Bad webcomics

Admittedly, I don't know anything about the unicorn comic. It seems like on the surface, good on Dana for getting a comic syndicated at last and backing off the soapbox, but I have a terrible feeling there's veiled kinks and maybe pedoshit in there? Because this dA gallery chock full of ponies and "little girl Dana" is kind of creepy.

Its probably crammed full references to DCS' disturbing fetishes, but being syndicated means your comics get looked at by people who make sure you aren't teaching kids about fursuit sex before they go out, so they would be kept low-key enough a normie wouldn't notice them.

Sometimes censors ruin things, other times they save creators from themselves and audience from the creator's Id (see: Ren and Stimpy)
 
Admittedly, I don't know anything about the unicorn comic. It seems like on the surface, good on Dana for getting a comic syndicated at last and backing off the soapbox, but I have a terrible feeling there's veiled kinks and maybe pedoshit in there? Because this dA gallery chock full of ponies and "little girl Dana" is kind of creepy.
Some of Heavenly Nostrils pages got posted in one of the old bad webcomic threads on Something Awful. Lots of pages about the unicorn being shaved being by the main character, and an entire arc about a 10 year old girl who's a bully head being shaved. Lol good luck finding this as these threads are archived (gotta pay an extra 10 dollars) and Something Awful's search engine at times just doesn't work. I don't know if these have been scrubbed from the online archives of the comic as I couldn't find them.

It's totally pedoshit.
 
Some of Heavenly Nostrils pages got posted in one of the old bad webcomic threads on Something Awful. Lots of pages about the unicorn being shaved being by the main character, and an entire arc about a 10 year old girl who's a bully head being shaved. Lol good luck finding this as these threads are archived (gotta pay an extra 10 dollars) and Something Awful's search engine at times just doesn't work. I don't know if these have been scrubbed from the online archives of the comic as I couldn't find them.

It's totally pedoshit.

God I hope someone here has that, I’d give out my :winner:‘s to someone who posts it, like a crack whore gives out STD’s.
 
Man, I read the entirety of Red String. The art was kind of bad, and the story was okay, but it kept me interested. I think I remember how she said she was going on to write another web comic, but at the time nothing was posted. Glad I didn't learn about LNF

Given the sheer number of adulting-is-hard/muh-anxiety comics, does anyone else get the feeling that there's a whole fucking generation totally dependent on anxiety meds and bipolar meds and all the rest of it? Sure, they really do help some people, but there's so many taking that shit it's like a real world version of Soma. Twenty-something? Millennial? Anxiety? Stress? "Just give 'em some meds! MEDS MEDS MEDS!" Meanwhile, my dad's generation would've just said, "Stop being a little pussy Carl, that's just life. Deal with it!"

There's an article out there explaining why that generation is so anxious and depressed. It has to do with helicopter parenting and/or focusing hard on extracurricular activities. These people grew up thinking they had to be perfect at everything or they think small, inconvenient things are just the worst.
 
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Given the sheer number of adulting-is-hard/muh-anxiety comics, does anyone else get the feeling that there's a whole fucking generation totally dependent on anxiety meds and bipolar meds and all the rest of it? Sure, they really do help some people, but there's so many taking that shit it's like a real world version of Soma. Twenty-something? Millennial? Anxiety? Stress? "Just give 'em some meds! MEDS MEDS MEDS!" Meanwhile, my dad's generation would've just said, "Stop being a little pussy Carl, that's just life. Deal with it!"

At this point I wonder if thats just some kind of "trend" pretending to be social awkward and struggling coping with adult life.
Because it makes you look quirky and special.

most of those people dont claim to have actual anxiety or bipolar or take meds for it, its just a fun lil trend for em

First world problem comics became a thing after that "Alot" monster comic hit it big. These comics boil down to "I'm sad cuz life is hard and I'm depressed" while having a sustainable income and means to help themselves.

Try dealing with a mountain of debt from art school and having no sustainable income, while starving to pay for art supplies. They won't because they'll never allow themselves to be in a challenging situation.

Little of Column A, little of Column B? While there's definitely a lot of "adulting is hard" comic makers out there who are clearly playing up the incompetence and problems for the sale of clicks, but the main reason those artists do that is because there's built-in audience for that genre who usually confirm to every "lazy millennial" stereotype to a T and love this sort of shit because it's easier to share a shitty comic with the caption "omg same/mood/me" than it is to fix your problems.

Part of it is the ready availability of drugs. Or I guess I should say different drugs, before you'd just drink. Drugs are cheap, throw some zoloft at it, problem solved. So no one ever gains the mental fortitude to not just down some anti-anxiety meds when they feel a little ennui. This isn't saying there are people who legit need them, and I think rather than try to sort out who's got legit sadbrains and who just needs to sack up and deal with it, its safer from a liability stand point to just hook up both camps.

Another part is lack of meaningful personal connections. We know and talk to more people, but we're "closer" with few people than ever before.

Another part is how safe modern life is. There's no reason to take any risks.

Mostly though it really boils down to:





I remember seeing a picture of Gina Biggs and being not at all surprised she was the artist of quasi manga.

No matter how bad it is, I just can't bring myself to give a shit about LNF. And being that it isn't some wildly discussed tumblr darling despite trying to hit every square on a tumblr bingo card, it seems I'm not the only one.

Man, I read the entirety of Red String. The art was kind of bad, and the story was okay, but it kept me interested. I think I remember how she said she was going on to write another web comic, but at the time nothing was posted. Glad I didn't learn about LNF



There's an article out there explaining why that generation is so anxious and depressed. It has to do with helicopter parenting and/or focusing hard on extracurricular activities. These people grew up thinking they had to be perfect at everything or they think small, inconvenient things are just the worst.
The internet makes this stuff more visible than it was in the past, plus psychologists are better at diagnosing things like autism
 
I don't even know if this comic is good, but everytime I see a thing like this, I start to dislike the comic already. These stories about how hard life is, are stereotyped and redundant.
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Dana always had a *massive* chip on her shoulder about the fact she spent absolute years working on Ozy and Millie but Newspaper syndicates always rejected it. It's no longer on the archived comic site - but there used to be a whole "early history" section documenting the early strips which came before she really started the series proper and her attempts to sell it to papers who would often ask for more sunday strips or better quality. Early O&M hasn't the best inking quality, it got better over time.

Ozy and Millie could be quite smart sometimes, but mostly it was riding the coattails of Mr Waterson's work a bit too much without being quite as charming. I loved the characters, but Dana always let the idea that, one day, she might get O&M syndicated pull her back from doing any significant character development.

At the time she had a dedicated fan-forum called "Define Cynical" which consisted of fans following the comics. She used to endorse it, but the fans found she become quite hostile during her transition and O&M suffered as she went back to college to learn art. Which also led to her dropping traditional inking for digital drawing and new strips starting to look "off" from how she used to draw it. It basically got to a point where the fans themselves became tired and fed up with very half-hearted arcs when Dana was bothered to draw O&M. She eventually announced O&M would be ending and would be wrapping up some plots before moving on. This was also around the time she started working on Raine Dog V1.

The final weeks of the comic consisted of rushed character development, with Llewellyn Dragon and Millie's Mother suddenly going steady and getting married. This made Ozy and Millie step-brother and sister, which rather messed with fans hopes they would be a couple when older someday. Also a saga where the stereotypical "mean girl" character suddenly became goth.

The fans had mixed feelings about Raine Dog to start, but general thought was that it looked sloppy and it took forever for the story to really start....then it did start, with the infamous "talking dog snogs her young boy master" page. While the fan forum had been bit divided on the quality of O&M, there was collective fire over that and Raine Dog's very pretentious "I'm hipster liberal" tone (the comic literally starts with her self-insert in the future getting an overpriced bistro chain coffee while lecturing the audience)

Needless to say, she later called her own fan-forums toxic and it generally just became a bunch of veteran posters hanging out together and re-reading O&M with a critical eye and wondering where it all went south.

Dana eventually got her break by entering an early version of Heavenly Nostrils / Phoebe and her Unicorn simply known as "Girl" when submitted to a syndicate contest. She won and the comic took an age to morph into what it is now, but at it's core it's generally Ozy and Millie with the character cast chopped down. I think she's since ended up working with Toonami a bit alongside her comics. Good for her I suppose, but it's always been a shame she just dropped O&M for slightly blander offerings.
Man reading all of this is really a trip back. I read O&M back when Dana was David and I never learned otherwise until now.

Somehow I never picked up on the shaving thing but I stopped reading sometime in the late 2000s and never poked into the artist's history at all, but lo and behold I go to the O&M website and some of the last content proper involves Millie shaving Ozzy for...some reason. :roll:
 
I don't even know if this comic is good, but everytime I see a thing like this, I start to dislike the comic already. These stories about how hard life is, are stereotyped and redundant.
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This is on par with stuff you would see on a Facebook mom's wall in terms of sheer forced sentimentality.
 
Counter-point, as he trooned further and further out, DCS' ability to keep his politics out of his work would have failed and we'd have ended up with Troon Screeching: The comic. You can't tell me you were looking forward to inevitable arc with the thinly veiled sex change reference. It was bad enough when he did his shaving fetish shit.

O&M was p. much Calvin & Hobbes methadone, and like what it was trying to emulate, its best that it died before it got completely ruined.

Thanks for the informative Webcomics history post.

O&M did have political based arcs later on. But surprisingly balanced or usually ended with a fairly neutral view on the issue by the characters.

That and if you read the old strips now - you notice some things more pronounced. Like how Avery Raccoon's entire character is just that he's really susceptible to advertising and modern trends. Stephan the Aardvark is a very stereotyped nerd ect.

The old strips are re-running on her syndicates site. A 2007 arc just ran while I was looking stuff up where Ozy and Millie swap gender roles for the day.

Ozy runs into the popular girls and discovers that their aggression is more focused on social destruction and passive-aggressive behaviour when they tease him about his hair.

Millie learns that the big beefcake bully in school has less objections to beating her up when she's a boy.
 
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LIGHTNING ROUND

  • "She is a smart princess who like to invent thing and his father worry about that. Fortunately, princess invent gay marriage so princess not have to smash patriarchy. Princess so smart!"
  • Rings true. I've been given to understand that lesbians are more likely than men to be attracted to arrogant, condescending slatterns who think they're special because they can change the settings on their iPhones...
  • Missing middle panel: "Marriages arranged for political alliances were frequently called off because the bridegroom discovered that his bride was smarter than his horse. Screw ending wars; screw prosperity; men were shallow and stupid and won't ask me out--I mean, ask the princess out!"
  • Missing end panel: "And that princess? Albert Einstein."
  • This is the rejected storyboard for Frozen, by the way.
 
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"Despite this, his father worry a lot"

And then the royal lineage ended in a single generation, throwing the kingdom into chaos as anarchy reigns and many a warrior rose to claim the new throne.

Aw yeah, I'd read that webcomic.

Beat me to this you fucker.
 
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