are taking pain killers. Still not seeing the crisis.
 
So people in pain are taking pain killers. Still not seeing the crisis.

The crisis is when the people in pain taking painkillers stop breathing.

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/information-sheet/en/

Opioid overdose
Due to their effect on the part of the brain which regulates breathing, opioids in high doses can cause respiratory depression and death. An opioid overdose can be identified by a combination of three signs and symptoms referred to as the “opioid overdose triad”. The symptoms of the triad are:

  • pinpoint pupils
  • unconsciousness
  • respiratory depression.
Combining opioids with alcohol and sedative medication increases the risk of respiratory depression and death, and combinations of opioids, alcohol and sedatives are often present in fatal drug overdoses.

Because of their capacity to cause respiratory depression, opioids are responsible for a high proportion of fatal drug overdoses around the world. The number of opioid overdoses has increased in recent years, in part due to the increased use of opioids in the management of chronic non-cancer pain1. In the United States of America alone in 2010, there were an estimated 16 651 deaths due to overdose on prescription opioids and 3036 due to overdose on heroin."
 
A lot of people taking opioids aren't in pain, at least not physically. Their pain is the hopelessness and despair brought on by deindustralization. If you look at the places where opioids are the biggest issue, it's the parts of the US that have always been on the precipice of crippling poverty and have finally fallen off the cliff into a spiral of death.
 
The only thing that will stop the opioid epidemic is a painkiller that isn't addictive and is as effective as opiates. Until that happens, this will continue. This has been an issue since civil war vets started robbing pharmacies for morphine.
 
Current opiate crisis stems from 2 big things:

1. Purdue Pharma, owned by the (((Sackler))) family aggressively marketed Oxycontin, lied to doctors and labeled it as an "abuse resistant" drug. Specifically targeted it to working class communities, people in factories and in construction who got minor back injuries were being given this stuff like candy.

2. Until 2017 it was legal, in China, to advertise and export an opiate drug called Carfentanil. They were openly telling drug dealers in the US how to import it without being caught. The drug itself is very cheap to produce, much cheaper than Heroin, and 5 thousand times as potent. As a pusher you could make a ton of money importing this stuff from China and cutting it. But if you sold the pure stuff and someone consumed it? OD and death regardless of their opiate tolerance. This happens all the time and police now have to be extra cautious when dealing with unknown powdered drugs, because many have OD'd by accident on contact. Carfentanyl or a similar Fentanyl derivative was actually used as a chemical weapon by the Russians during the 2002 Moscow Theater hostage crisis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolokol-1#Carfentanil
 
Synthetics like Oxy actually seem more addictive than straightforward morphine. It's a complete disconnect in prescribing habits between anaesthetists/pain specialists and other doctors - managed appropriately, morphine itself is a pretty clean drug, whereas the synthetics are horrors. The initial success of oxy was a triumph of marketing because there was already a controlled-release morphine and its been around long enough to be well out of patent so generics are available. Many pain-relieving drugs are really just reinventing the wheel then selling it as a new, shiny transportation device to doctors who are warned about the dangers of the opioids but don't have the specialist knowledge, and obviously its in pharmaceutical business interests to keep docs prescribing new, patented meds. No big conspiracy, just the free market.

But from outside the US, something I find very strange is how readily really serious painkillers are prescribed. For instance, Fatboy Assanti built up an addiction through getting Dilaudid in the ER for non-specific leg pain (he weighed 700lbs +) and on his 600lb Life episode this was recorded. Dilaudid is rarely used where I am, but you wouldn't even get morphine here for non-specific pain. It's impossible to generalise from one case, but over and over discussion of the opioid crisis often seems to start with pain meds that wouldn't be considered here, or would only be given very short-term. I'm not saying we're better - we're absolutely not; even with one of the most painful syndromes known to medicine a patient will only get the heavy opioids after every other option is exhausted (and then the pain specialists will stay away from things like oxy in favour of straight morphine) - but the opioid crisis is almost the perfect storm with every factor contributing.

Doctors want to help, overly-strong shots are given in busy ERs to "hold" someone claiming massive pain and the free market rules dictate the meds that are prescribed - pharma companies have to make up R&D money within a limited timespan so they make bloody sure THEIR pill is the first one docs think of, whether it be for pain, depression or sunburn. The gateway is opened, then societal and socio-economic factors do the rest. But the alternative is witholding opiates to patients who may not get any other pain relief, so its understandable medics jumped on this supposed addiction-free synthetic which was heavily pushed to over-ride their initial reluctance. I think the medical establishment WANTED to believe the claims made about oxy because, if true, it answered the dilemma of only giving strong opiates to terminally ill patients - in other words, pain relief if you're dying but if not, live with it. Either way, until as @Secret Asshole said, until we find an alternative there's no mid-ground - either patients don't get adequate pain relief, or they are set on a road to addiction.
 
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The depressing thing is that opiates are terrible for long term pain management. Any amount taken long enough results in declining effectiveness. Many times chronic pain suffers will describe their symptoms from not getting their meds and they do not realize they are describing classic withdrawal symptoms.

To be fair, that's a lot of drugs. That's just tolerance. The problem is that chronic pain or opiods for surgery last several months and then are suddenly stopped or not stopped properly. That's when the addiction comes in full force because your body has been relying on those meds for months on end.

Its all about homeostasis. Our body runs on a basic default. If you push towards pain relief, your body pushes towards pain. The more you push towards pain relief, the more your body pushes back. So you're basically going back and forth with your body, fighting to get back to 'regular'. Of course, by several months in, 'regular' is massively increased doses. Then when you stop those doses, your body pushes towards 'pain' as hard as it can, since it assumes you're going to be taking those high, potent doses. That's when you get the severe withdrawal symptoms and pain as well. Its also why withdrawal effects are often times opposite of what the drug is. Its your body pushing back.

Synthetics like Oxy actually seem more addictive than straightforward morphine. It's a complete disconnect in prescribing habits between anaesthetists/pain specialists and other doctors - managed appropriately, morphine itself is a pretty clean drug, whereas the synthetics are horrors. The initial success of oxy was a triumph of marketing because there was already a controlled-release morphine and its been around long enough to be well out of patent so generics are available. Many pain-relieving drugs are really just reinventing the wheel then selling it as a new, shiny transportation device to doctors who are warned about the dangers of the opioids but don't have the specialist knowledge, and obviously its in pharmaceutical business interests to keep docs prescribing new, patented meds. No big conspiracy, just the free market.

If you look at the history of opiods, every opiod after morphine was marketed as less addictive than morphine. Oxy was marketed this way as well.

Also, nobody looked at non-opioid pain relievers because opioids were so fucking profitable and worked just well enough, there was no money in it. You also had the fact that the medical establishment did not believe 'proper use' of opoids was actually addictive, which was pushed by pharmaceutical companies. Like, the hick on the street in his trailer snorting oxy and the oxy that the 90 year old with the hip replacement were taking would have different addictive effects, because the 90 year old was taking it 'properly'.

This wasn't done based on any sort of science, but by way of lots and lots and lots of fucking money. And that's why we have an opioid crisis. Because we have people who just love to profit off of human misery. Its a crisis because people want money, and they don't care who dies in the process. This has been going on for decades, but we're hearing about it now because more than poor people are dying from it, the children of the rich are dying too. But there's also a lack of motivation because the opioid epidemic largely affects rural white trash, where bodies pile up so high they run out of room in the morgue because people are now cutting oxy with fentanyl, which is supposed to be dermal use only for pain management and use as an anasthetic when injected, which is why you die so easily from it.
 
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To be fair, that's a lot of drugs.

It is amazing what humans can become addicted to as a coping mechanism. I cannot seem to find the story online, but there was an article I once read of people being addicted to water intoxication. They would consume so much water which causes their electrolytes to go nuts. It would create euphoric feelings. But it is extremely dangerous. The article talked of a specific treatment center for this with waterless toilets because initially the patients would consume water from the bowls.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-excess/201601/can-you-be-addicted-water

I wish I have better link.
 
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