Trashfire Internet Bloodsports Aftermath - The neverending Mexican drama of wannabe e-celebs and their detractors

Thing is Zoom, you fucked up by burying whatever relevant dirt you found on Tonka beneath a mound of bullshit.

I'm a bit dissapointed actually. Tonka has been pretty obnoxious lately and if there were stuff to expose, it would have been interesting. If you had cut down your video to like 10 minutes or so, focused on stuff people would actually care about Tonka lying about; you might have made an impact. What you presented was just scattershot bullshit that will not sway anyone not already on your side; simply because no-one will want to sit through your discombobulated autism.

Also; do you realize that:
-Amateur Wrestling is an actual sport,
- Pro wrestling is not an actual sport and no matter how rinky-dink and low-rent a wrestling show gets; if its guys cutting promos and chokslamming each other in a ring with a pre-determined outcome rather than legitimately trying to subdue each other on a mat dressed in red/blue singlet and those silly looking earmuffs; it's still Pro wrestling.

-Mr Wrestleman taking the olympic freestyle gold medal is a national hero, have achieved something spectacular and can leverage that achievement into serious cash in the future. He's a amateur wrestlet.
-Jobber mc Jobberman getting paid $50 to get beaten over the head with lighttubes in some shitty deathmatch wrestling event in a bingohall hasn't achieved shit, outside of fucking up his body. He's a pro-wrestler.
It has nothing to do with the quality of the performance, it's about the type of activity and if you're getting directly or indirectly paid for it.


To everyone: The only allegation I find really damning is that Tonka would have lied about having had amateur MMA-bouts. They could be instantly disproven if anyone can find footage of a fight. Anyone knows where these fights would have alledgedly taken place?

Honestly, I would watch these YouTubers brawl, fight, or wrestle it out. It's be more entertaining and live up to the name bloodsports.

*Edit*
Do any of them have any experience in amateur fighting? It seems like they're all exaggerating... Not that would stop me from watching if they did fight.
 
If its not funny then not many people here will care. It's why people of interest are called "Lol"-cows.
If it's any consolation you did get a couple of good laughs out of me :story:. I think everyone remotely involved in this are at least 5% :autism:.
So whats with the whole "beat his girlfriend" stuff that was talked about? I re watched that part in the stream and I didn't see any evidence presented about that.
I didn't try to make people here to care, I posted here only after I saw some people talk about it to give context
I don't really know about the whole ex stuff, except that the guy he talked to on discord was legit, but it's his words against Tonka, from what Zoom told me he had to redact the ex part because of Jim and there was a dump of 40 images of Robi Vio facebook pages that he didn't had time to use and he is currently trying to contact 2 of his ex, so maybe I'll learn about it more later

No you sperged about definitions and internet lawyered for way too many words.

Did you dox tonkatruck?

I googled him and posted my findings. If you call that a dox, sure.

Better?
I gave two answers depending on the definition you want to use, it wasn't me bragging about it since someone asked me.
 
Honestly, I would watch these YouTubers brawl, fight, or wrestle it out. It's be more entertaining and live up to the name bloodsports.

*Edit*
Do any of them have any experience in amateur fighting? It seems like they're all exaggerating... Not that would stop me from watching if they did fight.
I know zoom does :story:
 
I didn't try to make people here to care, I posted here only after I saw some people talk about it to give context
I don't really know about the whole ex stuff, except that the guy he talked to on discord was legit, but it's his words against Tonka, from what Zoom told me he had to redact the ex part because of Jim and there was a dump of 40 images of Robi Vio facebook pages that he didn't had time to use and he is currently trying to contact 2 of his ex, so maybe I'll learn about it more later

Maybe Zoom should have actually dumped some of the material or led with it instead of just ranting about wrestling for 45 minutes.
Everyone involved knew the rules and knew what was allowed and what had to be redacted.
 
Maybe Zoom should have actually dumped some of the material or led with it instead of just ranting about wrestling for 45 minutes.
Everyone involved knew the rules and knew what was allowed and what had to be redacted.
To be honest, I don't think a metocast/bloodsport format is the correct choice for this kind of stuff, what they wanted was an audience, even if 80% didn't know about any of it, the 20% who are part of the drama/shows in question would, they were banned, and not just Zoom, from explaining their stories anywhere
For people wanting to prove things, the metocast was not that great, for people wanting to show how gay IBS is, the metocast was perfect
 
To be honest, I don't think a metocast/bloodsport format is the correct choice for this kind of stuff, what they wanted was an audience, even if 80% didn't know about any of it, the 20% who are part of the drama/shows in question would, they were banned, and not just Zoom, from explaining their stories anywhere
For people wanting to prove things, the metocast was not that great, for people wanting to show how gay IBS is, the metocast was perfect

That's a valid point I suppose but then I remembered that zoom was posting unedited videos to twitter whilst the stream was going and to be honest it was easier to watch those rather than listen to the endless bitching.
So if he has all this stuff and unedited versions that make some sort of point then time was never an issue as he was dropping stuff outside the allowed format anyway. He could literally dump everything to twitter and save everyone the ear rape instead he just posted unedited wrestlegate.
 
Maybe Zoom should have actually dumped some of the material or led with it instead of just ranting about wrestling for 45 minutes.
Everyone involved knew the rules and knew what was allowed and what had to be redacted.

They kept stalling and interrupted, that's why I started yelling too. The video would have gone along smooth tonka demaded I censor everything showing he's full of shit while admitting it's him and jim saying i can say the names he's confirming or air them.

That's a valid point I suppose but then I remembered that zoom was posting unedited videos to twitter whilst the stream was going and to be honest it was easier to watch those rather than listen to the endless bitching.
So if he has all this stuff and unedited versions that make some sort of point then time was never an issue as he was dropping stuff outside the allowed format anyway. He could literally dump everything to twitter and save everyone the ear rape instead he just posted unedited wrestlegate.
If tonka and failure didn't keep stopping the video to explain, he claims it isn't him yet he knows the exact person saying he only beat his ex and was a shitty fake wrestler. Said it's the wrong video and not him then ofc it isn't him. Tonka just didn't want the video to be played, he even lied about the content of the crybaby post it was about his ex saying he molested children. Once I realized they weren't gonna let anything play, i decided to waste as much as their time as possible.

Zoom I dont think anyone is really questioning the truth of Tonkas professional career, likely every point you made it correct, it's more the way you went about it.
You could have just directed him to the website you were directed to and just said
"There u go buddy use any alias you like but just show me anything to back your claims"
And have him either admit the or counter his excuses for why he can't do it but instead you subject everyone to multiple phone calls and a 30 minute presentation.
You had the chance to made a clear point but decided to be a showman about it and lost the audience.
The most basic rule you learn in debating is never argue a negative and never accept burden of prove or to put it another way you don't say "you were never a wrestler and I can prove it" you argue "If you were a wrestler prove it" and if you want to be a massive cock direct them to how they could if it was true.
Not that anyone cares about the wrestlelarp one way or the other, the world of full of failed wrestlers and wannabe tough guys but atleast it would have been watchable.
Yeah, but he would have just lied and use failure and andy to back up his story. You have to use videos and personal things to push his buttons. I wasted 6 1/2 hours of his time on a sunday when I had nothing to do.
 
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I know zoom does :story:
If you're gonna post a video, post the real one. https://streamable.com/fb7ub they forced me to wear gloves and the guy had 10 friends with him, i came by myself. They complained that with my size I would really hurt him if I grabbed, tossed or slammed him or took him the ground. He knew I didn't ever do boxing and only did leg work and judo. He refused to come near me and ran away from me for over 2 hours. when i finally did grab him when he got too close, i faked a fall so he would come after me and grabbed him immediately and when i got him in a grip he freaked out and had his brother and friends break it up.

Dont doble post you autistic moron jesus
There's no option to delete a post, my browser crashed when I was posting and it posted twice.
 
Yeah, but he would have just lied and use failure and andy to back up his story. You have to use videos and personal things to push his buttons. I wasted 6 1/2 hours of his time on a sunday when I had nothing to do.

Thats what your not seeing here.
You don't have to convince Andy, Tonka, Destiny or even Jim of your claims you have to convince your audience.
Even if Tonka had a fair argument to dismiss why he exists in no databases, even if he argued it was backyard crap so it's not listed anywhere, even if he said his license lapsed so hes no longer listed then audience would still be left with the fact you asked him to do one thing "prove it" and he couldn't do the one thing he was asked. It's better to let someone think they won whilst everyone else knows they didn't.
Don't work each other, work the audience, that's wrasslin 101
 
You must be cripplingly retarded @zum , since you can't contain your urge to shriek into just one fucking post like the clear majority of every other poster can when talking to more than one user.

Like, I didn't even bother watching Jim's Suicide Watch Stream because I knew it would be bad. But you seem to have been the capstone of cowshit if you will, which is impressive given that I just assumed it would be a Barber Shop Quartet of suck where not one of you would stand out from the choir of cretins you guys formed. You apparently wasted about a half hour of everyone's' time spastically reeing about some guy fake wrestling.

Literally the only thing of value I got out of this shitfest is you apparently react as strongly to being called a pedophile as Maddox does to being called Cuck. Actually worse, since Cuck King never had to compulsively flee to here to defend a completely fucked reputation and A-log some schmo on here.
 
Thats what your not seeing here.
You don't have to convince Andy, Tonka, Destiny or even Jim of your claims you have to convince your audience.
Even if Tonka had a fair argument to dismiss why he exists in no databases, even if he argued it was backyard crap so it's not listed anywhere, even if he said his license lapsed so hes no longer listed then audience would still be left with the fact you asked him to do one thing "prove it" and he couldn't do the one thing he was asked. It's better to let someone think they won whilst everyone else knows they didn't.
Don't work each other, work the audience, that's wrasslin 101

He had a shit argument, when he's saying shit like he did in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXO69-hRWw0

In this video he claims he had pro experience and mma experience, failure says they had connections to the Tenn commission and could get venues set up. Baked accepted, tonka dropped the threat. Islam did the same thing, tonka dropped the threat. I said i'd let him know as soon as I was back in NY. He immediately the day after I tell andy to book it is 'done' with that.

He's done this for months on the Kumite and someone on that one podcast I mentioned earlier said Tonka's entire story changed to him and he did MMA first then wrestling but he wouldn't have been young enough to compete in his state so the guy thought he was full of shit.

You must be cripplingly exceptional @zum , since you can't contain your urge to shriek into just one fucking post like the clear majority of every other poster can when talking to more than one user.

Like, I didn't even bother watching Jim's Suicide Watch Stream because I knew it would be bad. But you seem to have been the capstone of cowshit if you will, which is impressive given that I just assumed it would be a Barber Shop Quartet of suck where not one of you would stand out from the choir of cretins you guys formed. You apparently wasted about a half hour of everyone's' time spastically reeing about some guy fake wrestling.

Literally the only thing of value I got out of this shitfest is you apparently react as strongly to being called a pedophile as Maddox does to being called Cuck. Actually worse, since Cuck King never had to compulsively flee to here to defend a completely fucked reputation and A-log some schmo on here.

So, trolling and bitching on stream is just too LOW IQ for your rick and morty analysis and endless bitching on kiwifarms? makes a whole lot of sense sperg.
 
Prove to me that "pretending" to be a pedophile is a clever 5d move that won't just make people want to see you get knifed in an Uruguayan prison since it still means you're shit. Prove to me that you aren't fucking mad even as you caused this thread to triple in size with this sick compulsion to correct the record.
 
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