Null's Gambit - My attempt at getting Chris to talk openly

[Subconcious Offense]

This will be an interesting experiment in intentions vs results.

Drink a shot every time Chris says "among which" under oath.

 

[wellthathappened]

Drink a shot every time Chris says "among which" under oath.

This doesn't seem like a good idea.

 

[Yop Yop]

This is clear extortion, autistic LARPing or not. Threatening to release videos that will frame someone as a pedo is plain and simple blackmail, and the amount of money that they got out of Chris is sickening. I don't think the case will be as easily dismissed as some of you think.

Chris is disconnected from reality and really needs help. He has been insane for years, just look at the time he cut open his taint to release a pussy. These morons managed to pull him farther and farther from reality, and I think it's to a point where Chris really needs assisted living. The ramblings you see in these messages are reminiscent of someone in psychosis.

Godspeed Null. I hope you get justice for Chris and he ends up with a more healthy living situation.

If my son showed me a picture of a dick he drew on the wall, he'd be in a group home for sure

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Does Barb know about the situation? I mean I can’t imagine she’d be happy about Chris getting scammed out of six grand and would be pretty proactive about getting Chris to do everything he can to get his money back.

Although I understand if Chris would rather not involve her and it’s a good idea with the therapist because she can back up that Chris is incredibly naive and easily led.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

Does Barb know about the situation? I mean I can’t imagine she’d be happy about Chris getting scammed out of six grand and would be pretty proactive about getting Chris to do everything he can to get his money back.

Although I understand if Chris would rather not involve her and it’s a good idea with the therapist because she can back up that Chris is incredibly naive and easily led.

Does she even know what year it is?

 

[Muscle Bra]

"Private interactions with untrusted people will inevitably lead to you being manipulated or harmed" is a concept simple enough that even Chris could understand.

I'm not quite sure I agree with this. Most autistics have a very black-and-white worldview and there is a whole lot of gray area here -- not only is "private interactions" difficult to define but "untrusted people" is wide open for misinterpretation. Hell, for all we know,
Chris could have completely trusted the Idea Guys, which would render your point moot.

Due to the confidentiality crap the therapist wouldn't be able to respond or ask questions in response to these emails without permission from Chris. Even then, I worry they'd be disregarded due to the circumstances. The therapist could certainly still read them though, no stopping that. It's worth a shot.

As many have mentioned, it would be difficult on the legal end. HIPPA is taken extremely seriously, and I'd imagine Chris would be signing many documents to have a successful team behind him.

I think you folks have the concepts of HIPAA and doctor-patient confidentiality backwards. These are duties owed to the patient and prevent the provider from sharing information with most third parties.

There is nothing that would prevent a doctor/therapist from reading a letter sent to him/her from a third party concerning a patient, and then he/she could decide whether to take it seriously and/or act on it. Hell, I don't even see a problem with him/her contacting the writer of the letter for more information, as long as the doctor didn't do anything that could reveal anything regarding his or her treatment/diagnosis of Chris.

Is there a community legal centre near Chris? At some point in any legal process Chris is going to have to tell the story in his own words, both to those investigating the complaint and eventually to a court. It's going to be very difficult for him to do that in any coherent way without some kind of advocate helping him.

You know, this is a damn good idea. Many law schools have legal clinics where second and third year law students (under the supervision of licensed lawyers) provide free legal help to select parties. Since I would be very surprised to learn that UVA law school doesn't have a clinic, perhaps Chris and his "staff" (I joke, I joke) could apply at the UVA civil clinic and see if they could help Chris sue the Idea Guys for extortion or conversion of his funds.

 

[Null]

I am just curious if Chris is really even half serious in pursuing these fuckers.

He went to the police and filed a report like we asked, he's going to bring it up with the counsellors now, what exactly do you think he can or should do?

 

[Kosher Dill]

what exactly do you think he can or should do?

Has he put them in the Lego Shaker yet?

 

[Okkervils]

Hell, I don't even see a problem with him/her contacting the writer of the letter for more information, as long as the doctor didn't do anything that could reveal anything regarding his or her treatment/diagnosis of Chris.

Part of HIPPA includes not even revealing if you're treating a certain patient. A response inquiring over the contents of the letter/email could indicate that, yes, the therapist is treating that patient.

If there's written consent from Chris, that changes things but still leaves it in a murky area ethically considering the circumstances of the extortion and Chris' past with the internet.

Don't get me wrong, I think it would be helpful. I'm just skeptical it will be that simple.

 

[repentance]

You know, this is a damn good idea. Many law schools have legal clinics where second and third year law students (under the supervision of licensed lawyers) provide free legal help to select parties. Since I would be very surprised to learn that UVA law school doesn't have a clinic, perhaps Chris and his "staff" (I joke, I joke) could apply at the UVA civil clinic and see if they could help Chris sue the Idea Guys for extortion or conversion of his funds.

Community legal services usually have all kinds of rules about what types of cases they'll assist with, but civil action might not be a bad idea. Even if the scumbags are effectively judgement proof at the moment, a judgment against them will go on their credit records. I know that some places allow the enforcement period to be extended at least once, although I have no idea if Chris's state is one of them.

It would at least be some kind of consequence if nothing happens on the criminal action front.

 

[whyCWC]

I think I just found my new avatar.

Rest in Peace, Franky Gee

 

[Luigi]

I lost it at "I don't want to tell them about my Reality Stone." And it was right at the end of the first picture, too

No prose will ever achieve such a magnificent hook ever again, thanks for ruining books forever.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Yeah, after his first response was 100% ignore Null, I couldn't even bother continuing.

I would have responded to "Have you heard of the Reality Stone" with "Chris, have you heard of "Reality?" Learn about that, and thats how to never get scammed again."

Edit: Typed it out better on my mac. Was on my iPhone on the ferry earlier.

 

[idosometimes]

Best course of action to to not get involved. Chris does not understand that this is serious. He cannot. he is a slow-in-the-mind who lives in the immediate present. No future. No past. Just now. Now NOW NOW!!!

Chris is easy target. He always will be. He believes in other worlds and was scammed by a cult that he created. Unless you want full time job watching him, you are better off letting someone else handle it. Barb and Bob completely screwed up his life. The only good thing Bob ever did for him was die. When his mom dies off, he will go from not-quite-right to insane-in-the-membrane. Then the state will have to figure something out or he will die on the street.

This is not really funny anymore. Nothing if left of the sweet mentally differently abled boy who told us to not fart in anyone's face lest they get pink eye and encouraged us to stay straight. All we are left with is the sadness of watching a middle age woman get taken by hillbilly scammers and crying about the crisis of the day.

 

[Nurse Ratchet]

Does Barb know about the situation? I mean I can’t imagine she’d be happy about Chris getting scammed out of six grand and would be pretty proactive about getting Chris to do everything he can to get his money back.

Although I understand if Chris would rather not involve her and it’s a good idea with the therapist because she can back up that Chris is incredibly naive and easily led.

Derpy invalid or not, I'm pretty sure she gathered that something was amiss when he punched her in the face. "Lightly" or not.

 

[Mason Verger]

Derpy invalid or not, I'm pretty sure she gathered that something was amiss when he punched her in the face. "Lightly" or not.

I wonder if Chris keeps a secret slush account for "extra" money. Six grand would be a hell of a noticeable dent, and it wasn't spread out over that long of a period. Four months? Maybe less?

It's said that barb watches Chris's money like vulture, I can't believe she wouldn't do anything if she knew.

 

[Nurse Ratchet]

I wonder if Chris keeps a secret slush account for "extra" money. Six grand would be a hell of a noticeable dent, and it wasn't spread out over that long of a period. Four months? Maybe less?

It's said that barb watches Chris's money like vulture, I can't believe she wouldn't do anything if she knew.

I dunno.. he seems to lack both the self control & the shit-tier DSPesque propensity for malicious fake-begging just to add to the secret mountain of cash reserves...

Barb, however.. she has all the requisite malice, but none of the self-control.

So I gotta go with a hard probably not.

 

[TaterBot]

He went to the police and filed a report like we asked, he's going to bring it up with the counsellors now, what exactly do you think he can or should do?

https://womenscenter.virginia.edu/free-legal-clinic
“The legal process can be intimidating and confusing for anyone. If you find yourself overwhelmed or uncertain, the UVA Women’s Center Legal Clinic provides an opportunity to sort through the issues and develop a plan.”
– John Ralston, Law Office of E. Randall Ralston

 

[zap2theextreme]

He went to the police and filed a report like we asked, he's going to bring it up with the counsellors now, what exactly do you think he can or should do?

How frequently is he seeing a therapist? Once a month?

 

[Mason Verger]

https://womenscenter.virginia.edu/free-legal-clinic
“The legal process can be intimidating and confusing for anyone. If you find yourself overwhelmed or uncertain, the UVA Women’s Center Legal Clinic provides an opportunity to sort through the issues and develop a plan.”
– John Ralston, Law Office of E. Randall Ralston

I both like and hate that option.

Hate because that's a resource for battered wives and rape victims. Not an adult male in his 30s that chooses to believe Jesus kidnapped his cartoon wife.