Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Flexo]

Oh yeah. The sacrifices... the ones that Miss Chink-Market-Pandering called stupid, cause something something protect what you love.

Exactly. These idiots can't seem to grasp that the problem with the movie is it tells us one thing, and show us the exact opposite. i.e.
The movie TELLS us that Poe is wrong, but the movie SHOWS us that Poe was always right.

That's crappy storytelling unless you're doing a comedy/parody.

Oh wait...

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

The outrage people had in The Last Jedi was the same one I felt with The Force Awakens. I felt slapped in the face by a fish that told me that everything that was accomplished in the original trilogy, Luke succeeding in saving the galaxy by redeeming Anakin, Han becoming a great role model to the galaxy, the hardships of the rebellion, Luke's strategy to not fall to the dark side, all that was for nothing now. I felt betrayed by a company that was clearly shitting out a corporate cash grab. That film helped plant the seeds for The Last Jedi in showing Luke as a beta cuck coward that betrayed the morals of his character development, showing that the Force is all bullshit, and showing that the rebels are lead by clueless women like Hondo.

This is why I keep hoping that Disney spins off Lucasfilm so that we can get rid of their canon out of the universe, but thanks to the real estate involve in the theme parks, that can't happen unfortunately.

If anything, I blame George Lucas for this. It was a stupid thing for him to sell it off to a company that was interested in nothing but money and cashing in on a shitty cash grab. The shit we've seen in the ST is all a result of Lucas' stupidity to sell his company to Disney and get $4 billion out of it.

100% feels rating here also idk why I let that typo of mine happen. Props.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

100% feels rating here also idk why I let that typo of mine happen. Props.

This is someone who seriously played Star Wars, watched the movies to death, read the books and encyclopedias, played the games, and had posters to death.

I'm furious that this franchise I love is being raped by both Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy. I'm legitimately more furious that the cuck journalists at Screen Rant, IndieWire, Kennedy, Abrams, and Johnson are all doubling down on the fans.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Hell come to think of it, if the rebels could afford bigass ships and x-wings by the thousand, couldnt they have scraped together enough space-shekels to build an anti-vader hit squad?

I am reminded of the 'Vader Down' arc from Marvel's Darth Vader comic run, where Vader's fighter gets sideswiped by Luke, causing Vader to crash.

The Rebels deploy a truly ridiculous amount of infantry and air support to take Vader down, dead or alive. They use a bullhorn to tell him he's surrounded and to surrender.

Vader's response is chilling: 'All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men.' Whereupon he proceeds to fuck shit up. It still astonishes me that the movies have never shown the level of fuckery a full-blown Jedi can deal out.

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

So, here's what a StarWars.com writer thinks. We, the people buying tickets, are not customers of Star Wars. We are customers of the movie theater. If we buy the books, we're buying from the publisher. The toys, Hasbro. Yeah, because Disney and Lucasfilm aren't making money off those sales, it's the people licensing Star Wars.

Right. And if we don't support those licensees, why would they want to make Star Wars stuff again? It's like these folks don't understand how the economics works. My God, are they ever reaching to justify their behavior against those who don't like what they're selling. We also just had a comic writer lay out a bunch of guidelines for being a fan as well.

 

[Flexo]

I am reminded of the 'Vader Down' arc from Marvel's Darth Vader comic run, where Vader's fighter gets sideswiped by Luke, causing Vader to crash.

The Rebels deploy a truly ridiculous amount of infantry and air support to take Vader down, dead or alive. They use a bullhorn to tell him he's surrounded and to surrender.

Vader's response is chilling: 'All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men.' Whereupon he proceeds to fuck shit up. It still astonishes me that the movies have never shown the level of fuckery a full-blown Jedi can deal out.

Vader Down was a crossover between Vader and Star Wars comic proper. (And boy could i talk about the differences between new and old Vader...)

Also you're wrong, earlier media did show just how awesome jedi could be.
EDIT: Oh I see, you said "movies" not "media" - that was my bad. I still want to leave up this kick ass scene - no matter how much damage is inflicted on Droids (seriously that clip for us is like the goriest torture porn)

Thing is, Jedi are essentially an entire class of Mary Sues which means the stories always had a problem: how do you challenge them? How do they even fall? How could anybody forget or doubt their religion after a demonstration like that?

The answer was in the book I, Jedi - where it was proposed that Jedi would have strengths and weaknesses in the Force (what made Anakin special was no weakness).

Now Disney has screwed up even more by saying newbies can be that powerful without any training. Before there was at least a chance soldiers could bring down a padawan. Now Rey does the mind trick on her first try which is a concept so horrible i still can't believe more lefties aren't freaking out (and you think it would be more so to the #metoo and consent crowd).

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

Now Rey does the mind trick on her first try which is a concept so horrible i still can't believe more lefties aren't freaking out (and you think it would be more so to the #metoo and consent crowd).

It's not a problem to them because, in their minds, women are incapable of sexually assaulting someone.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Here's salt from someone insinuating that people who hate TLJ don't like change. Tbh I am not sure if they are worthy of a Lolcow thread cause they spend their time on twitter complaining about Trump and Star Wars.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

So, here's what a StarWars.com writer thinks. We, the people buying tickets, are not customers of Star Wars. We are customers of the movie theater. If we buy the books, we're buying from the publisher. The toys, Hasbro. Yeah, because Disney and Lucasfilm aren't making money off those sales, it's the people licensing Star Wars.

That's...really fucking dumb. If I'm going to the theater, it's not just because I want the theater experience, it's because I'm going to see a movie I'm excited to see. Yes, I am technically a paying customer for the theater, but I don't go to the theater just to be at the theater. The theater is a service, and that service is to show me movies I want to see.

I'm not a toy collector, but the Hasbro argument is also stupid, because it implies that I'm a fan of all of Hasbro's other toys, which is an idiotic generalization. I like Transformers but I don't like My Little Pony, but both are under Hasbro. Where does that place me then?

Goddamn this makes my head hurt.

 

[Flexo]

It's not a problem to them because, in their minds, women are incapable of sexually assaulting someone.

Yeah but that slave kid at the end of tLJ is a boy...

Really that was something i thought was a bad choice by lucas from the start as controlling minds should be a dark side desire, not a tool of the light side (which a lot of games played it as).

Really at times it almost seems like the empire et al are the preferable choice since they may be oppressive but they'll at least leave your mind alone. Meanwhile the good guys will wipe your mind and make you thank them for it.

No senator, i haven't forgotten what you did to C3PO... #justice4threepio

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

Here's salt from someone insinuating that people who hate TLJ don't like change. Tbh I am not sure if they are worthy of a Lolcow thread cause they spend their time on twitter complaining about Trump and Star Wars.

I don't know about his current exploits, but Alex Rochon aka peanut3424 aka The Autarch of Flame used to be a massive sped and his old videos are some of the most autistic things I've ever seen. The worst one is probably this one:

I would have linked part 1, but that video doesn't have audio anymore.

 

[Zaryiu]

Jesus, Jar Jar's fate in canon is bleak and kinda bums me out.

He went from the local lolcow for the Gungans to a complete social pariah who's one of the blames for the rise of the Empire. All his friends are either dead or were abusing his innocence in the first place so the only people he can interact with are the children that see his street proforming because they're too young to know his history. As far as I know he probably just dies of old age in his near complete isolation. There's nowhere he can go to be accepted or at least hold a conversation with anybody.

In Legends lore on the one hand he joined the Rebellion to atone for his mistake but on the other hand he was on Alderaan when it was destroyed

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

Chinese reviewers called them out that he and the other dude were there just to pander to them and found it insulting.

A popular review of TLJ over there called it an insult to the audience's intelligence, which became something of a meme regarding the movie. The Disney films are also seen as "white left," their term for SJWs.

Really at times it almost seems like the empire et al are the preferable choice since they may be oppressive but they'll at least leave your mind alone. Meanwhile the good guys will wipe your mind and make you thank them for it.

The Force itself is one big mess. You have canon materials that treat the light side as the natural state of the Force, with the dark side being the user corrupting it, while others treat both sides as part of the Force (they just revealed a line from the Jedi texts in the comics. The TLDR goes "Both the light and the dark come from the force, the Jedi chose the light because of what it reveals"). Hell, there's supposed to be a Prime Jedi in Disney canon, a first force user who balanced both the light and the dark. It really gets interesting when you have cases like KOTOR II dissecting it. Hell, Lucas himself at least tried to show the Jedi in the PT losing their way.

 

[Zaryiu]

Vader Down was a crossover between Vader and Star Wars comic proper. (And boy could i talk about the differences between new and old Vader...)

Also you're wrong, earlier media did show just how awesome jedi could be.
EDIT: Oh I see, you said "movies" not "media" - that was my bad. I still want to leave up this kick ass scene - no matter how much damage is inflicted on Droids (seriously that clip for us is like the goriest torture porn)

Thing is, Jedi are essentially an entire class of Mary Sues which means the stories always had a problem: how do you challenge them? How do they even fall? How could anybody forget or doubt their religion after a demonstration like that?

The answer was in the book I, Jedi - where it was proposed that Jedi would have strengths and weaknesses in the Force (what made Anakin special was no weakness).

Now Disney has screwed up even more by saying newbies can be that powerful without any training. Before there was at least a chance soldiers could bring down a padawan. Now Rey does the mind trick on her first try which is a concept so horrible i still can't believe more lefties aren't freaking out (and you think it would be more so to the #metoo and consent crowd).

I'm reminded of Kotor 2, both the ex-assassin and HK-47 pretty much point out Jedis we're not invincible and there more than one ways to kill one so that added with force weaknesses and carefully choose at how much strong in force the portrayed Jedi(s) could make it somewhat easier for a good writer to better handle writing a Jedi.
I miss when Star Wars was good

 

[knightlautrec]

Vader's response is chilling: 'All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men.' Whereupon he proceeds to fuck shit up. It still astonishes me that the movies have never shown the level of fuckery a full-blown Jedi can deal out.

Which is why for all it's faults The Force Unleashed was a very compelling game with it's force use. Pulling down a Star Destroyer with the Force is a cinematic moment that stands out in SW games and I remember how powerful it makes you physically feel. The main character didn't, however, have the likeability of Kyle Katarn from Jedi Knight which is a shame.

Just reading through this thread makes me feel a lot better. It's clear we all love the franchise and the setting but we're just done being raked over the coals and asked to stomach subpar movies. And the absolute gall of journalist and pop culture asshats to call dissatisfied fans 'not real fans' chaps my ass something bad. Being a fan of something doesn't mean blindly swallowing it's dick and balls.

 

[RockVolnutt]

I'm reminded of Kotor 2, both the ex-assassin and HK-47 pretty much point out Jedis we're not invincible and there more than one ways to kill one so that added with force weaknesses and carefully choose at how much strong in force the portrayed Jedi(s) could make it somewhat easier for a good writer to better handle writing a Jedi.
I miss when Star Wars was good

I always had the idea that they needed to focus to do the crazier stuff. Pretty sure there's some description for General Grievous out there that mentions part of what made him effective was the "What the flying fuck am I looking at?" factor that allowed him to rush them before they could get their guard up. SW is pretty bad with this where the Force can make someone a magical demigod one minute and barely better than some dude with a blaster the next but it's set up in a way where it's difficult to determine what's really an outlier. It's like trying to figure out anything other than extremely vague tiers in Green Lantern comics where a character's mood can have weird fluctuations in their power. Not necessarily a "problem" depending on the kind of story you want to tell.

They really ran with Vader's "The power to destroy a planet pales in comparison to the Force" line from A New Hope.

 

[Chester Rigby]

http://archive.is/hlUaG

The Boss Baby defines this era?!

AND PADDINGTON 2?!!!

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[Godzilla@1989]

The Boss Baby defines this era?!

AND PADDINGTON 2?!!!

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I was expecting Get Out to be on there.

 

[BScCollateral]

Of the new generation. I've only seen Rogue One. Didn't like it. Nobody's made a Star Wars film I liked since Reagan was elected.

That said, my impression is that future editions of the Peter Principle will be illustrated with a picture of Kathleen Kennedy.

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]