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What the fuck did he think we did here? It's pretty much our mission statement. What a fucking moron.
NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus
- Thread starter José Mourinho
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Best post in that thread, and the 1st one to actually have some degree of sense..
This poster must have zero hygiene in his personal life, probably a cuck too:
There's a lot more, I just couldn't find it in me to dig further through the ERA degeneracy.
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This poster must have zero hygiene in his personal life, probably a cuck too:
Holy shit that's disgusting. I love how that site wants to act like the hight of right side of history morality and it's filled with gross degenerates like this. What is wrong with your head that you think that's acceptable? Social justice or :autism: doesn't really explain it.
Muh_Soggy_Knee
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I wonder if Todd Howard triggered them we he called his audience "Degenerates"...?
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/9903210/
How the fuck is this thread still going?
The "First they came for" poem/speech included communists despite the author vehemently hating communists because he realized that dehumanizing anybody and allowing them to be harmed/persecuted was wrong. Its amazing how the Trump derangement syndrome has lead them down a similar path to the Nazis.
How the fuck is this thread still going?
The "First they came for" poem/speech included communists despite the author vehemently hating communists because he realized that dehumanizing anybody and allowing them to be harmed/persecuted was wrong. Its amazing how the Trump derangement syndrome has lead them down a similar path to the Nazis.
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Did he steal that idea from Iron Man?
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Why is it that most of the people who complain about cultural appropriation are either white people or
Americanized descendants of that culture who were born in the USA and haven't even been to the country they're speaking on behalf of?
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A liberal on reddit is unhappy with RE's moderation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8v7s8i/the_failure_of_liberal_moderation_on_gamings/
VidiotGamer has the right idea:
The failure of liberal moderation on gaming's biggest forum, resetera
(self.Drama)
submitted 9 hours ago by asmrkage
I'd like to share my story of having an account on resetera. I was user "arkage" for those who want to look up receipts. I view myself as 80% liberal and 20% moderate. I was recently banned twice within the span of about a week, despite having an account since the beginning of the forum that frequently posted in controversial topics as well as regular ones, and through an email conversation with the mods decided to request by account permanently banned. Some in here might find this story interesting, even if they don't agree with me or my position outright.
My first ban was over my criticism of how a kotaku article on sexism was hypocritical (https://www.resetera.com/threads/ko...n-felt-like-a-relic-of-the-past.50090/page-12). I might've been strawmaning as I didn't read the article in depth but rather skimmed it, so I accepted this ban without much thought, and reflected that it wasn't a high effort post on my part. Whatever.
Next came the topic of whether Sam Harris/Maher was a "bigot." As a longtime listener of Harris I put up a defense I thought was reasonable, explaining why he wasn't a bigot (https://www.resetera.com/threads/guardian-sam-harris-and-bill-maher-are-bigots.51740/page-2). I was again banned, initially for one week pending review. I know the topic of race IQ difference is sensitive, but I also thought my post was a neutral explanation of how that topic was address by Harris in previous podcasts and articles. I emailed the mods about the ban asking for an explanation, and pointed out that even Ezra Klein, who debated Harris on the subject and who is a full-throated social justice advocated, agreed that Murray's theory is indeed a possibility. Here is the email I sent:
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"Hello, I was hoping for a deeper explanation of my current ban (username arkage) so hopefully this email can get passed to the mod team. I believe it was because I said the following in my post defending Harris:
"[Ezra and Harris] make legitimate points revolving around the race/IQ debate. Ezra thinks the history of slavery and discrimination has a strong systemic impact on IQ results. Harris thinks the data may or may not be impacted by slavery/discrimination at this point in time and that one should be able to argue for either side without being called a "bigot". Neither of them claim to make decisive, absolute claims or know for certain why racial IQ differences exist."
I pointed out that Harris takes a neutral stance of the causes of the race-IQ gap, as he clearly states in the podcast with Ezra Klein, and that he believes Murray's theory may or may not be correct. This is me "rationalizing racism" in the words of the moderator. To counter this, here is part of the rebuttal Ezra Klein wrote to the podcast Harris originally had Charles Murray (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ace-iq-forbidden-knowledge-podcast-bell-curve)
"This is also, notably, Reich’s conclusion in the op-ed Harris enthusiastically promotes and uses for his jab at me. “Whatever discoveries are made,” Reich says, “we truly have no idea yet what they will be.” If that had been the tenor of Harris’s conversation with Murray — if they had simply observed the existence of a racial IQ gap (that has already closed substantially over time), hypothesized that advances in genetics might one day reveal group differences, and then cautioned that no one knows anything yet — there would be no controversy."
Had I typed this word for word I imagine I would receive the same exact ban since "genetics might one day reveal group differences" implies it's a possible theory, just as Harris believes. Ezra is confirming that nobody can confirm if the racial-IQ gap is purely genetic or purely environment or a mix of the two. Murray's theory isn't what Ezra took issue with - it's that Murray then wants to enact social policies based on the currently incomplete data that may further disenfranchise black people if turns out to be wrong. Harris agrees that social policy shouldn't reflect Murray's theory, and remains skeptical of why Murray would research the topic in the first place. This can all be heard and confirmed in the podcast they had.
I understand the mods don't have to time for deep dives into these kinds of topics, but banning me for a week outright for something like this seems like a slip back into the old days of moderation. Thanks for your time.
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This was resetera's response:
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Hello, thank you for reaching out. This is an extremely sensitive topic which has a great deal more potential to hurt other members than it has potential for valuable discussion. Our best advice is to simply avoid such topics in the future if you're uncertain about how your argument might be received.
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The night of this response, my ban had gone under review and was increased from one week to two weeks. The warning message when I logged in read that a further infraction would result in a "severe" consequence, which I could only interpret to mean a permanent ban. I sent another email:
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"Thank you for the reply. My ban was just extended from one to two weeks after review. This is despite me clarifying that Ezra Klein, a leading voice of social justice in the IQ debate, confirms my neutral description of the theories in play. I understand the topic is sensitive and I'm fine not bringing it up again if this is now forum policy, but this topic was clearly ok to debate during the Ezra Harris thread from April in which I and other members made this same exact argument in much greater detail without even a warning let alone a ban (https://www.resetera.com/threads/vo...y-and-the-allure-of-race-science.32416/page-6). What I don't understand is why I'm being banned for two weeks. If this is non negotiable I'd prefer a permanent ban, as it's clear my account won't survive much longer in such a now ideologically driven forum who's mods are unable to recognize the difference between a clearly neutral theory description that I already previously made in detail a month ago (as did others) and..... "rationalizing racism."
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The final two responses in this exchange:
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While your request for a permanent ban is unfortunate, we respect it and have granted it.
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(my final response) Unfortunate? The 2 week ban warned I would suffer "severe" consequences if there was another incident. Save the sanctimony for those deemed worthy by the mods.
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In all, I think Resetera mods are still.... OK. For example, there are people literally still arguing in the Harris thread I was banned in, advocating the same exact position I was, specifically Ralemont and Thales Targaryen (https://www.resetera.com/threads/guardian-sam-harris-and-bill-maher-are-bigots.51740/page-12). I feel rather that my account had become singled out as a type of "trouble maker" and that-was-that as far as any explanation goes. I'll be heading back to neoGAF despite it having a lower population at this point, and I'll likely be arguing against conservative positions most of the time rather than extreme liberal ones as I did on resetera. But in the end, I view this as a total failure of the moderation team to take responsibility for their own misunderstandings on a controversial subject, and to play favorites with those who they appreciate being there and those they don't. But that is their right. And it is my right to bitch about it wherever I can. I could've done a final bomb on their off-topic bitching about them, but I'm too old to schedule my time around an ideologically driven shit fest.
(self.Drama)
submitted 9 hours ago by asmrkage
I'd like to share my story of having an account on resetera. I was user "arkage" for those who want to look up receipts. I view myself as 80% liberal and 20% moderate. I was recently banned twice within the span of about a week, despite having an account since the beginning of the forum that frequently posted in controversial topics as well as regular ones, and through an email conversation with the mods decided to request by account permanently banned. Some in here might find this story interesting, even if they don't agree with me or my position outright.
My first ban was over my criticism of how a kotaku article on sexism was hypocritical (https://www.resetera.com/threads/ko...n-felt-like-a-relic-of-the-past.50090/page-12). I might've been strawmaning as I didn't read the article in depth but rather skimmed it, so I accepted this ban without much thought, and reflected that it wasn't a high effort post on my part. Whatever.
Next came the topic of whether Sam Harris/Maher was a "bigot." As a longtime listener of Harris I put up a defense I thought was reasonable, explaining why he wasn't a bigot (https://www.resetera.com/threads/guardian-sam-harris-and-bill-maher-are-bigots.51740/page-2). I was again banned, initially for one week pending review. I know the topic of race IQ difference is sensitive, but I also thought my post was a neutral explanation of how that topic was address by Harris in previous podcasts and articles. I emailed the mods about the ban asking for an explanation, and pointed out that even Ezra Klein, who debated Harris on the subject and who is a full-throated social justice advocated, agreed that Murray's theory is indeed a possibility. Here is the email I sent:
-----------------------------------------
"Hello, I was hoping for a deeper explanation of my current ban (username arkage) so hopefully this email can get passed to the mod team. I believe it was because I said the following in my post defending Harris:
"[Ezra and Harris] make legitimate points revolving around the race/IQ debate. Ezra thinks the history of slavery and discrimination has a strong systemic impact on IQ results. Harris thinks the data may or may not be impacted by slavery/discrimination at this point in time and that one should be able to argue for either side without being called a "bigot". Neither of them claim to make decisive, absolute claims or know for certain why racial IQ differences exist."
I pointed out that Harris takes a neutral stance of the causes of the race-IQ gap, as he clearly states in the podcast with Ezra Klein, and that he believes Murray's theory may or may not be correct. This is me "rationalizing racism" in the words of the moderator. To counter this, here is part of the rebuttal Ezra Klein wrote to the podcast Harris originally had Charles Murray (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ace-iq-forbidden-knowledge-podcast-bell-curve)
"This is also, notably, Reich’s conclusion in the op-ed Harris enthusiastically promotes and uses for his jab at me. “Whatever discoveries are made,” Reich says, “we truly have no idea yet what they will be.” If that had been the tenor of Harris’s conversation with Murray — if they had simply observed the existence of a racial IQ gap (that has already closed substantially over time), hypothesized that advances in genetics might one day reveal group differences, and then cautioned that no one knows anything yet — there would be no controversy."
Had I typed this word for word I imagine I would receive the same exact ban since "genetics might one day reveal group differences" implies it's a possible theory, just as Harris believes. Ezra is confirming that nobody can confirm if the racial-IQ gap is purely genetic or purely environment or a mix of the two. Murray's theory isn't what Ezra took issue with - it's that Murray then wants to enact social policies based on the currently incomplete data that may further disenfranchise black people if turns out to be wrong. Harris agrees that social policy shouldn't reflect Murray's theory, and remains skeptical of why Murray would research the topic in the first place. This can all be heard and confirmed in the podcast they had.
I understand the mods don't have to time for deep dives into these kinds of topics, but banning me for a week outright for something like this seems like a slip back into the old days of moderation. Thanks for your time.
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This was resetera's response:
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Hello, thank you for reaching out. This is an extremely sensitive topic which has a great deal more potential to hurt other members than it has potential for valuable discussion. Our best advice is to simply avoid such topics in the future if you're uncertain about how your argument might be received.
--------------------------------------
The night of this response, my ban had gone under review and was increased from one week to two weeks. The warning message when I logged in read that a further infraction would result in a "severe" consequence, which I could only interpret to mean a permanent ban. I sent another email:
--------------------------------------
"Thank you for the reply. My ban was just extended from one to two weeks after review. This is despite me clarifying that Ezra Klein, a leading voice of social justice in the IQ debate, confirms my neutral description of the theories in play. I understand the topic is sensitive and I'm fine not bringing it up again if this is now forum policy, but this topic was clearly ok to debate during the Ezra Harris thread from April in which I and other members made this same exact argument in much greater detail without even a warning let alone a ban (https://www.resetera.com/threads/vo...y-and-the-allure-of-race-science.32416/page-6). What I don't understand is why I'm being banned for two weeks. If this is non negotiable I'd prefer a permanent ban, as it's clear my account won't survive much longer in such a now ideologically driven forum who's mods are unable to recognize the difference between a clearly neutral theory description that I already previously made in detail a month ago (as did others) and..... "rationalizing racism."
------------------------------------
The final two responses in this exchange:
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While your request for a permanent ban is unfortunate, we respect it and have granted it.
-----------------------------------
(my final response) Unfortunate? The 2 week ban warned I would suffer "severe" consequences if there was another incident. Save the sanctimony for those deemed worthy by the mods.
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In all, I think Resetera mods are still.... OK. For example, there are people literally still arguing in the Harris thread I was banned in, advocating the same exact position I was, specifically Ralemont and Thales Targaryen (https://www.resetera.com/threads/guardian-sam-harris-and-bill-maher-are-bigots.51740/page-12). I feel rather that my account had become singled out as a type of "trouble maker" and that-was-that as far as any explanation goes. I'll be heading back to neoGAF despite it having a lower population at this point, and I'll likely be arguing against conservative positions most of the time rather than extreme liberal ones as I did on resetera. But in the end, I view this as a total failure of the moderation team to take responsibility for their own misunderstandings on a controversial subject, and to play favorites with those who they appreciate being there and those they don't. But that is their right. And it is my right to bitch about it wherever I can. I could've done a final bomb on their off-topic bitching about them, but I'm too old to schedule my time around an ideologically driven shit fest.
VidiotGamer has the right idea:
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"Gaming's biggest forum?" Bitch, please.
GameFAQs has over ten times ResetERA's monthlies if you stick to the forums alone.
Fucking NeoGAF has over twice ResetERA's fucking viewcount and usercount.
In fact, all currently mainstay video gaming forums are doing better than ResetERA by a factor of 2 or more. More commonly around 12 or so, but hey. Check any fucking website that analyzes traffic. ResetERA is doing the worst out of any such site.
GameFAQs has over ten times ResetERA's monthlies if you stick to the forums alone.
Fucking NeoGAF has over twice ResetERA's fucking viewcount and usercount.
In fact, all currently mainstay video gaming forums are doing better than ResetERA by a factor of 2 or more. More commonly around 12 or so, but hey. Check any fucking website that analyzes traffic. ResetERA is doing the worst out of any such site.
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Because for all their rhetoric about white people being evil, deep down they believe that non-white cultures need #WOKE white folks to defend and protect them. They consider "POC" to be so helpless that they need Whitey's help to succeed in society and they infantalize them with this racist viewpoint, not understanding that it's really obvious that's what they're on about. It's a strange sort of Noble Savage thing.
TL;DR Racists who've taken intro sociology classes being racists.
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This is in spite of best efforts to treat ResetEra just like the original NeoGaf by Press and people within popular posters circles. For people who still follow gaming press, it's true they've replaced NeoGaf as that's the memo been given to games press. I know people sort of are curious about it but well...there's also far less people who follow the press to get the memo after the great holy autism war : P
I have an account at GAF, I will never sign up to Era because it's basically 2015-2017 GAF but with the shit moderation power-trips turned up to 11. I'ld rather walk on a trail of lego bits as it's approximately the same experience anyway.
Muh_Soggy_Knee
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ResetREA is so bad...I saw Resetera users coming back to NeoGAF. Myself included.
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Because only incredibly privileged people even have the time to bitch about utterly ridiculous bullshit like this.
Salted caramel tears
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Because no one else gives a flying fuck about cultural appropriation.
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What exactly is this "white people's culture" thing, considering that white countries are all quite different from each other and don't make up a single cultural monolith? What makes the actions of white oppressors different from those of non white oppressors, considering that history is full of "non white" empires and oppressors that were just as or even more brutal than "white" empires and oppressors? Is it okay for marginalized groups in non white countries to be hateful against members of the non white but dominant culture (because you never hear these people say that, for example, it's okay for black people to hurl racial slurs at Arabs, despite the Arab world's history of anti-black racism and enslavement of black people)? If white people were to become a "marginalized culture", would it be okay for them to be hateful against members of whatever racial group that would be dominant?
I have a hard time wrapping my head around these people's worldview because it's just so incredibly riddled with inconsistencies and mental gymnastics. They claim to be enlightened and anti-oppression but at the same time they are historically illiterate and so imperialistic that they think that "white people" is a culture and that the rest of the world – notably Europe – has the exact same history and social and cultural dynamics as the United States (or at least what they perceive to be the social and cultural dynamics of the United States).
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you're overthinking and giving them too much credit.
to them: white= bad and evil
brown and black=good and innocent.
they dont even care that black people are still enslaved to this day, in arabs countries but, they still bitch about american slavery, which stopped being a thing ages ago.
they just want an excuse to bash on whitey.
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If you want to make them lose their shit, bring up that the countries where Slavery persists are run by nonwhites.
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They'll just reply by saying that the evil white people made them do it; it's how they excuse the fact that many Asian countries are racist against blacks.
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We are a forum whose primary purpose is to derive joy and laughter from the salt of those who take themselves too seriously, but I can still say I'm proud to be part of a community that can have actual conversations instead of descending into lynchmobs. In fact I consider the two ideas to be quite linked.
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I try not to be a piece of shit and post stuff that maybe non trans people would find interesting coming from a trans person. I really do just want people to understand not everyone of us is a piece of shit.