Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[X-Shaped Weeaboo]

"They only started coming after me once I started condemning pedophillia!"

No, bitch, you just conveniently started paying attention to them. Those things are mutually exclusive.

If you start a fire and a couple people tell you to stop starting fires, you don't get to say "No u" just because they're only putting out one fire.

 

[chadmuska]

The amount of money is hidden, the amount of Patrons isn't.
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https://graphtreon.com/creator/Valkyrstudios

 

[That Dumb Derp]

That's... a rather large range of possible donations, and puts things into a bizarre perspective. If she's in fact getting alot from her fans (and if the likes of Steve "Destiny" Bonnel II have shown us, cultish Lolcows have a tendency to have very supportive cultists), then she's making more a month on Patreon than most people get on minimum wage or on Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Granted, the potential of $2K isn't THAT much, but it's still enough to live relatively comfortably.

If Lily can justify herself not getting a job despite constantly claiming that she's in the pits, it's very likely that she's not in the pits. Or she's fucking lazy.

 

[saladimitate]

That's... a rather large range of possible donations, and puts things into a bizarre perspective. If she's in fact getting alot from her fans (and if the likes of Steve "Destiny" Bonnel II have shown us, cultish Lolcows have a tendency to have very supportive cultists), then she's making more a month on Patreon than most people get on minimum wage or on Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Granted, the potential of $2K isn't THAT much, but it's still enough to live relatively comfortably.

If Lily can justify herself not getting a job despite constantly claiming that she's in the pits, it's very likely that she's not in the pits. Or she's fucking lazy.

Although, if you make a rough sum based off the amount of Patrons he credits on each of his videos, you can make a rough estimate of what he earns on Patreon. IIRC saturnstar made this sum recently: http://asksaturnstar.tumblr.com/post/175144779542/rough-estimate-of-lilys-patreon
And this was around the time he still had around 200 Patrons. Again, if I recall correctly.
So, with only Patreon, he can't come around each month, he literally is dependable on his Youtube.

 

[The Iconoclast]

Just thought of something.

Remember DaddyOFive, and how the parents emphasized that their children weren't being abused, though they clearly were?

That's Ebara, with how they defend beating Jerry up.

 

[Kamenshin]

Although, if you make a rough sum based off the amount of Patrons he credits on each of his videos, you can make a rough estimate of what he earns on Patreon. IIRC saturnstar made this sum recently: http://asksaturnstar.tumblr.com/post/175144779542/rough-estimate-of-lilys-patreon
And this was around the time he still had around 200 Patrons. Again, if I recall correctly.
So, with only Patreon, he can't come around each month, he literally is dependable on his Youtube.

Josh definitely has fewer patrons, but his supporters give him more money.

Isn't that how the platform was meant to be used in the first place? Giving large(r) donations at a time, instead of these nickle-and-dime transactions that these fools pay?

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

https://archive.is/o6OGm

https://archive.is/h6UFR

So apparently the arbitrary combination of a character having the attributes of "White" and "Powerful" means that there's an underlying White Supremacist message in Steven Universe.
Does this sound like the most contrived conclusion ever, or is that just me?
Would it be a Black Supremacist message, if the most powerful Gem was Black Diamond instead?

 

[Ben Laden]

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https://archive.is/o6OGm

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https://archive.is/h6UFR

So apparently the arbitrary combination of a character who has the attributes of "White" and "Powerful" means that there's an underlying White Supremacist message in Steven Universe.
Does this sound like the most contrived conclusion ever, or is that just me?
Would it be a Black Supremacist message, if the most powerful Gem was Black Diamond instead?

Would it be blue supremacist if Blue Diamond was the most powerful?

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

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https://archive.is/o6OGm

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https://archive.is/h6UFR

So apparently the arbitrary combination of a character having the attributes of "White" and "Powerful" means that there's an underlying White Supremacist message in Steven Universe.
Does this sound like the most contrived conclusion ever, or is that just me?
Would it be a Black Supremacist message, if the most powerful Gem was Black Diamond instead?

Steven Universe, a show with mainly non-white characters and VAs is white supremacist. Some fucking how.

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

https://archive.is/drbg3

Apparently Supremacist propaganda is as simple as having a character who is powerful and has a certain colouration. Some-fucking-how.

https://archive.is/DZ6OI

I don't think Lily quite understands what "undercurrent" means. That the Gem Empire is basically Space Nazis is so blatantly on the nose they couldn't make it more obvious. It's literally all the characterisation they get.

 

[X-Shaped Weeaboo]

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https://archive.is/drbg3

Apparently Supremacist propaganda is as simple as having a character who is powerful and has a certain colouration. Some-fucking-how.

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https://archive.is/DZ6OI

I don't think Lily quite understands what "undercurrent" means. That the Gem Empire is basically Space Nazis is so blatantly on the nose they couldn't make it more obvious. It's literally all the characterisation they get.

The. Nazis. Do. Not. Own. The. Idea. Of. Conquest. And. Supremacy.

These. Things. Have. Existed. For. Years.

Emulating. These. Concepts. Is. Not. Inherently. Referencing. Nazi. Germany.

Jerry, you're such a fucking hack critic, for real.

 

[The Iconoclast]

Spoiler: My Original Post

I don’t watch Steven Universe, but if white supremacy was as prevalent and “nakedly obvious” in Steven Universe, wouldn’t there be more people pointing it out?

I’m fucking sick of Jerry (not so much in a vitriolic way, rather in the same way someone gets sick of hearing a joke and it bores them after a while) because this is the kind of shit he does. He makes a statement that is either blatantly wrong or outrageous, both without backing, and, when met with backlash for saying it by people who typically know what they’re talking about, he backpedals and hides under the guise of “I’m just pointing out bigotry! I’m absolutely right! You are all racist Nazis who want me dead for saying that I’m not!” Aaaand he virtue signals to his fans to strengthen his hugbox. “Criticizing Lily means you want to kill her! Here are a few handpicked inbox messages showing that!”

It happened with a relatively small group of gamers he managed to piss off back when GG was a hot topic, it happened with bronies, it happened again with bronies, it happened with Legend of Korra fans and people on GamerGhazi, and it happened at one point with some other redditors who liked Steven Universe; it’s liable to happen again with this pretentious, disingenuous “Steven Universe is totes preaching wyte supremacy guyz, it’s so nakedly obvious! If you point it out, people’s panties will be in a bunch because they don’t like being called racist!“ attitude of his.

Jerry, if you’re so convinced that SU has a “nakedly obvious undercurrent of white supremacy” within its many frames of animation, then, for once, just once in your miserable, poverty-stricken, defamation-flinging, lesbian-fetishizing, pedophile tranny life,

SHOW
EVIDENCE.

It’s really not that hard.

Well, I'll be. As I was typing that, the Captain shared a post with Jerry actually showing evidence of his claim that Steven Universe had a "nakedly obvious undercurrent of white supremacy". That's improvement.

Though. You know.

If something was as clear-cut as that, how is it an "undercurrent"? That, and, well, yeah. I was about to type what @X-Shaped Weeaboo just said but he beat me to the punch by a literal moment.

 

[X-Shaped Weeaboo]

If something was as clear-cut as that, how is it an "undercurrent"?

You can't be on the nose and subtle at the same fucking time, Jerry.

Either the themes are blatant and you're somehow the only person that's picked it up or the themes are subtle enough to be reasonably assumed that you pulled them right out of your fucking ass.

Christ, this is so stupid. I've never dealt with such a fraudulent intellectual who was so constantly huffing his own anus on every fucking discussion he tries to have, it almost hurts.

…almost.

 

[Ben Laden]

Let's assume this is totally intentional. Let's also assume that, given what the show is about, Steven will manage to change her mind about the narrow role gems play within homeworld's society, freeing gemkind from the oppressive, 'white supremacist' ruler. What is wrong with a possible antagonist creating a negative society that exists for the good guy main character to deconstruct with his diversity and friendship?

"Wah, this bad guy is too mean! She shouldn't be a white supremacist! She should be a black one, because that's less mean!"

 

[Armored Hero Fanfic]

Let's assume this is totally intentional. Let's also assume that, given what the show is about, Steven will manage to change her mind about the narrow role gems play within homeworld's society, freeing gemkind from the oppressive, 'white supremacist' ruler. What is wrong with a possible antagonist creating a negative society that exists for the good guy main character to deconstruct with his diversity and friendship?

"Wah, this bad guy is too mean! She shouldn't be a white supremacist! She should be a black one, because that's less mean!"

at risk of off topicness The "SU Critical" section of that fandom is every shade if absurdly stupid by default. Peet/Orchard isn't especially unique in their views...though I will admit they are the only one to my knowledge to regularly push the Nazi/White Supremacist angle with the homeworld gems. So you know, there is that.


EDIT. So slow day and I'm just gonna edit in some more bitching about SU into this post instead of double posting.

https://archive.fo/wE78l

https://archive.fo/asvPq

"I don't care that it's a kid show where optimism and pacifism are the name of the game! KILL THE BAD GUYS"

https://archive.li/PJLpb

'Ree' doesn't quite hold the weight necessary to boil this post into it's core component.

I'd genuinely like to see what would happen if you put Peet/Orchard into a lead writing position on a kids show just to see how quickly they'd alienate the whole staff and be fired over it

 

[Devil-Man]

I can't necessarily comment since I have not watched Steven Universe.

On a side note, I have downloaded all of Peet's YouTube videos, both from the archive and from his channel (and I will continue to download any new content he uploads).

Better safe than sorry.

 

[The Iconoclast]

So his whole argument boils down to “I don’t like redeemed villains, stop redeeming villains”?

It’s not like, historically, the concept has done well and provided good story and plot points, Naruto being a standout example, but that’s anime, and liking it means I want to rape women or something, according to Jerry, who thinks everyone who watches it is a pervert.

But hey, Jerry, by all means, go after Steven Universe. Like MLP, I have no emotional attachment to it, so it’ll be fun to see it get heckled by you, and you’ll get little resistance from us for it.

Edit: to clarify my point, because I might have just done an autism; redeeming a villain isn’t always good or done right. But Jerry’s problem with the concept isn’t the instance, it’s the concept itself. My point is that there have been times when redeeming a villain has worked, but Jerry ignores it because he hates the concept thanks to his absolutist “us vs them” perspective.

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

So his whole argument boils down to “I don’t like redeemed villains, stop redeeming villains”?

It’s not like, historically, the concept has done well and provided good story and plot points, Naruto being a standout example, but that’s anime, and liking it means I want to rape women or something, according to Jerry, who thinks everyone who watches it is a pervert.

But hey, Jerry, by all means, go after Steven Universe. Like MLP, I have no emotional attachment to it, so it’ll be fun to see it get heckled by you, and you’ll get little resistance from us for it.

Edit: to clarify my point, because I might have just done an autism; redeeming a villain isn’t always good or done right. But Jerry’s problem with the concept isn’t the instance, it’s the concept itself. My point is that there have been times when redeeming a villain has worked, but Jerry ignores it because he hates the concept thanks to his absolutist “us vs them” perspective.

To be entirely fair on this one, going by the content of her videos and blog posts, Lily's problem isn't in redeeming villains per se but in redeeming extremely vile and evil villains.

Going by MLP characters for example, she was a fan of Sunset Shimmer's redemption, because Sunset spend most of her villain time as a bully with a magical powerup at the end and was subsequently beaten into a literal crater by the heroes. And in her next appearance she was shown to have been severely punished for her crimes and needed to work on earning her redeemption in the eyes of her peers.

She actually used that in one of her videos as an example of how to do a villain redemption arc right.

So it's more that she hates it when villains she doesn't deem redeemable get redeemed in a way she doesn't like.

 

[The Iconoclast]

Here’s a relevant meme. This fits Jerry and his defenders to a T.

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

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Here’s a relevant meme. This fits Jerry and his defenders to a T.

That is pretty damn accurate, yeah.

Edit: New stuff from Lily.

https://archive.fo/I73jg

Well isn't that attitude bloody well convinient for you?

https://archive.fo/BXT12

Remember, Lily's rules only apply to Lily. Everyone else has to operate on a different set.

https://archive.fo/6OxuR

Does source URL mean the URL by which a post is archived? Because that's bloody convinient for her, seeing as how she tends to delete stuff.