Trashfire Internet Bloodsports Aftermath - The neverending Mexican drama of wannabe e-celebs and their detractors

Cool, you hate pedos like everyone, I'm just pointing out that you claim it was not Tonka's dox whn it was

Alrighty, I just don't think it matters at all. Like, its completely irrelevant. It isn't going to make a dent in blood sports or Tonka's popularity, 90% of the chat was calling Zoom a pedo. Nobody cared.

This stream was like mainling pure autism over shit that didn't matter.

y'all are too angry right now, please use that energy to give zoom a thread if he needs one.

Zoom really deserves one, but I wouldn't even know where to begin and I'm not sure that's a rabbit hole I really want to explore myself.
 
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Having listened to this shit show all the way through it still don't understand one thing.
Does zoom understand that wrestling is fake ? Is he still a mark for hulkamania?
I think zoom cant distinguish between wrestling the sport and "pro-wrestling" and doesnt understand amateur wrestling =/= amateur pro wrestling
 
I dropped out after listening to Zoom screaming in his high-pitched faggot voice about pro wrestling in a way that shows:

1. He has no idea how the indie scene works
2. He has no idea what pro wrestling is and somehow thinks that big time shit like WWE is not fake compared to "amateur wrestling" in backyards
3. He is dumb as fuck and throws in jabs at people on the Internet to random insurance company reps as he larps on call

Okay, so Tonka is an Internet tough guy loser. Here's the thing, though. Anyone with half a brain had already figured that out. Zoom's autistic screeching over that and a one inch difference in his height just showed how petty he is over Internet drama bullshit and how much he is willing to blow things out of proportion.

All the revelations and evidence amounted to nothing. I think that the 6 hour stream can likely be summed up as:
Tonka and Failure are larping Internet tough guys who yell over people
The BYR people get yelled over a lot, I can barely remember what they said
Zoom is an annoying faggot who screams for hours about people on the Internet who were mean to him and will fact check insignificant shit that was self-evident to fuel his autistic rage
Joachim is as much of a faggot as Zoom, except he desperately wants to convince people he's done nothing wrong when obviously he has
(Also Joachim wins the award for most pedophile accusations, with Zoom coming in second for that "Tonka's dad" screed)
Ralph is fat
Andy just wants to play PS4
Jim dealt with wanting to kill himself for 6 hours for the big shekels
Did I miss anything?
 
After opting out at the 2 hour mark of the stream last night, I decided I'd finish watching it this morning and just... wow. It's literally nothing but retarded "adults" shouting over each other incoherently. I didn't even know who tf half these people are and I'd like to keep it that way. Kudos to Metokur tho because that faggot is swimming in the super chats. Still can't believe someone tipped him 100dollaridoos for this shitshow.
 
I dropped out after listening to Zoom screaming in his high-pitched faggot voice about pro wrestling in a way that shows:

1. He has no idea how the indie scene works
2. He has no idea what pro wrestling is and somehow thinks that big time shit like WWE is not fake compared to "amateur wrestling" in backyards
3. He is dumb as fuck and throws in jabs at people on the Internet to random insurance company reps as he larps on call

Okay, so Tonka is an Internet tough guy loser. Here's the thing, though. Anyone with half a brain had already figured that out. Zoom's autistic screeching over that and a one inch difference in his height just showed how petty he is over Internet drama bullshit and how much he is willing to blow things out of proportion.

All the revelations and evidence amounted to nothing. I think that the 6 hour stream can likely be summed up as:
Tonka and Failure are larping Internet tough guys who yell over people
The BYR people get yelled over a lot, I can barely remember what they said
Zoom is an annoying faggot who screams for hours about people on the Internet who were mean to him and will fact check insignificant shit that was self-evident to fuel his autistic rage
Joachim is as much of a faggot as Zoom, except he desperately wants to convince people he's done nothing wrong when obviously he has
(Also Joachim wins the award for most pedophile accusations, with Zoom coming in second for that "Tonka's dad" screed)
Ralph is fat
Andy just wants to play PS4
Jim dealt with wanting to kill himself for 6 hours for the big shekels
Did I miss anything?


You're retarded. Tonka never said he worked in the indie scene, he originally claimed he worked with the WWE. Then he claimed he fought MMA, and was 3-0. Even at the amateur level, it's logged on tapology and it would require a permit for a venue even at a bar. It's explained here http://www.alabamaadministrativecode.state.al.us/docs/acomm/165-X-3.pdf even at an Amateur level licenses are still required for any serious ring and cage level fights. It's the same for the 3 other states he claimed he fought out of.

No one was fixated on his height besides failure and tonka, I was simply pointing out that it's the same video Destiny linked. Which he lied about which was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPm_8a_ziM.

If you look at the date of the comments, they're the same date as the destiny stream. Destiny specifically called him out for being in a car and doing an interview and lying about his height. There's literally only one single video of that 'fighter name' ever doing an interview in a car. He lied about that, I also asked him specifically https://youtu.be/A0opTMige2I?t=2h44m39s 'Is this him' multiple times and finally failure breaks down and says 'of course it's him what's your point' i immediately wanted to move on to the video but failure and tonka wanted to stall.

Jim made me censor the majority of the video, because Tonka was crying in dms to him. I have his actual name, I posted his stepdads obit where he confirmed it was him on stream and he's so stupid you could google his wrestler name+ obituary and his stepdad and grandfathers obits come up. It lists his mom, and his sister who he both had friended on his 'wrestler facebook' all failure did was lie for Tonka and scream and try to avoid the fact that Tonka's wrestling name, as well as his legal name were never on any local cards. Because he wrestled for leagues that didn't require licenses at the time. He did the majority of his fights in Alabama and Georgia and Tennessee. I called those commissions specifically to see if he had been on any cards. Tonka explains in a stream he was a host on, where they're reviewing the division that the states he fought in required licenses for the venues after the commisions were established and a lot of guys he knew had to 'hang up their tights' along with him and his entire persona is fake and his entire career was bs. You look up his 'wrestling' career and it's all fake and you talk to the people who run the old wrestling leagues he wrestled in on youtube and they all make fun of him. I don't know how he can brag to destiny about his belts when he won 12 matches and lost every match from 2012-2014 and then quit.

No one ever said wrestling was real, we were making fun of the fact that he admitted it's fake to destiny and then threatens people online with an imaginary mma career. I honestly don't know what you guys expected, when Failure and Tonka immediately started screaming when I brought up that video and then admitted it was Tonka. You can look into the entire wrestling persona he brags about it and there's a long trail of former wrestlers and promoters in alabama calling him a liar and a fake.
 
3 hours 22 minutes
The truest thing said in this whole shit show
Tonka - " who is my friend in real life ?"

He wouldn't be the first pro wrestler to use his work name in real life situations.

True but generally it's because their ring names have some sort of recognition so it's free promotion or sign all boosting a cause. At the end of the day no one gives a shit about reading/hearing about Allan Jones but swap out his real name and people give a shit about A J Styles but at the end of the day obituaries and tragedies are usually the point kayfabe ends.
 
You're exceptional. Tonka never said he worked in the indie scene, he originally claimed he worked with the WWE. Then he claimed he fought MMA, and was 3-0. Even at the amateur level, it's logged on tapology and it would require a permit for a venue even at a bar. It's explained here http://www.alabamaadministrativecode.state.al.us/docs/acomm/165-X-3.pdf even at an Amateur level licenses are still required for any serious ring and cage level fights. It's the same for the 3 other states he claimed he fought out of.

No one was fixated on his height besides failure and tonka, I was simply pointing out that it's the same video Destiny linked. Which he lied about which was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPm_8a_ziM.

If you look at the date of the comments, they're the same date as the destiny stream. Destiny specifically called him out for being in a car and doing an interview and lying about his height. There's literally only one single video of that 'fighter name' ever doing an interview in a car. He lied about that, I also asked him specifically https://youtu.be/A0opTMige2I?t=2h44m39s 'Is this him' multiple times and finally failure breaks down and says 'of course it's him what's your point' i immediately wanted to move on to the video but failure and tonka wanted to stall.

Jim made me censor the majority of the video, because Tonka was crying in dms to him. I have his actual name, I posted his stepdads obit where he confirmed it was him on stream and he's so stupid you could google his wrestler name+ obituary and his stepdad and grandfathers obits come up. It lists his mom, and his sister who he both had friended on his 'wrestler facebook' all failure did was lie for Tonka and scream and try to avoid the fact that Tonka's wrestling name, as well as his legal name were never on any local cards. Because he wrestled for leagues that didn't require licenses at the time. He did the majority of his fights in Alabama and Georgia and Tennessee. I called those commissions specifically to see if he had been on any cards. Tonka explains in a stream he was a host on, where they're reviewing the division that the states he fought in required licenses for the venues after the commisions were established and a lot of guys he knew had to 'hang up their tights' along with him and his entire persona is fake and his entire career was bs. You look up his 'wrestling' career and it's all fake and you talk to the people who run the old wrestling leagues he wrestled in on youtube and they all make fun of him. I don't know how he can brag to destiny about his belts when he won 12 matches and lost every match from 2012-2014 and then quit.

No one ever said wrestling was real, we were making fun of the fact that he admitted it's fake to destiny and then threatens people online with an imaginary mma career. I honestly don't know what you guys expected, when Failure and Tonka immediately started screaming when I brought up that video and then admitted it was Tonka. You can look into the entire wrestling persona he brags about it and there's a long trail of former wrestlers and promoters in alabama calling him a liar and a fake.
If you’re the real Zoom could you kindly go bathe in acid. Hell I’d even throw Tonka in too if the tub could fit both of you sad whales.
 
And I'm listening atm and some faggot keeps screaming "Cuck! Cuck! You're a cuck! You got cucked!" over and over. These faggots had just gotten into "chan culture" like a year ago, huh.
Well, when you see these guys having that much fun, you kind of feel an urge to be a bit like them. I don't think much about it, but now that you say it these guys seem to always end up Bakedalasking.

because if you are pretend to be that, you're ruining your own life because if that shit gets out, you're done. That's how fucking dumb you are.
Yep, these people seem to believe themselves to be untouchable. And how they sperg when their ops succeed and can't convince people they were just joking is quite the show.
 
You're exceptional. Tonka never said he worked in the indie scene, he originally claimed he worked with the WWE. Then he claimed he fought MMA, and was 3-0. Even at the amateur level, it's logged on tapology and it would require a permit for a venue even at a bar. It's explained here http://www.alabamaadministrativecode.state.al.us/docs/acomm/165-X-3.pdf even at an Amateur level licenses are still required for any serious ring and cage level fights. It's the same for the 3 other states he claimed he fought out of.

No one was fixated on his height besides failure and tonka, I was simply pointing out that it's the same video Destiny linked. Which he lied about which was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPm_8a_ziM.

If you look at the date of the comments, they're the same date as the destiny stream. Destiny specifically called him out for being in a car and doing an interview and lying about his height. There's literally only one single video of that 'fighter name' ever doing an interview in a car. He lied about that, I also asked him specifically https://youtu.be/A0opTMige2I?t=2h44m39s 'Is this him' multiple times and finally failure breaks down and says 'of course it's him what's your point' i immediately wanted to move on to the video but failure and tonka wanted to stall.

Jim made me censor the majority of the video, because Tonka was crying in dms to him. I have his actual name, I posted his stepdads obit where he confirmed it was him on stream and he's so stupid you could google his wrestler name+ obituary and his stepdad and grandfathers obits come up. It lists his mom, and his sister who he both had friended on his 'wrestler facebook' all failure did was lie for Tonka and scream and try to avoid the fact that Tonka's wrestling name, as well as his legal name were never on any local cards. Because he wrestled for leagues that didn't require licenses at the time. He did the majority of his fights in Alabama and Georgia and Tennessee. I called those commissions specifically to see if he had been on any cards. Tonka explains in a stream he was a host on, where they're reviewing the division that the states he fought in required licenses for the venues after the commisions were established and a lot of guys he knew had to 'hang up their tights' along with him and his entire persona is fake and his entire career was bs. You look up his 'wrestling' career and it's all fake and you talk to the people who run the old wrestling leagues he wrestled in on youtube and they all make fun of him. I don't know how he can brag to destiny about his belts when he won 12 matches and lost every match from 2012-2014 and then quit.

No one ever said wrestling was real, we were making fun of the fact that he admitted it's fake to destiny and then threatens people online with an imaginary mma career. I honestly don't know what you guys expected, when Failure and Tonka immediately started screaming when I brought up that video and then admitted it was Tonka. You can look into the entire wrestling persona he brags about it and there's a long trail of former wrestlers and promoters in alabama calling him a liar and a fake.
In case you're the real Zoom I want to ask you this and I'm sure some people here want to know it as well: How in the three holy names of the Lord did you manage to end up as the dumbest motherfucker in this spedfest known as the Internet Bloodsports saga with your ex-boyfriend Joachim as a possible close second? You faggots even outdid QueenOfPole in terms of :autism:. What kind of a Machiavellian 4D keikaku requires for you to come off as the biggest sped in a stream that had both the hothead and internet tough guy extraordinaire Tonkasaw and the Canadian marijuana plantman Andy "Bing Bing Wahoo" Warski at the same time? Please tell us!
 
In case you're the real Zoom I want to ask you this and I'm sure some people here want to know it as well: How in the three holy names of the Lord did you manage to end up as the dumbest motherfucker in this spedfest known as the Internet Bloodsports saga with your ex-boyfriend Joachim as a possible close second? You faggots even outdid QueenOfPole in terms of :autism:. What kind of a Machiavellian 4D keikaku requires for you to come off as the biggest sped in a stream that had both the hothead and internet tough guy extraordinaire Tonkasaw and the Canadian marijuana plantman Andy "Bing Bing Wahoo" Warski at the same time? Please tell us!


Metokur said we had to censor out the names and the wrestling names. You guys have no idea how full of shit Tonka is and how much he and failure lie. They admitted he was that guy multiples times and then claimed I didn't actually look up those names in the censored version. Perfect example, tonka offered me the exact same fight terms.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0

28:50
>Failure Terminated: "If you're serious, we'll set it up in Tennessee."
29:18
>Failure Terminated: "What are the rules for fighting in Tennessee?"
>Tonka Saw: "It won't matter."
46:57
>Baked Alaska: "Where do you want to fight?"
>Tonka Saw: "Doesn't matter, Baked."
47:23
>Tonka Saw: "I'll tell you, I'm 6'2", 197lbs. I'll cut down to 185lbs for you."
1:03:32
>Tonka Saw: "I wanted to become a wrestler; became a wrestler. I wanted to become a fighter; became a fighter. Wanted to be on radio; I was on radio. I wanted to be in a movie; I was in a movie."
1:21:14
>Failure Terminated: "We're talking about legit MMA here. Ref, everything, cage, recorded live. We'll figure stuff out."

'Legit MMA, ref and everything' that requires licensing and fighting at that level means he'd have a public fight record. These guys lie so much on stream they don't even remember the lies they tell. Tennessee director called him a joke when i explained these terms to them.
 
Some long-ass rant about Tonka

If you are the real Zoom I'm glad you responded to my post about how you're a whiny cunt who cries over insignificant shit by crying about how the insignificant shit is correct. Who gives a fuck? Tonka is a literally who that can't break 5,000 on his show and you're screaming for hours on a stream about some dumb shit because he called you the mean pedo word. You agree that wrestling isn't real but then you say "oh he was bragging when he lost matches, he shouldn't brag about being a wrestler when he lost." Wrestling is fucking fake, you mark. You can be a fantastic wrestler and lose constantly because that's how you are booked. From all available evidence, it was obvious that he was a heel for most of his career. Heels generally lose unless they cheat as part of the storyline. He's probably a bad wrestler (I saw one match and he was the absolute definition of "generic mediocre indy geek") but it all comes back to this point: Who fucking cares?

Great, you proved that some indy wrestling faggot was an internet tough guy who was lying about an MMA career or something. Was it worth the fucking hours you spent talking to everyone he was involved with and calling up companies to larp about being an employer? My issue is not that you were incorrect in anything you said. My issue is that you spent all this time looking up boring shit that doesn't matter about a boring nobody that doesn't matter. Then, you screamed at him in your annoying voice for four hours like you had beaten him in an amazing 4d chess maneuver. There's a reason people say "don't pozload my negholep" because ultimately you accomplished nothing and he didn't concede an inch. Even if you are objectively correct, it didn't affect his numbers, it didn't affect his supporters and it didn't affect him.

You not only pozloaded my negholep, you smeared it all over your face and ran out into the street screaming in front of 10,000 people.
 
Is Jim on suicide watch right now? I joined in while the conversation was 2 hours in and I wanted to seppuku myself just hearing the argument.

Metokur said we had to censor out the names and the wrestling names. You guys have no idea how full of shit Tonka is and how much he and failure lie. They admitted he was that guy multiples times and then claimed I didn't actually look up those names in the censored version. Perfect example, tonka offered me the exact same fight terms.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0

28:50
>Failure Terminated: "If you're serious, we'll set it up in Tennessee."
29:18
>Failure Terminated: "What are the rules for fighting in Tennessee?"
>Tonka Saw: "It won't matter."
46:57
>Baked Alaska: "Where do you want to fight?"
>Tonka Saw: "Doesn't matter, Baked."
47:23
>Tonka Saw: "I'll tell you, I'm 6'2", 197lbs. I'll cut down to 185lbs for you."
1:03:32
>Tonka Saw: "I wanted to become a wrestler; became a wrestler. I wanted to become a fighter; became a fighter. Wanted to be on radio; I was on radio. I wanted to be in a movie; I was in a movie."
1:21:14
>Failure Terminated: "We're talking about legit MMA here. Ref, everything, cage, recorded live. We'll figure stuff out."

'Legit MMA, ref and everything' that requires licensing and fighting at that level means he'd have a public fight record. These guys lie so much on stream they don't even remember the lies they tell. Tennessee director called him a joke when i explained these terms to them.

Zoom you would’ve looked so much better if you didn’t scream half the time, I mean holy shit the stream is like 60% you yelling. Even if you had a point it was lost in the autistic screeching. Thing is that no one looks that good after last night.
 
If you are the real Zoom I'm glad you responded to my post about how you're a whiny cunt who cries over insignificant shit by crying about how the insignificant shit is correct. Who gives a fuck? Tonka is a literally who that can't break 5,000 on his show and you're screaming for hours on a stream about some dumb shit because he called you the mean pedo word. You agree that wrestling isn't real but then you say "oh he was bragging when he lost matches, he shouldn't brag about being a wrestler when he lost." Wrestling is fucking fake, you mark. You can be a fantastic wrestler and lose constantly because that's how you are booked. From all available evidence, it was obvious that he was a heel for most of his career. Heels generally lose unless they cheat as part of the storyline. He's probably a bad wrestler (I saw one match and he was the absolute definition of "generic mediocre indy geek") but it all comes back to this point: Who fucking cares?

Great, you proved that some indy wrestling faggot was an internet tough guy who was lying about an MMA career or something. Was it worth the fucking hours you spent talking to everyone he was involved with and calling up companies to larp about being an employer? My issue is not that you were incorrect in anything you said. My issue is that you spent all this time looking up boring shit that doesn't matter about a boring nobody that doesn't matter. Then, you screamed at him in your annoying voice for four hours like you had beaten him in an amazing 4d chess maneuver. There's a reason people say "don't pozload my neghole" because ultimately you accomplished nothing and he didn't concede an inch. Even if you are objectively correct, it didn't affect his numbers, it didn't affect his supporters and it didn't affect him.

You not only pozloaded my negholep, you smeared it all over your face and ran out into the street screaming in front of 10,000 people.

Tonka, will continually lie regardless of what's true. It didn't matter if you cared or not, what mattered was that his fans were watching and saw everything he says was bullshit. I don't know if it's communal autism or something, but no one cared about wrestling just like no one cared about his height. I highlight the fact that there's only one video of him saying that and it's the video destiny links and he lies and says that's not the video. Tonka claims it's not him and it's the wrong video only to admit and failure to admit it's him 2 minutes later. I get that wrestling is fake you dunce, the problem is that in his state and all the states he claimed to promote in. Even the fake wrestling requires permits and licenses from the state, those cards would be listed on the promotions cards even if they aren't what he was claiming he never said and are fake wrestling. Because each venue and ring has to be inspected by law, Tonka himself explains this on a video where he clearly appears to be in a wheelchair labeled 'his wrestling name talks about the division' he also admitted that was his name and he was in the video, then admitted he put his wrestling name on his dad and grandfathers obits which is fuckin weird. Also, what I said was he was bragging to destiny that everywhere he went he won and had belts. He wrestled for 3 different small time promotions, I called all of them and each time I brought him up they immediately shifted in tone because of the way each one thought of him. Each promotion claimed he either beat his ex, would threaten real fights with other wrestlers outside of the ring and then not show up, or that he was overall a child who threw temper tantrums after going off script and trying to win fights he was scripted to lose and losing anyway. Then he tried to start his own thing and it folded because he didn't do well enough and he'd already made a bad name for himself in that scene.

'Didn't affect his numbers' well considering his channel failed and he jumped onto andy's to leech off of him I'd say only andy's get affected. For someone who doesn't care he spent 9 hours after that stream going to seven different channels explaining himself and why he wasn't coming up in any databases. I went to sleep laughing at the fact that I wasted 6 1/2 hours of everyones time and had tonka pussy out of fighting me IRL in front of 10,000 people.


Is Jim on suicide watch right now? I joined in while the conversation was 2 hours in and I wanted to seppuku myself just hearing the argument.



Zoom you would’ve looked so much better if you didn’t scream half the time, I mean holy shit the stream is like 60% you yelling. Even if you had a point it was lost in the autistic screeching. Thing is that no one looks that good after last night.
Joachim and Failure continued to stonewall, and screech. At that point, all you could do is be louder. They had nothing besides rehashing a ralph stream from a month ago. Joachim gets called out on begging me to dox people, then denies it. He admits it on a live stream that was clipped weeks ago and he's saying he did it on purpose. Then he lies and says he never asked me and I did it all on my own. They brought Joachim and Failure on to scream every single time we brought something up. Tonka admits he's this person in a video being referenced I show that exact video, they lie and then cave and admits it's him and then argue about it being an inch of height lied about when I was just showing that this was clearly the video destiny was referencing. You can even tell it is because there are tonka saw comments the date that stream was recorded posted on the video. Failure and Tonka were just doing damage control the entire stream. Every single time tonka couldn't think of a lie he'd call for failure to back him up. Failure was there in that stream with destiny, and still lies and says it isn't him and then says it is. Failure himself in the vid I linked in my last post is bragging about his 'real mma' hookups and booking. But, as you can see from my video they have no clue who he is and have never worked with him for anything.
 
Metokur said we had to censor out the names and the wrestling names. You guys have no idea how full of shit Tonka is and how much he and failure lie. They admitted he was that guy multiples times and then claimed I didn't actually look up those names in the censored version. Perfect example, tonka offered me the exact same fight terms.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0

28:50
>Failure Terminated: "If you're serious, we'll set it up in Tennessee."
29:18
>Failure Terminated: "What are the rules for fighting in Tennessee?"
>Tonka Saw: "It won't matter."
46:57
>Baked Alaska: "Where do you want to fight?"
>Tonka Saw: "Doesn't matter, Baked."
47:23
>Tonka Saw: "I'll tell you, I'm 6'2", 197lbs. I'll cut down to 185lbs for you."
1:03:32
>Tonka Saw: "I wanted to become a wrestler; became a wrestler. I wanted to become a fighter; became a fighter. Wanted to be on radio; I was on radio. I wanted to be in a movie; I was in a movie."
1:21:14
>Failure Terminated: "We're talking about legit MMA here. Ref, everything, cage, recorded live. We'll figure stuff out."

'Legit MMA, ref and everything' that requires licensing and fighting at that level means he'd have a public fight record. These guys lie so much on stream they don't even remember the lies they tell. Tennessee director called him a joke when i explained these terms to them.

Please post a public verification that this is your account on one of your social media accounts before posting more. Something like "yes I am zum on KF".

Either that, or make a post in the Talk to Staff subforum to discuss further: https://kiwifarms.net/forums/talk-to-staff.26/
 
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