Trashfire Internet Bloodsports Aftermath - The neverending Mexican drama of wannabe e-celebs and their detractors

[Room312]

Zoom did it because he's a butthurt Destiny fan.

• pedo
• references Destiny constantly
  
• hates Tonkasaw
• reeeee
• thinks wrasslin is real
  
• annoying voice
• :autism:

Ticks all the boxes.

 

[MidUSA]

Thing is Zoom, you fucked up by burying whatever relevant dirt you found on Tonka beneath a mound of bullshit.

I'm a bit dissapointed actually. Tonka has been pretty obnoxious lately and if there were stuff to expose, it would have been interesting. If you had cut down your video to like 10 minutes or so, focused on stuff people would actually care about Tonka lying about; you might have made an impact. What you presented was just scattershot bullshit that will not sway anyone not already on your side; simply because no-one will want to sit through your discombobulated autism.

Also; do you realize that:
-Amateur Wrestling is an actual sport,
- Pro wrestling is not an actual sport and no matter how rinky-dink and low-rent a wrestling show gets; if its guys cutting promos and chokslamming each other in a ring with a pre-determined outcome rather than legitimately trying to subdue each other on a mat dressed in red/blue singlet and those silly looking earmuffs; it's still Pro wrestling.

-Mr Wrestleman taking the olympic freestyle gold medal is a national hero, have achieved something spectacular and can leverage that achievement into serious cash in the future. He's a amateur wrestlet.
-Jobber mc Jobberman getting paid $50 to get beaten over the head with lighttubes in some shitty deathmatch wrestling event in a bingohall hasn't achieved shit, outside of fucking up his body. He's a pro-wrestler.
It has nothing to do with the quality of the performance, it's about the type of activity and if you're getting directly or indirectly paid for it.


To everyone: The only allegation I find really damning is that Tonka would have lied about having had amateur MMA-bouts. They could be instantly disproven if anyone can find footage of a fight. Anyone knows where these fights would have alledgedly taken place?

 

[Tewi]

Quick question and this truly baffles me. Why do you care about some faggots on youtube so much? We're here just laughing and having a good time but goddamn you're over there making phone calls, writing research papers, investigating backgrounds, and going on hours long rants and for what?

I love the "who cares" defense
The people in this thread right now doesn't seem to laugh that much, they sound more angry than anything with every posts

 

[Registered Human]

I love the "who cares" defense
The people in this thread right now doesn't seem to laugh that much, they sound more angry than anything with every posts

It's not worth laughing at until you and Zoom get Tonka to shove a championship belt up his ass, so get to work.

 

[Ma_Hooty]

Do you ever get that feeling of when you're around someone, you immediately want nothing to do with them and walk away, even if that was the first time you met them?
I'm not just talking about your mind thinking, "Wow, that guy's a fucking creep" after meeting the person, but on an instinctual level, where you as a being is repulsed just by hearing their voice. No other inputs necessary.

Yeah, those are the vibes you throw out every time you opened your maw, Zoom. Also, I was kinda floored at the level of obession you had when you said you spent your time calling up those places

in every state.

That's some top-tier yandere shit right there, holy hell...

 

[Nobunaga]

Idk I was told by some exceptional individual on ralphs stream he was going to the pentagon and that turned out to be bullshit, I tend to not worry about the internet when I'm not guilty of anything you have nothing to worry about. Esp considering besides ralph and andy, I was the only one on the show with an actual partner I can see irl. Tonka is in his 30's e dating and telling people to kill themselves lol.




Cause it was #2 trending on youtube and it requires zero effort, it took me 2 hours to call and make the video and get jim to go along with it. That dudes a fag, it's funny to fuck with him.

Zoom, it the pedo accusations are false like you claim they are, you still age played with your girlfriend and you trying to deny it and bury it makes you look like a pedo in denial, just admit you are a degenerate dawg

 

[Tewi]

It's not worth laughing at until you and Zoom get Tonka to shove a championship belt up his ass, so get to work.

Read what I quoted
I never had as a goal to make the metocast funny for people who are outside the drama, it doesn't matter to me

 

[Corey Barnhill]

Thing is Zoom, you fucked up by burying whatever relevant dirt you found on Tonka beneath a mound of bullshit.

I'm a bit dissapointed actually. Tonka has been pretty obnoxious lately and if there were stuff to expose, it would have been interesting. If you had cut down your video to like 10 minutes or so, focused on stuff people would actually care about Tonka lying about; you might have made an impact. What you presented was just scattershot bullshit that will not sway anyone not already on your side; simply because no-one will want to sit through your discombobulated autism.

Also; do you realize that:
-Amateur Wrestling is an actual sport,
- Pro wrestling is not an actual sport and no matter how rinky-dink and low-rent a wrestling show gets; if its guys cutting promos and chokslamming each other in a ring with a pre-determined outcome rather than legitimately trying to subdue each other on a mat dressed in red/blue singlet and those silly looking earmuffs; it's still Pro wrestling.

-Mr Wrestleman taking the olympic freestyle gold medal is a national hero, have achieved something spectacular and can leverage that achievement into serious cash in the future. He's a amateur wrestlet.
-Jobber mc Jobberman getting paid $50 to get beaten over the head with lighttubes in some shitty deathmatch wrestling event in a bingohall hasn't achieved shit, outside of fucking up his body. He's a pro-wrestler.
It has nothing to do with the quality of the performance, it's about the type of activity and if you're getting directly or indirectly paid for it.


To everyone: The only allegation I find really damning is that Tonka would have lied about having had amateur MMA-bouts. They could be instantly disproven if anyone can find footage of a fight. Anyone knows where these fights would have alledgedly taken place?

Again, I don't know if it's selective autism. But the problem was even in the stream, tonka said he does specifically 'pro wrestling' and then he claims he does amateur wrestling and on TommyCFTP's stream right now someone just said tonka claimed he did MMA first then wrestling which would have made him 15 at the time.

He claimed he ran his own promotions but from the three promotions he wrestled under they said he was a hot head, who freaked out when he was written as a lost and went off script and tried to actually fight and still lost. Then he'd challenge people to a fights out of the ring and pussy out. They nicknamed him idle threats, he burned his entire rep in that scene and then he moved to georgia.

I knew exactly what I was calling for based on what Tonka and Failure said on the stream. Getting a ref and a cage, would require an actual license and permits. He told everyone he could it for 2k multiple times, it would cost almost 13k to set that up with licenses and the bonds before you even rented a ring. He also cried on the stream where he talked about video games about how he had to cut his career short cause the commission in those states enforced licensing for those events. Tonka offered me the exact same thing as he offered baked. I called that exact state, and said exactly what he's stipulated multiple times on stream to multiple challenges and they've never heard of him in any manner.

Listen for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0
28:50 Failure Terminated: "If you're serious, we'll set it up in Tennessee."
29:18 Failure Terminated: "What are the rules for fighting in Tennessee?"
Tonka Saw: "It won't matter."
46:57 Baked Alaska: "Where do you want to fight?"
Tonka Saw: "Doesn't matter, Baked."
47:23 Tonka Saw: "I'll tell you, I'm 6'2", 197lbs. I'll cut down to 185lbs for you."
1:03:32 Tonka Saw: "I wanted to become a wrestler; became a wrestler. I wanted to become a fighter; became a fighter. Wanted to be on radio; I was on radio. I wanted to be in a movie; I was in a movie."
1:21:14 Failure Terminated: "We're talking about legit MMA here. Ref, everything, cage, recorded live. We'll figure stuff out."

It's not worth laughing at until you and Zoom get Tonka to shove a championship belt up his ass, so get to work.

Tonka never won a championship, 3 different venues said the only thing he beat was his ex.

 

[Sparky Lurker]

I really hope this thread doesn't go all the way down to quoting articles about wrestling from wikipedia.

 

[gobbogobb]

And this spergery is important why exactly?

I'm serious here. Y'all acting like you've made a great discovery that people on the internet embellish the truth and lie about things.

So what's the punchline to the joke?

 

[Corey Barnhill]

Zoom, it the pedo accusations are false like you claim they are, you still age played with your girlfriend and you trying to deny it and bury it makes you look like a pedo in denial, just admit you are a degenerate dawg

By that mentality Tonka is a child molester. Simply because a girl he lied about not dating said so.

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[Ma_Hooty]

I love the "who cares" defense
The people in this thread right now doesn't seem to laugh that much, they sound more angry than anything with every posts

I love the "why you guys mad, I thought this was a place to laugh at spergs?" defense. Pretty sure there's people who are laughing at what you two are doing right now.

 

[Tewi]

I love the "why you guys mad, I thought this was a place to laugh at spergs?" defense. Pretty sure there's people who are laughing at what you two are doing right now.

I never said or implied that sentence you put in quotation mark, you are lacking the context of the comment I replied to

 

[Into_the_Void]

I never said or implied that sentence you put in quotation mark, you are lacking the context of the comment I replied to

Didnt you dox people? Seriously just asking. I haven’t been paying attention to the drama so I’m a little uniformed on the BYBS/anime mafia side of things.

Btw you all are exceptional to myself and many others on this thread. On both sides of this argument. It looks like you and Zoom are doing damage control right now and that just doesn’t look good.

Edit: I ask because you and Aqua were name dropped constantly.

 

[MMX]

Again, I don't know if it's selective autism. But the problem was even in the stream, tonka said he does specifically 'pro wrestling' and then he claims he does amateur wrestling and on TommyCFTP's stream right now someone just said tonka claimed he did MMA first then wrestling which would have made him 15 at the time.

He claimed he ran his own promotions but from the three promotions he wrestled under they said he was a hot head, who freaked out when he was written as a lost and went off script and tried to actually fight and still lost. Then he'd challenge people to a fights out of the ring and pussy out. They nicknamed him idle threats, he burned his entire rep in that scene and then he moved to georgia.

I knew exactly what I was calling for based on what Tonka and Failure said on the stream. Getting a ref and a cage, would require an actual license and permits. He told everyone he could it for 2k multiple times, it would cost almost 13k to set that up with licenses and the bonds before you even rented a ring. He also cried on the stream where he talked about video games about how he had to cut his career short cause the commission in those states enforced licensing for those events. Tonka offered me the exact same thing as he offered baked. I called that exact state, and said exactly what he's stipulated multiple times on stream to multiple challenges and they've never heard of him in any manner.

Listen for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0
28:50 Failure Terminated: "If you're serious, we'll set it up in Tennessee."
29:18 Failure Terminated: "What are the rules for fighting in Tennessee?"
Tonka Saw: "It won't matter."
46:57 Baked Alaska: "Where do you want to fight?"
Tonka Saw: "Doesn't matter, Baked."
47:23 Tonka Saw: "I'll tell you, I'm 6'2", 197lbs. I'll cut down to 185lbs for you."
1:03:32 Tonka Saw: "I wanted to become a wrestler; became a wrestler. I wanted to become a fighter; became a fighter. Wanted to be on radio; I was on radio. I wanted to be in a movie; I was in a movie."
1:21:14 Failure Terminated: "We're talking about legit MMA here. Ref, everything, cage, recorded live. We'll figure stuff out."




Tonka never won a championship, 3 different venues said the only thing he beat was his ex.

Zoom I dont think anyone is really questioning the truth of Tonkas professional career, likely every point you made it correct, it's more the way you went about it.
You could have just directed him to the website you were directed to and just said
"There u go buddy use any alias you like but just show me anything to back your claims"
And have him either admit the or counter his excuses for why he can't do it but instead you subject everyone to multiple phone calls and a 30 minute presentation.
You had the chance to made a clear point but decided to be a showman about it and lost the audience.
The most basic rule you learn in debating is never argue a negative and never accept burden of prove or to put it another way you don't say "you were never a wrestler and I can prove it" you argue "If you were a wrestler prove it" and if you want to be a massive cock direct them to how they could if it was true.
Not that anyone cares about the wrestlelarp one way or the other, the world of full of failed wrestlers and wannabe tough guys but atleast it would have been watchable.

 

[Tewi]

Didnt you dox people? Seriously just asking. I haven’t been paying attention to the drama so I’m a little uniformed on the BYBS/anime mafia side of things.

Btw you all are exceptional to myself and many others on this thread. On both sides of this argument. It looks like you and Zoom are doing damage control right now and that just doesn’t look good.

Edit: I ask because you and Aqua were name dropped constantly.

In the legal definition of my country, I didn't dox anyone, but if you are asking if I doxed people from the first definition google gave me "search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent."
Then I did search and publish public identifying information about Joachim Hoch aka Seth Lewis Wallace and Tonkasaw Aka Robi Vio/Pilkington AFTER they showed intent of wanting to dox me, doxed 3 people who had nothing to do with me but just be in my server posting knives emojis, claimed someone who doesn't have a mic said in VC that "he" was a convicted pedophile even tho it's a she, in front of an audience, and then said they had "my infos", while also claiming I was a pedophile and wanted to kill people in the case of Seth Wallace

Aqua in his case didn't search for their infos but published their infos, none of us claim we didn't

I'm not doing damage control, I made my account for another reason and I'm just explaining my own point of view, I already know what kind of website I'm posting in

 

[Ma_Hooty]

I never said or implied that sentence you put in quotation mark, you are lacking the context of the comment I replied to

I got the context just fine, hun. You could've easily answered the quoted with why you're targeting your weaponized autism on some wrestler "fite me irl" sped known for embellishing the truth who runs a sub-par daytime show on YouTube and come out with something as weak as "Tonka said here that he's 6'0 when he's achtually 5'10"!!"

Instead you go, "lol, why u mad?" and double down by posting more autistic shit.

But DO go on, I want to see how deep this goes, lol

 

[gobbogobb]

That's a lot of words for "yep I doxed a dude, who cares?"

It's also why no one cares enough to defend or agree with either side. You all type too goddamn much to say so little.

 

[Tewi]

I got the context just fine, hun. You could've easily answered the quoted with why you're targeting your weaponized autism on some wrestler "fite me irl" sped known for embellishing the truth who runs a sub-par daytime show on YouTube and come out with something as weak as "Tonka said here that he's 6'0 when he's achtually 5'10"!!"

Instead you go, "lol, why u mad?" and double down by posting more autistic shit.

But DO go on, I want to see how deep this goes, lol

I wasn't on stream talking about his height as far as I remember, "hun"

That's a lot of words for "yep I doxed a dude, who cares?"

It's also why no one cares enough to defend or agree with either side. You all type too goddamn much to say so little.

I never said or implied "yep I doxed a dude, who cares"
I admitted it and gave context

 

[Superman93]

Read what I quoted
I never had as a goal to make the metocast funny for people who are outside the drama, it doesn't matter to me

If its not funny then not many people here will care. It's why people of interest are called "Lol"-cows.
If it's any consolation you did get a couple of good laughs out of me . I think everyone remotely involved in this are at least 5% :autism:.
So whats with the whole "beat his girlfriend" stuff that was talked about? I re watched that part in the stream and I didn't see any evidence presented about that.