Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

I think it was AnOminous who said this before, but I highly doubt if he's faced any "violence" besides the spray bottle incident in his life. He acts more like the kid who everybody ignored but didn't bully because he had special needs.

To be fair to Dobson (I can't believe I just typed that), the parts of Nazi ideology that don't deal with racial purity and genocide are the most seductive parts. A country made up of close-knit communities where everybody trusts each other due to a common sense of national pride sounds pretty damn good, especially when combined with a pro-environment and pro-worker/consumer government.
But, since this IS Dobson we're talking about, I will bet you he thinks it's the genocide (and h8 ) that's attractive/seductive. He literally knows nothing else about it other than "Nazis were racist/sexist/homophobic genocide machines!"

EDIT: Found some more sperging on his tumblr and one A-logger (OK which one of you :epik: was it? ;) )
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1) Noone is talking in favor of genocide. Some tiny minority of hardcore Nazis do not count. Otherwise, SJW would have to accept that Feminism is about eradicating all men, since that's something turbo-radfems actually and unironically demand.
By treating some tiny outlier-position as if it was the generally accepted consensus, SJWs hurt their own position...


2) Noone, absolutely noone, suggested "Genocide should be open for debate".

As I said. It's getting increasingly more difficult not to a-log this massive shithead.
Hitler made huge improvements for German workers, w/r/t to pay, safety and general quality of life (mandated breaks, maximum working hours, vacations, etc).
Heh. Some of the laws made by the NSDAP are pretty much in effect even now. For instance laws regarding the organisation of nightshifts for nurses (heavily supporting women's rights) and the entire canon of laws regarding hunting (preventing overhunting and forbidding "unfair methods") have stayed basically unchanged.

How the everliving FUCK are there people on Facebook actually siding with him?!
They buy into the whole "I said genocide is a no-no but Nazis disagreed" shtick. Dobson will piss these people off eventually, it'll just take longer as long as he clings to braindead "The other side of a debate is literally Hitler" rhetoric.

That's a pretty easy question to answer: Dobson is such a coward that he couldn't describe his encounter accurately because he's a rat and knew it would make him look bad. So he leaves out just enough information so that he looks good and he doesn't leave a link to the conversation so these people have a harder time finding it.
This is pretty much the biggest reason why Dobson will fail. These asspatters might not realize it now (maybe some :epik: could lend a helpful hand), but sooner of later, Dobson will make so many of these baseless claims that eventually, people will begin to see through his bullshit.
And going by some of the comments, it already started.


A shame I have no FB, otherwise I'd ask him if all his friends and families are Nazis in disguise that he fears they'll fall to the dark side if they just hear about it once. edit: If these views hold no credibility, how come they are so irresistable to everyone? /edit
Also, he again succeeded at diverting attention away from his scummy behaviour where he grossly misrepresents someone's statement. By making the scummy misrepresentation again, no less.
The only correct answer is "That is not what Specksnyder said and you insult her for no other reason than to completely misrepresenting her and her views to make yourself look better."

Hey, check it out. Going by Dobson’s response here, not only am I justified in running the tumblr, Dobson himself actively supports me doing so! Thanks, Dib Dob!
That's worthy of being made the header for the tumblr, I'd say.

The hypocrisy levels here are through the roof!
I'll try my best to translate this from bullshit to plain english:

"Kafkatrapping is when I get caught red handed when I do something scummy that usually should be against everything that I supposedly stand for, but by giving that a name, I can pretend that said criticism of my person is no longer valid, cause I called it a fallacy for some stupid, self-gratifying reason."

"... they have already gained access to your base and probably converted several people to their side."

Okay. This is my breaking point. Fuck you, Dobson. Fuck you.
I better not reply for some time now.

Edit: Though I am bemused that this started around page 1933 :story:
 
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Heh. Some of the laws made by the NSDAP are pretty much in effect even now. For instance laws regarding the organisation of nightshifts for nurses (heavily supporting women's rights) and the entire canon of laws regarding hunting (preventing overhunting and forbidding "unfair methods") have stayed basically unchanged.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot Hitler's animal rights agenda; and due to the transitive properties of "toxic" ideologies, if you support PETA you are literally a Nazi and in favor of murdering Jews.
 
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Long sperg is long (on his tumblr) :

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Dobson: Silence is complicity! (see the ICE sperging)
Also Dobson: Debating a Nazi gives them legitimacy!

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No, Dobson, no. Persecuting Nazis (whether or not you're the government) gives them legitimacy, in their own eyes.

What Dobson thinks of what should be done with "Nazis"? :

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The current administration claim they've seen job numbers gain for hispanic and black people in the US. Now it's fair to take that with a pinch of salt, but that doesn't exactly sound like Nazi Germany to me.

It's also funny how these tumblrinas forget how the last administration played out. Remember when Obama finally closed Guantanamo like he promised at the start of his admin? How about when he pulled out of Iraq and finally brought the boys home? Or the swift dealing with the Benghazi situation. Overseeing and completing a program to help Haiti after the earthquake properly? Dealing with Fergerson properly rather than letting it fester?

Oh wait none of those things happened.

And lets be real here, Dobson doesn't mean actual or even the loose trendy version of neo-nazi. He means anyone who votes Republican or equivalent because he thinks they are all murdering baby eaters riding through the country on horses with guns. It's also consistent with the way he treats everyone else, if they don't kiss his tush and even beg to differ he blocks them. The sad, strange little man that he is
 
It's important to recognize that the alt-right isn't only about ethnic cleansing, if they are at all. Nor is their method of recruitment going up to people and asking them to grab their tiki torches and burn down the nearest refugee center. Focusing solely on those aspect is missing the journey people take to get there. Legitimate grievances framed in their favor, offering words of comfort, lending a willing ear, playing up fears, introducing them to less obejctional aspects of their politics first, etc. We don't need to debate the question of genocide, but we need to wittle down everything around it to make the logical leap harder, if not impossible, to make.

Ignoring them until they make a spectacle of themselves and responding with moral outrage about how ''Genocide is wrong!'' or other statements that can be summed up in a sentence will not dissuade people from joining. It just means the alt-right have the rest of the time to come up with apologetics and work their recruits without opposing counter-arguments muddying the waters in peace, which is much more effective in establishing a foothold. You're also forced to be reactive when trying to limit whatever damage they're causing, allowing them to always be a step ahead.

Finally, you can't expect to convince anyone if you immediately shut them out.
 
The current administration claim they've seen job numbers gain for hispanic and black people in the US. Now it's fair to take that with a pinch of salt, but that doesn't exactly sound like Nazi Germany to me.

I dunno.... films about the holocaust showed that by the end of the war the employment rate for the remaining Jews in the Reich was darn near 100%.

It's important to recognize that the alt-right isn't only about ethnic cleansing, if they are at all. Nor is their method of recruitment going up to people and asking them to grab their tiki torches and burn down the nearest refugee center. Focusing solely on those aspect is missing the journey people take to get there. Legitimate grievances framed in their favor, offering words of comfort, lending a willing ear, playing up fears, introducing them to less obejctional aspects of their politics first, etc. We don't need to debate the question of genocide, but we need to wittle down everything around it to make the logical leap harder, if not impossible, to make.

You've also just described the journey to communism or any other cult.
 
I dunno.... films about the holocaust showed that by the end of the war the employment rate for the remaining Jews in the Reich was darn near 100%.



You've also just described the journey to communism or any other cult.
I think that's why the IngSocJus crowd thinks Republicans are Nazis - they slippery slope the legit grievance and comfort and willing ear into "next thing you know, they're NAZIS!" all while doing the same damn thing when recruiting for IngSocJus: Legit grievance exploitation over and above the call of duty, offering words of comfort and allyship (lending a willing ear), playing up fears. Oh yeah. By this reasoning, IngSocJus are also stealth Nazis.
 
Iv'e come to a point where it is almost impossible not to be angry at this guy, he makes the ocasional totaly idiotic strip yes, but his ignorant one sided arguements are painful to read.

Why does he do this if he also states that he hates debates? Why go public if you hate becoming a voice? Dobson embodies everything he hates to a point, and it's becomming insufferable to see how he is blind to this.
 
Iv'e come to a point where it is almost impossible not to be angry at this guy, he makes the ocasional totaly idiotic strip yes, but his ignorant one sided arguements are painful to read.

Why does he do this if he also states that he hates debates? Why go public if you hate becoming a voice? Dobson embodies everything he hates to a point, and it's becomming insufferable to see how he is blind to this.
Asspats. He does it for asspats. From his IngSocJus Senpais because something something right side of history and he'll show those toxic dudebros that allegedly bullied him in school because reasons!

More replies to his self-serving version of the tumblr exchange:
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wonder how toxic he's going to be to THIS guy:

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More on the Tumblr side of things:

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Holy shit, an actual apology from dumbson? Satan must have put on his ice skates...
(oh and he baleeted that fb post)
 
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Dobson's fear of the Alt right is based on vapid pop culture perspectives on society, it's a small vocal group with a particulary notable media presence. Frankly it terms of Dobsons world view he should be worrying more about alientated swing voters, the bible belt, the rust belt and the inability of the left to turn it's popular culture dominance into meaningful social change. Dobsons inadvertadly empowers the Right by allowing the dialogue to be tangental to both groups by ensuring the image of antifa fist fight with some dumb trash dominates public discussion instead of whatever the Republicans are actually doing.
As for actual Nazi's his fear of a sad failed ideology with a tiny support base nobody should give a single shit about them at this stage outside of when they make the mistake of breaking the law and then you call the cops. They can have their rights for the same reason Communists can-they're not a threat.

I love reminding leftist that Nazism is Socialism, its in the damn name. Hitler made huge improvements for German workers, w/r/t to pay, safety and general quality of life

It benifited some germans, briefly. Unless you're not jewish and don't value civic freedoms into being raped by russians Nazism was a net loss. Nazism isnt socialist either, the title is just a pr thing to draw in suckers.
 
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