Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[LagoonaBlue]

famous

 

[usernames can change now!]

I never dreamed I would be famous enough to have so many people frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to say something to me. I'm incredibly humbled, guys, this thread does amazing things for my ego.

well you weren't getting there on the merits of your content

 

[PlasticOwls]

I never dreamed I would be famous enough to have so many people frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to say something to me. I'm incredibly humbled, guys, this thread does amazing things for my ego.

 

[LN 910]

Destiny looks like an Ed Edd 'n' Eddy character with about as much growth.

 

[gobbogobb]

Lol if that's your standards for fame DSP is like Beyonce to your Carrot Top.

 

[Faggot Gift]

I never dreamed I would be famous enough to have so many people frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to say something to me. I'm incredibly humbled, guys, this thread does amazing things for my ego.

Lol sure faggot, is this the point you run off weeping to your 15 year old girlfriend for a BJ? Be sure to give her enough time to find your 2 incher in the dark.

 

[LN 910]

You're being a bit generous with his penis size, unless you're talking about his height in which case that's spot on.

 

[Heckler1]

"famous enough to have a thread". He seems to misunderstand and his massive ego (the only thing big about him) is getting in the way of reality. He's just another tard at the special Olympics here.

 

[Nobunaga]

I never dreamed I would be famous enough to have so many people frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to say something to me. I'm incredibly humbled, guys, this thread does amazing things for my ego.

 

[Emperor Julian]

I never claim my stuff is the apex of academic discourse. But understand that the people that are huge on YT now for politics are engaging at an even more basic level. People like Dave Rubin, for instance, have a less than high school understanding of the topics they preach. He can't even defend basic "free speech" type ideas in an auditorium against incredibly simple questions.

I see this accusation a lot, the reason why I don't respond is because there's nothing here for me to engage with. Most people who say that I "gish gallop" cannot provide even a single example of me doing so. In fact, I specifically say at the beginning of almost every debate, "if I say something you disagree with, stop me immediately and we can address that point instead of letting me ramble on."

Fuentes, for instance, is someone who genuinely employs the gish gallop technique as part of his arguments, and I can provide concrete examples of this. He also believed I was constantly talking over him in the debate and many people seem to agree that I was the one gish galloping him.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KrKFr4Bz0h0k7Ldo6YUWBr64-9z7d0T6yb5vyGtT-yg/edit

A fan actually ran through this debate. Ironically enough, Nick spoke for -twice- as long as I did.

This is why I get irritated when people claim I do stuff without ever giving an example of me doing it. This is where debates like the Masterson debate come from - just another person showing up to make accusations at me without ever giving a concrete example of me doing something they accuse me of doing.
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Your work isnt meerly lowbrow it's actually detremental to dialogue, visceral cosumption for the cretinous to keep them crentinous. You're not bringing these people to account you're only producing a comparitable form of brainless shit for your perspectives which in turn tacitly validates being a dumb fuck regardless of were you stand. In terms of referance it's like trying to justify fox news because the huffington posts exists.

Or vice versa for that matter

In terms of citing specific work by work examples of the gish gallop is tricky because your entire spiel is the gish gallop, if you're debating you're usually doing it, an endless stream which your opponent has to try and dismantle before the next roll it's actually easier for me to cite occasions when you're not doing it. Combined with your manner it must be an absolute chore to speak with you.

this of coarse raises the question of if it counts as a gallop if you're always just that way.

 

[DavieCrockerJump]

I never dreamed I would be famous enough to have so many people frothing at the mouth with the opportunity to say something to me. I'm incredibly humbled, guys, this thread does amazing things for my ego.

Even John Wayne Gacy was famous once. Not sure you understand what "frothing at the mouth" entails but observe your fans when someone makes a video critical of you and you'll get an idea.

Your work isnt meerly lowbrow it's actually detremental to dialogue, visceral cosumption for the cretinous to keep them crentinous. You're not bringing these people to account you're only producing a comparitable form of brainless shit for your perspectives which in turn tacitly validates being a dumb fuck regardless of were you stand. In terms of referance it's like trying to justify fox news because the huffington posts exists.

Or vice versa for that matter

In terms of citing specific work by work examples of the gish gallop is tricky because your entire spiel is the gish gallop, if you're debating you're usually doing it, an endless stream which your opponent has to try and dismantle before the next roll it's actually easier for me to cite occasions when you're not doing it. Combined with your manner it must be an absolute chore to speak with you.

this of coarse raises the question of if it counts as a gallop if you're always just that way.

Engaging with Destiny in a meaningful discussion is pointless. He's a sperglet whose claim to fame was playing vidya well once upon a time. If anything I just want to stick around to see what happens when he gets permanently banned from Twitch and there's no longer a demand for his type of content.

 

[seb092]

Even John Wayne Gacy was famous once. Not sure you understand what "frothing at the mouth" entails but observe your fans when someone makes a video critical of you and you'll get an idea.


Engaging with Destiny in a meaningful discussion is pointless. He's a sperglet whose claim to fame was playing vidya well once upon a time. If anything I just want to stick around to see what happens when he gets permanently banned from Twitch and there's no longer a demand for his type of content.

I say let the short stack sperg out here. It is the only place he has left now that the skeptics and other bottom feeders have had their fill of him. I mean once he loses a debate he gets his 12 year olds to dox and sperg out at the person he lost to. Now we are all he has left. Quite poetic don't you think? Using scummy tactics and he gets to live out his remaining e fame days with us. In 5 years nobody will care or know Destiny. He will just be another streamer on the pile and his "pull" with twitch as he likes to brag about will fade.(I mean what esport has he even won in the last 3 years? I don't even remember him being mentioned) I think he will become another Mundane Matt where he has 2 or 3 hardcore watchers and the rest just troll and mock him.

 

[AZ 594]

Engaging with Destiny in a meaningful discussion is pointless.

Yea, and asking him questions here, he'll only answer if he has an easy way to spin it in his favor. He ignored questions about the Charity promise, ignored people bringing up him planning to murder a kid, ignored people asking him to apologies to @Feline Darkmage , and ignored people bringing up that "Ethical CP" argument he made on Kumite. All this is because he knows those things make him look bad so he'll ignore them.

 

[Destiny]

Your work isnt meerly lowbrow it's actually detremental to dialogue, visceral cosumption for the cretinous to keep them crentinous. You're not bringing these people to account you're only producing a comparitable form of brainless shit for your perspectives which in turn tacitly validates being a dumb fuck regardless of were you stand. In terms of referance it's like trying to justify fox news because the huffington posts exists.

Or vice versa for that matter

In terms of citing specific work by work examples of the gish gallop is tricky because your entire spiel is the gish gallop, if you're debating you're usually doing it, an endless stream which your opponent has to try and dismantle before the next roll it's actually easier for me to cite occasions when you're not doing it. Combined with your manner it must be an absolute chore to speak with you.

this of coarse raises the question of if it counts as a gallop if you're always just that way.

So this line

" In terms of citing specific work by work examples of the gish gallop is tricky because your entire spiel is the gish gallop"

is a pretty clear indication that you have no idea what a gish gallop is. I guess I kind of figured, I see so many people throwing it around now, it's unlikely many know what it even means, they're just repeating it because they heard it elsewhere.

Yea, and asking him questions here, he'll only answer if he has an easy way to spin it in his favor. He ignored questions about the Charity promise, ignored people bringing up him planning to murder a kid, ignored people asking him to apologies to @Feline Darkmage , and ignored people bringing up that "Ethical CP" argument he made on Kumite. All this is because he knows those things make him look bad so he'll ignore them.

I've addressed almost all of these, lol. No one produced any images of me calling someone a nigger in SC2. Some random images have been linked from my chat room, maybe you don't know the difference? The kid thing was already addressed in my Naked Ape response video, and I have no fucking idea who Feline is. The Ethical CP thing has already been addressed, at length, in a variety of places elsewhere. If you honestly think I'm pro CP then you have no desire to engage with anything I've ever said, which is pretty much par for the course for your lot, anyway.

 

[seb092]

So this line

" In terms of citing specific work by work examples of the gish gallop is tricky because your entire spiel is the gish gallop"

is a pretty clear indication that you have no idea what a gish gallop is. I guess I kind of figured, I see so many people throwing it around now, it's unlikely many know what it even means, they're just repeating it because they heard it elsewhere.

Sorry we don't speak munchkin here.

 

[gobbogobb]

Here's a definition: it's throwing tons of arguments at your opponent with no care whter they are good or not so they have neiter the time nor the resources to refute each one. Then when they miss something you claim victory because they didn't refute every single piece of bullshit you threw along with any potential rational arguments.

Really bad analogy cuz I'm buzzed: it's sorta like the wookie defense but you pepper on some real arguments to really fuck up the other guy.

Or we could just use you as a case study.

 

[AZ 594]

No one produced any images of me calling someone a nigger in SC2. Some random images have been linked from my chat room, maybe you don't know the difference?

This is what we call "Moving the Goalpost", Steven. You said if someone could point to an example of you saying nigger, you'd pay up. You could be doing some good helping those midgets with that cash, and apparently you have lots of that, so why not make a donation?

 

[gobbogobb]

See also the asymmetrical nature of bullshit

We generally aren't going to waste our time refuting every piece of crap you produce because you aren't worth the effort.

It's like the giant dude holding the midget at Bay by putting a hand on his head. Sure he could break the little guy in half, but why bother.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I'll copy/paste the same reply I did to someone who actually DM'd me this question, if you're genuinely curious -

(part of this includes quotes from their post so you understand what I'm responding to)

>So why don't you do that in your thread? If you go low effort it just paints you worse than a bunch of internet forum loser people.

I've engaged with these types of people before. No one cares about what's true about anything, it's all about slandering a person you don't like for whatever reason. I have wasted so much time trying to "change people's minds" using fact vs fiction and I've learned over the past 1-2 years that it's a total waste of time. It's one of the huge reasons why I'd taken a step back from doing online debate stuff: people care about narratives, not anything remotely true.

>You've been really cagey about me and a few of the others saying the ethical CP stuff you've said is just as weird as the lolicon people, and you frame that as defending lolicon &/or being into it.

Because I'm literally in the thread as only a bad faith actor, I'm only there to get a rise out of people because it's funny to me. Do you honestly think if I spent an hour in that thread answering questions honestly it wouldn't just be a ton of people repeating the same, regurgitated bullshit before/after? Literally 90% of that thread's info about me is (easily) verifiably false. I've done long-form content debunking a ton of the shit that people spread about me and none of it even matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egoyHzHn8Xk

(end response to that person)

tl;dr when I got into "internet debating" years ago I thought it'd be really fun to test arguments/philosophy against other people in order to root out the "truest" to reality argument. What ended up happening was people taking small clips of everything I've said out of context to construct these elaborate strawmen that have little to do with any of my actual beliefs, ie: unironically suggesting I am pro child-porn because of a 20 second clip taken from a 2 hour debate where I argue in the affirmative for age of consent laws against Amos Yee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uw9NWF7Z6w

Also I don't feel the need to "prove my wit" here, I know I'm witty because I made a somewhat decent career online being witty. You can chalk it up to "internet dickriders" etc...or whatever you want, but where I succeeded literally hundreds of thousands of others fail. If you want, you can say that I'm not really funny at all, but then you'd have to admit that I grew my audience on the shoulders of my superior gameplay, and I don't think either of us want to defend that proposition.

Witty my ass. 12-year-olds and yuppies aren’t exactly known for their discerning taste.

 

[seb092]

See also the asymmetrical nature of bullshit

We generally aren't going to waste our time refuting every piece of crap you produce because you aren't worth the effort.

It's like the giant dude holding the midget at Bay by putting a hand on his head. Sure he could break the little guy in half, but why bother.

That is half the fun man. Him thinking he can do the rapid fire argument shit here. Nobody here is taking him seriously, the manlet thinks he is "owning" us by posting messages. This is his jail sentence, to talk to us. We are the only people he has left. In the end he is another manlet on stilts claiming the high ground on a shithole forum like this. It is all fun for me to fuck with the manlet. I know my posts get to him as he has not come up with a snarky retort to them yet. I think he is 10 sizes to small and can't reach the shelf.