Culture San Francisco is dirty

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Diseased-Streets-472430013.html

How dirty is San Francisco? An NBC Bay Area Investigation reveals a dangerous mix of drug needles, garbage, and feces throughout downtown San Francisco. The Investigative Unit surveyed 153 blocks of the city – the more than 20-mile stretch includes popular tourist spots like Union Square and major hotel chains. The area – bordered by Van Ness Avenue, Market Street, Post Street and Grant Avenue – is also home to City Hall, schools, playgrounds, and a police station.

As the Investigative Unit photographed nearly a dozen hypodermic needles scattered across one block, a group of preschool students happened to walk by on their way to an afternoon field trip to city hall.

“We see poop, we see pee, we see needles, and we see trash,” said teacher Adelita Orellana. “Sometimes they ask what is it, and that’s a conversation that’s a little difficult to have with a 2-year old, but we just let them know that those things are full of germs, that they are dangerous, and they should never be touched.”

In light of the dangerous conditions, part of Orellana’s responsibilities now include teaching young children how to avoid the contamination.


'There’s Poop in There'

“The floor is dirty,” said A’Nylah Reed, a 3-year-old student at the preschool, who irately explained having to navigate dirty conditions on her walks to school.

“There is poop in there,” she exclaimed. “That makes me angry.”

Kim Davenport, A’nyla’s mother, often walks her daughter to the Compass preschool on Leavenworth Street in San Francisco. She said she often has to pull her daughter out of the way in order to keep her from stepping on needles and human waste. “I just had to do that this morning!”

The Investigate Unit spent three days assessing conditions on the streets of downtown San Francisco and discovered trash on each of the 153 blocks surveyed. While some streets were littered with items as small as a candy wrapper, the vast majority of trash found included large heaps of garbage, food, and discarded junk. The investigation also found 100 drug needles and more than 300 piles of feces throughout downtown.


Dried Feces can Lead to Airborne Viruses

“If you do get stuck with these disposed needles you can get HIV, Hepatitis C, Hepatitis B, and a variety of other viral diseases,” said Dr. Lee Riley, an infectious disease expert at University of California, Berkeley. He warned that once fecal matter dries, it can become airborne, releasing potentially dangerous viruses, such as the rotavirus. “If you happen to inhale that, it can also go into your intestine,” he said. The results can prove fatal, especially in children.

Riley has researched conditions across the poorest slums of the world. His book titled, “Slum Health,” examines health problems that are created by extreme poverty.


San Francisco Compared to Some of the Dirtiest Slums in the World

Based on the findings of the Investigative Unit survey, Riley believes parts of the city may be even dirtier than slums in some developing countries.

“The contamination is … much greater than communities in Brazil or Kenya or India,” he said. He notes that in those countries, slum dwellings are often long-term homes for families and so there is an attempt to make the surroundings more livable. Homeless communities in San Francisco, however, are often kicked out from one part of town and forced to relocate to another. The result is extreme contamination, according to Riley.


'We Aren’t Addressing the Root Cause'

“Unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable,” said Supervisor Hillary Ronen. “We're losing tourists. We're losing conventions in San Francisco. All of this is happening because we aren't addressing the root cause, which is we need more temporary beds for street homelessness.”

Ronen believes San Francisco has been too focused on permanent housing for the homeless and that the city has neglected to provide enough temporary shelter, which can provide the homeless a respite from the streets. The city currently has about 2,000 temporary beds. Ronen, however, believes an additional 1,000 are needed, at a cost of about $25 million.

“We need to find a source of revenue,” said Ronen. “Whether that's putting something on the ballot to raise business taxes or taking a look at our general fund and re-allocating money towards that purpose and taking it away from something else in the city.”


San Francisco Spends $30 Million Cleaning Feces, Drug Needles

Until the problem is fixed, Mohammed Nuru, the Director of the Public Works Department, is charged with the towering task of cleaning the streets, over and over again. “Yes, we can clean, he said, “and then go back a few hours later, and it looks as if it was never cleaned. So is that how you want to spend your money?”

The 2016-2017 budget for San Francisco Public Works includes $60.1 million for “Street Environmental Services.” The budget has nearly doubled over the past five years. Originally, that money, was intended to clean streets, not sidewalks. According to city ordinances, sidewalks are the responsibility of property owners. However, due to the severity of the contamination in San Francisco, Public Works has inherited the problem of washing sidewalks. Nuru estimates that half of his street cleaning budget – about $30 million – goes towards cleaning up feces and needles from homeless encampments and sidewalks.


'Human Tragedy' in San Francisco

A single pile of human waste, said Nuru, takes at least 30 minutes for one of his staffers to clean. “The steamer has to come. He has to park the steamer. He's got to come out with his steamer, disinfect, steam clean, roll up and go.”

Asked if he’d be willing to give up part of his budget and allocate it to more directly addressing the homeless problem – which would likely alleviate his cleaning problem – Nuru said, “The Board of Supervisors, the mayor – those are decisions that they need to make." He added, “I want to continue cleaning and I want to be able to continue to provide services. The Public Works Department provides services seven days a week, 24 hours a day.”

Ronen acknowledges that finding the money to provide 1,000 additional beds for the homeless may very well take years. The city is planning on opening three new Navigation Centers for homeless people by the summer, but two centers will also be closing.

“We're not going to make a huge dent in this problem unless we deal with some underlying major social problems and issues,” she said. “There's a human tragedy happening in San Francisco.”
 
I love this city but it is a shithole. The homelessness is utterly ridiculous here. If the city government's estimation from a few years ago of about ~7k homeless people is accurate (it's probably double that) there's roughly 140 homeless people per square mile here. And it's really hard to feel sympathy for these people, both because of that thing where doctors stop being able to care about people after witnessing so much tragedy, and because they mostly are actually insane and, if not threatening, at least seemingly bad people.

We recently passed a law banning tents on the street–hasn't changed a damn thing. Japantown (which is directly adjacent to Africatown) has these nice bridges where you can walk over them to get to the other side of the street, except you can't because there's people living in tents all along them. We spend so much on public transit but you wouldn't want to use it, the buses are dirty, all smell like piss, and all have a few belligerent homeless on them. Golden Gate Park would be nice, if it weren't for the abject human misery on display everywhere you turn your head.

The way that the supposedly "progressive" city government only cares about virtue signaling and being a "sanctuary" is sickening. For big government leftists who want to control your life in every other way, they sure don't want to do anything to control the problem of mentally ill people who can't take care of themselves living dirty excuses for lives on the dirty streets like dirty animals. I don't care what they do, lock them all up in prison, bring back involuntary mental institutions, give them all free housing, kill them, whatever. Things can't continue the way they are.
 
I love this city but it is a shithole. The homelessness is utterly ridiculous here. If the city government's estimation from a few years ago of about ~7k homeless people is accurate (it's probably double that) there's roughly 140 homeless people per square mile here. And it's really hard to feel sympathy for these people, both because of that thing where doctors stop being able to care about people after witnessing so much tragedy, and because they mostly are actually insane and, if not threatening, at least seemingly bad people.

We recently passed a law banning tents on the street–hasn't changed a damn thing. Japantown (which is directly adjacent to Africatown) has these nice bridges where you can walk over them to get to the other side of the street, except you can't because there's people living in tents all along them. We spend so much on public transit but you wouldn't want to use it, the buses are dirty, all smell like piss, and all have a few belligerent homeless on them. Golden Gate Park would be nice, if it weren't for the abject human misery on display everywhere you turn your head.

The way that the supposedly "progressive" city government only cares about virtue signaling and being a "sanctuary" is sickening. For big government leftists who want to control your life in every other way, they sure don't want to do anything to control the problem of mentally ill people who can't take care of themselves living dirty excuses for lives on the dirty streets like dirty animals. I don't care what they do, lock them all up in prison, bring back involuntary mental institutions, give them all free housing, kill them, whatever. Things can't continue the way they are.

Give them shitty dormitories and put them to cleaning the street. If they don't want to do it, import russian policemen who are happy to use the baton.
 
Used needles and human feces are found littering downtown San Francisco as infectious disease expert warns the area is becoming dirtier than some slums in India and Brazil
  • A recent investigation found 100 drug needles and more than 300 piles of feces on a 153 block area of downtown San Francisco
  • Infectious disease expert Dr Lee Riley told NBC Bay Area that the streets are getting dirtier than some slums in Brazil, Kenya and India
  • City Supervisor Hillary Ronen said the issue goes back to the city's homeless problem
  • She says that too much of the focus has been on finding the homeless permanent housing
  • If the city had more temporary beds in shelters, the homeless would be off the streets and not leaving behind such a mess
journalists recently conducted a survey of 153 blocks of downtown San Francisco and found trash on every street.

Trash bags and litter are one problem, but the report found that used needles and human feces are also common sights downtown - even near upscale hotels, government buildings and in playgrounds.

In total, the journalists found 100 drug needles and more than 300 piles of feces during their investigation.

If stuck by a used needle, one can be infected with diseases like HIV or Hepatitis. Fecal matter is also not just a smelly nuisance. As it dries, the germs become airborne and if inhaled, can prove deadly - especially for children.

Confronted with the findings of the report, infectious disease expert Dr. Lee Riley told the station that the streets of San Francisco are getting worse even than the slums of developing countries.

'The contamination is… much greater than communities in Brazil or Kenya or India,' the UC Berkeley professor said.

Riley pointed out that slums in the countries mentioned are used as long-term housing for poor people, many of whom make an attempt to keep at least their homes and surroundings livable.

But the homeless who live on the streets of downtown San Francisco are routinely being kicked from one encampment to the next, and therefore, don't feel a sense of obligation to clean up after themselves.

This results are 'extreme contamination,' Riley told the outlet.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5413551/Drug-needles-feces-line-streets-San-Francisco.html
 
Are there plenty of public toilets and needle disposal facilities available in those 153 blocks (less than 1 needle per block doesn't sound all that bad to be honest)?

Temporary shelters don't solve the problem, and may even attract more homeless to the city.
 
I've lived a few places where you'd walk a block and crunch up half a dozen crack vials because the ground was littered with them everywhere. I have only rarely seen actual used fucking needles lying around full of AIDS-infected blood. At least I assume the kind of subhuman who leaves a used needle on the ground probably does have AIDS. That's some serious third world shit right there.
 
Is there honestly a single sane person left in the entire state of California anymore? If it's not the homeless turning an entire city into a literally toilet and doing nothing to improve themselves or the place around them (due to handouts by the local government and from enablers that give into their panhandling all for that warm fuzzy feeling of "helping those in need", thus giving them zero incentive to work), its:

Berkeley getting wrecked anytime anyone to the right of Marx himself steps foot there (even if the place deserves it since I'm positive the first college safe spaces started there),
The State now allowing people to spread an incurable illness to others without their knowledge and only get a slap on the wrist at worst for it,
Half the goddamn state catching on fire every year because the woodlands have that strange little tendency to spontaneously combust when it gets too dry,
Mudslides that destroy half a town because only California thinks it's a great idea to build their overpriced houses under, on top and on the sides of the hills when it gets too wet,
Hollywood and everyone from there or plain people that are somehow drawn into that hellhole in general,
etc etc etc

The only people I can ever think of that would ever want to voluntarily live in California at this point are people that are too crazy or too poor or some combination of both to leave.
 
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I have to say I lived on the east coast for some time, in Boston, in another large-ish city, and spent lots of time in NYC and the homeless problem did not seem nearly as bad as it is here on the west coast. I have been on the west coast for several years now, (not in San Francisco) and even just this year it is getting noticeably worse as the weather is getting warmer. And the homeless people are getting AGGRESSIVE. Just since it started getting warmer I've probably been approached by some crazy homeless person more times than I would in a year or two in those other two places. I understand it's a warmer climate here but even year over year it is getting worse. There are needles everywhere, I've seen people shooting drugs in a public park in the middle of the day in the open, washing a needle in a water fountain in the same park, some addict I know has multiple times found needles with drugs still in them just lying around. It's fucked up. In the past I've found homeless people to mostly shit themselves and do nothing, but more recently they are downright scary, walking around and screaming at people and shit. Just the other day I saw one who was following this random black guy around downtown, screaming and throwing things at him for no reason. And it seems like no one is doing anything.
 
I have to say I lived on the east coast for some time, in Boston, in another large-ish city, and spent lots of time in NYC and the homeless problem did not seem nearly as bad as it is here on the west coast. I have been on the west coast for several years now, (not in San Francisco) and even just this year it is getting noticeably worse as the weather is getting warmer. And the homeless people are getting AGGRESSIVE. Just since it started getting warmer I've probably been approached by some crazy homeless person more times than I would in a year or two in those other two places. I understand it's a warmer climate here but even year over year it is getting worse. There are needles everywhere, I've seen people shooting drugs in a public park in the middle of the day in the open, washing a needle in a water fountain in the same park, some addict I know has multiple times found needles with drugs still in them just lying around. It's fucked up. In the past I've found homeless people to mostly shit themselves and do nothing, but more recently they are downright scary, walking around and screaming at people and shit. Just the other day I saw one who was following this random black guy around downtown, screaming and throwing things at him for no reason. And it seems like no one is doing anything.

Short of moving the homeless somewhere else and building a wall around the city to ensure they don't come back, what is supposed to be done about it and by whom?
 
Short of moving the homeless somewhere else and building a wall around the city to ensure they don't come back, what is supposed to be done about it and by whom?

Time for some good ol' fashioned street cleaning, and when I mean cleaning I mean some night sticks and tasers. There is showing some decency for your fellow man, then there are those who will take advantage of your kindness and those are the ones who need to fuck off so that it doesn't turn everyone jaded and cynical
 
I can't believe anyone who saying it's worse than 3rd world countries. What they're describing doesn't sound any worse than parts of North Philly or Newark I've been in. The kind of places they're talking about have open sewers running through shanty towns full of tents and 3 walled, corrugated tin shacks. It doesn't compare. Packs of feral dogs own the streets at night in those kinda places. Packs large enough to put a rifle squad on edge.
 
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