Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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This is a bit of a weird point to make, so don't take it too seriously, but I think Ebara is giving Jerry far too much credit here, he's not as popular has he seems to think he is. He's only prevalent in brony circles and lolcow circles, and even then, not so much. Sure, his Legend of Korra video surpassed 1mil (good on him, by the way, that show was terrible), but one 1mil hit on an inherently non-political topic does not a political figure make.

If someone is gonna default to "people are slandering her because she speaks out against pedophiles!", that doesn't inherently make him "vocally political youtuber" either, that just makes him a dramawhore, since most of the accusations he's levied (with the exception of derpibooru) have been false and misdirected, particularly at the people who have said mean things about him for a long time, even preceding the Toonkritic event. He attacked and slandered them for a personal vendetta instead of putting the actual pedophiles in the community (Toon notwithstanding because everyone's already called him out) on blast. It's not even that hard to see who does lewd fanart of underage MLP characters, and people who support it. Derpibooru has a tag system that you can easily use to find these people. Jerry doesn't make use of it because all he cares about is labeling people who say mean things about him as "stalkers" and Nazis after goading them for responses.

Who's sending who child porn in a throwaway email, anyway? Are they talking about stockholm or that google drive pack?

Religious semantics are touchy, sure, but Jerry's pretty on the nose here. God in the old testament was a genocidal freak. I don't know what instance he's referencing with "millions of jews" being slaughtered because they were "apprehensive about going near giants".

Unless he's referring to Goliath, in which case, they were in a war with the Philistines (which explains the "slaughtering" of "millions of jews") and who the fuck wouldn't feel apprehensive about fighting a giant? It's like saying General A was apprehensive of sending his bow and arrow-armed soldiers to battle General B's forces, who had machine guns, holed up in a fortress.

He could have mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah or Noah's Ark (stories that are well known and he didn't have to be purposely vague about) and his argument could have had the same effect. Hell, go a step further and bring up the problem of evil, maybe then I'll take his religious arguments seriously beyond "yeah, sure, he's right for once"

Though, telling someone of a religious group that their main religious figure is actually a genocidal freak (in this case, the Jews about God) is still technically kinda anti-semitism. Just, not Hitler anti-semitism (since the concept isn't exclusive to and didn't originate with him, though Jerry and his fans might believe it is), but anti-semitism no less. I'm not gonna take it and run with it and call Jerry out for being anti-semitic, because loads of people criticize religion and throwing labels at them just for doing so is fucking stupid, so whatever.
 
I don't know what instance he's referencing with "millions of jews" being slaughtered because they were "apprehensive about going near giants".

He's talking about when the Jews were reaching the promised land. They freaked out about the inhabitants so God had them wander in the wilderness for 40 years. Because people dying of natural causes is genocide now apparently?

I mean let's translate that story to modern speak:
G: yo here's what i promised.
Js: whoa that looks hard. We don't want to.
G: but i got your back!
Js: don't wanna!
G: fine. If you don't want to, then you can go stand in the safe space corner over there until you die and I'll give this place to your children who maybe won't be such pussies!
 
He's talking about when the Jews were reaching the promised land. They freaked out about the inhabitants so God had them wander in the wilderness for 40 years. Because people dying of natural causes is genocide now apparently?

I mean let's translate that story to modern speak:
G: yo here's what i promised.
Js: whoa that looks hard. We don't want to.
G: but i got your back!
Js: don't wanna!
G: fine. If you don't want to, then you can go stand in the safe space corner over there until you die and I'll give this place to your children who maybe won't be such pussies!
Oh, that. I thought the reason they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years was because they became heretics and whatnot who turned on God. I never knew giants were involved.

I can see why he'd say that that's "slaughtering" them (though I wouldn't be as grotesque about it), since God himself is the reason they wandered aimlessly through the forest, that could mean that God "slaughtered" them.

Are you sure it's that, though? Jerry mentions a desert, and this story involves the wilderness and a forest. Is it that story or is Jerry just stupid?

This brings me back to my point; why not just use Sodom and Gomorrah, or Noah's Ark? Easy stories that just about everyone knows of that can convey that point in the same way, if not better.
 
Oh, that. I thought the reason they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years was because they became heretics and whatnot who turned on God. I never knew giants were involved.

I can see why he'd say that that's "slaughtering" them (though I wouldn't be as grotesque about it), since God himself is the reason they wandered aimlessly through the forest, that could mean that God "slaughtered" them.

Are you sure it's that, though? Jerry mentions a desert, and this story involves the wilderness and a forest. Is it that story or is Jerry just stupid?

This brings me back to my point; why not just use Sodom and Gomorrah, or Noah's Ark? Easy stories that just about everyone knows of that can convey that point in the same way, if not better.
Hah! That's uh... that's not exactly the wilderness they were wandering in.
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The story is "joshua and the spies" if you're looking for it. EDIT:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Spies

Jerry is still an idiot.
 
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Ah, bleh. It's been years since I last read the story, I guess I defaulted to "forest" when the word "wilderness" came up.

At least I admitted when I was wrong.
;)
And that's what makes you a :winner:

It is interesting to compare what different cultures assume about words they might have in common. I mean where you're from it probably makes sense for wilderness = forest. ;) in the middle east... not as many woodlands there (especially considering old roman tax codes).
 
The way that Lily essentially insulted Judaism and went out of her way to be disrespectful probably puts her pretty close to being an anti-semite. There's criticizing key aspects of a religion, and then there's "I DIDN'T ASK YOUR GOD FOR PERMISSION" and "GOD IS A FASCIST".

I'm not sure that he's actually being an anti-Semite here, as such. Ol' Jerry has an established history of being very euphoric, and is even stupider than the average euphoric, at that. The overlap between Christianity and Judaism means that he's sprayed his particular brand of ignorance all over a target that could be taken to be Jewish this time.

I'm not defending him, mind, I just don't think he specifically hates Jews so much as he hates anything even remotely related to Christianity. This could feasibly blow up in his face as so many other things have, though; most people who would get angry about it wouldn't be familiar enough with him to make the distinction... and they probably wouldn't care even if they were. Which suits me just fine.

Unrelated, but:
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Looks like Lily is now also disrespecting the Jews.

Anyone else notice that this person seems to be assuming that YHVH is a human? Brilliant intellects Jerry's attracting to himself, here.
 
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God is a fascist
I am smarter than god
I don't ask god what he'll give permission for
Hold on Hold on I'm gonna make me some OC real quick.

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Not double posting but gonna post a quick screencap
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I'll admit all the justification for violence against people labeled as nazi's/conservatives/republicans/The Right™ all sort of start to bleed together into a blob of almost identical "we tried talking to them already and this is the only language they understand." But I digress, this post reads pretty heavily like a post Lily made months back. I don't have an archive link but it basically read the same way, though I don't recall whether the post was about justifying violence against Nazi's or Republican (though we all know Peet/Orchard considers them functionally identical.)

but yeah just felt like putting this forward.
 
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I can admit that I understand the sentiment that Nazis need to be dealt with through violence. That’s how the likes of Richard Spencer got publicly humiliated and ridiculed. And memed. And some people like Millenial Woes should be put in their place like the LARPing lunatics they are. Adding to the fact that unironically using Logic™️ and Reason™️ in an argument when it’s become a meme is just asking to lose. Attacking them would be a scare tactic to prevent them from wanting to spread their views.

I don’t really think that wanting to harm Nazis is the inherent core problem with his line of thinking, his problem is who he considers Nazis (or even just Alt-Right), which, at this point, is just about everyone he hates. And he’s using this and the backlash he gets from most anything he does to say “you guys don’t like me because I oppose Nazis and want to keep children safe!”

He’s defending defamation, hypocrisy, pedophilia, abuse, and his hugbox mentality (he never invites criticism of his critiques) with his opposition to Nazis and brony pedos. Though just about everyone who isn’t in those groups oppose them.
 
I can admit that I understand the sentiment that Nazis need to be dealt with through violence. That’s how the likes of Richard Spencer got publicly humiliated and ridiculed. And memed. And some people like Millenial Woes should be put in their place like the LARPing lunatics they are. Adding to the fact that unironically using Logic™️ and Reason™️ in an argument when it’s become a meme is just asking to lose. Attacking them would be a scare tactic to prevent them from wanting to spread their views.
The trouble with using violence against Nazis and by extension, the Alt-Right is that the core of their ideology is a massive martyr complex, something that's been a thing when Hitler was first campaigning in Weimar Germany. Hitler's rhetoric during his campaigning obviously wasn't "gas the Jews", it was "fucking Communists and Socialists want us fucking dead because we give a shit about Germany!" So when the original Antifaschistische Aktion started attacking Nazi party members, it was not only a sign to the Nazis that they were right, but also a sign to the people (who had been harassed by communists and socialists) that the Nazis were right. Same thing goes on with the Alt-Right.

Their white-genocide rhetoric, alongside their belief that the right is now persecuted, was proven "right" constantly by Antifa, and as much as a lot of people don't wanna hear it, it was the likes of Sargon and others debating the Alt-Right and making them look utterly fucking pathetic for being race purists insecure about their whiteness that did more damage to the Alt-Right than anything Antifa or any violent counter protester ever did. Antifa and violent protesters proved the Alt-Right's point that the right wing was oppressed, so when that plot was lost by people debating them and showing that they're pathetic, childish idiots who should ONLY be a meme, that's when Richard Spencer's legitimacy was destroyed. That's why he can't have much of an audience. Even far left publications like Salon figured out this was the case and even tried to discourage counter protesters from attending Unite the Right, with a quote from a SPLC member, Heidi Beitrich explaining on the subject of simply ignoring the Alt Right on the street, "I think you’re starving them of the oxygen that they live off," with the pretense that the Alt Right NEEDS confrontation to make their narrative true.

Sorry if that were off-topic, though one could argue that could also be a refutation to Lily's thought process as well.

I don’t really think that wanting to harm Nazis is the inherent core problem with his line of thinking, his problem is who he considers Nazis (or even just Alt-Right), which, at this point, is just about everyone he hates. And he’s using this and the backlash he gets from most anything he does to say “you guys don’t like me because I oppose Nazis and want to keep children safe!”
To be fair, the Alt Right are essentially Neo Nazis. However, conflating literally everyone who disagrees with her and all conservatives as the Alt Right/Neo Nazis (like she did to Joshscorcher) is indeed the biggest problem, alongside her violent rhetoric. It's not just a problem because lumping everyone with awful people is wrong, it's also a problem because at her core, Lily is a fascist. We know she's a fascist, she has made comments in the past that suggested a totalitarian rule over the internet/government, her vocally preferred solution to anyone who stands in her way is to beat the ever loving shit out of them (and has actually advocated that people do this to bullies, parents or anyone else, really if they give lip) and her idealized OC is a genocidal fascist that murders anyone standing in his way.

This also leads to Ebara, believe it or not. Brittany/Thoughtbubble is quite convinced that Ebara is indeed a sockpuppet, despite all of the weirdness that we've noticed, and gives a pretty interesting post on the subject, comparing Ebara to Tara Callie and how the two were actually designed to normalize abuse. Tara Callie sexual abuse, Ebara manipulation.

https://thoughtbubblepony.tumblr.com/post/176331546700/lilys-next-level-manipulation-featuring

There's not really anything else to mention with the post, it's pretty darn good.
 
Ughhh Jerry

You make and support good points here and there but you are never fucking consistent

Although to be fair, within the last two weeks or so, he’s changed from an overly confrontational provocateur to a reclusive little bitch who needs an intermediary to manage his online presence (aka: his entire life) for him. So he’s changed, just not for the better.

Similarly, instead of actually showing that he’s sorry about taking his anger out on Patchwork in that one post, he instead turns on Patchwork and puts them on a blocklist. Again, he’s changed, just not for the better.
 
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https://archive.is/K8wso

Lily Peet everyone, showing off her immense political knowledge

Now I'm not american so I dunno if this is true, but from what I've been told, third parties don't work in the States because the American party system is incredibly stacked against them. They literally have no chance to become a viable party because they'd need a ludicrous amount of votes, that they can't get because no one believes they have a chance, because the system is so stacked against them.

Which is strange to me, because multiple-party systems work just fine all over Europe.

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Also I just noticed that the little bit at the bottom of the post didn't get copied properly. Need to keep that in mind the next time I post a really long archived post.
 
from what I've been told, third parties don't work in the States because the American party system is incredibly stacked against them
Correct. No one takes 3rd parties seriously, because no one takes 3rd parties seriously. They get no news coverage, they rarely get commercials, and now thanks to the 2016 elections you got throngs of assholes on either side of the american political binary (I've primarily noticed it from the left though) trying to shame you if you decide to vote 3rd party.

I got as far as "They're championed by 'both sides are bad' dipshits" before realising the screenshot wasn't even worth reading the whole way through. at risk of sounding "blog post-y" It speaks volumes to Orchard/Peet and people like them that they can tote the "it's irresponsible to vote third party" logic and the "All Conservatives are racists/fascists" logic. It literally boils down to "I reserve right to treat you poorly should you not do what I want" Which is Peet to a fucking T
 
Correct. No one takes 3rd parties seriously, because no one takes 3rd parties seriously. They get no news coverage, they rarely get commercials, and now thanks to the 2016 elections you got throngs of assholes on either side of the american political binary (I've primarily noticed it from the left though) trying to shame you if you decide to vote 3rd party.

I got as far as "They're championed by 'both sides are bad' dipshits" before realising the screenshot wasn't even worth reading the whole way through. at risk of sounding "blog post-y" It speaks volumes to Orchard/Peet and people like them that they can tote the "it's irresponsible to vote third party" logic and the "All Conservatives are racists/fascists" logic. It literally boils down to "I reserve right to treat you poorly should you not do what I want" Which is Peet to a fucking T

Not to mention just the difference in sheer size and SCALE. America is SO much bigger in population and land area than any single European country. You could get third parties going in local state elections (and you'll see that once in awhile) but it's just basic math and logic that when the crowd gets large enough, it will eventually bifurcate into two sides rather than 3+.
 
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