Trainwreck Pamela Swain / DocHoliday1977 / MsPhoenix1969 / Observer1977 / danishlace2003 / Writer_thriller - Victim of grand #MeToo conspiracy, litigious wannabe starfucker, off her meds and online

[DocHoliday1977]

Lol I don't think you need a legal kiwi to tell you she has no case. Pam, care to let us know if you filed in state or federal court?

Nope.

Keep rummaging through Harvey's extra small crapped briefs and snickers bar wrappers. You'll find the suit.....hopefully.

Remember, I don't have a case. Why are you so worried?

 

[void]

I'm not taking any drugs or meds for you to control me. No.

Go away.

How could anyone here possibly control you if you picked whatever therapist or psychiatrist you wanted? A psychologist is the only one who can objectively evaluate you. No one’s telling you where to go or even what to do, they’re just suggesting that you get an outside opinion. Someone as intelligent as yourself has to know it’s not possibly to objectively evaluate yourself. I’m sure you know plenty of people who have tried and benefitted from therapy; it’s extremely common.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

How could anyone here possibly control you if you picked whatever therapist or psychiatrist you wanted? A psychologist is the only one who can objectively evaluate you. No one’s telling you where to go or even what to do, they’re just suggesting that you get an outside opinion. Someone as intelligent as yourself has to know it’s not possibly to objectively evaluate yourself. I’m sure you know plenty of people who have tried and benefitted from therapy; it’s extremely common.

I used to work with psychologists and family therapists. They all agree harvey is a rapist and a stalker.

Oh yes - "a dangerous sociopathic malignant narcissist."

 

[void]

I used to work with psychologists and family therapists. They all agree harvey is a rapist and a stalker.

Ah. You’ve shown them the evidence?
I think working with them is not the same as being a patient. There’s also a conflict of interest there.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Ah. You’ve shown them the evidence?
I think working with them is not the same as being a patient. There’s also a conflict of interest there.

Free counseling and advice? Are you insane? Just because I'm not YOUR client, doesn't mean I don't seek professional counseling or advice before I do something.

 

[void]

Free counseling and advice? Are you insane?

I’m confused. No, you’d presumably pay for their services, like as a patient.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I’m confused. No, you’d presumably pay for their services, like as a patient.

Not if I met with a friend who did an evaluation for me and concluded I am being sexually harassed by arrogant narcissists.


Not by someone you can call and put words in their mouth by lying about me to make up a phony diagnosis to slap me on drugs so you can take me and do God knows what to me.

Let's not forget this magical moment.

 

[void]

Not if I met with a friend who did an evaluation for me and concluded I am being sexually harassed by arrogant narcissists.

Ok, that’s what I was asking. That’s why I said there’s a conflict of interest.
I’m not saying you aren’t being harassed. I can’t imagine being in your situation and I’m sure it sucks. You have my sympathy, if that means anything to you.
Have you ever seen a psychologist that isn’t a friend?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Ok, that’s what I was asking. That’s why I said there’s a conflict of interest.
I’m not saying you aren’t being harassed. I can’t imagine being in your situation and I’m sure it sucks. You have my sympathy, if that means anything to you.
Have you ever seen a psychologist that isn’t a friend?

They aren't "friends" per sey. They are people I know and are familiar with. This conversation is too invasive and I must quit responding.

Ok, that’s what I was asking. That’s why I said there’s a conflict of interest.
I’m not saying you aren’t being harassed. I can’t imagine being in your situation and I’m sure it sucks. You have my sympathy, if that means anything to you.
Have you ever seen a psychologist that isn’t a friend?

I read this again. "you have my sympathy"

I have a question, do you want to live in a world where a man like Harvey can harass, stalk, and even kidnap a person and abuse them?
Is that your view of a world you are trying to protect by making me sound like "I'm off my rocker" cause I don't want to be raped, stalked and molested?

I don't think you understand my situation. And I dont think you want to. I think you want to help your pal, Harvey. And that's a conflict of interest as well.

So basically, Harvey has hired a brilliant team of lawyers to get him off of his crimes and a brilliant team of professional psychologists to gaslight his accusers and help him get laid with as many women they can help him force against their will.

America is great, isn't it? Perverts

 

[void]

I read this again. "you have my sympathy"

I have a question, do you want to live in a world where a man like Harvey can harass, stalk, and even kidnap a person and abuse them?
Is that your view of a world you are trying to protect by making me sound like "I'm off my rocker" cause I don't want to be raped, stalked and molested?

I don't think you understand my situation. And I dont think you want to. I think you want to help your pal, Harvey. And that's a conflict of interest as well.

I’m not Harvey or related to Harvey. Have I done or said something to hurt or bother you?
Your situation with the harassment sounds like absolute hell. That’s why I think you need a therapist, not because you’re crazy. I do have sympathy, how could I not? I think you deserve a break from trying to manage it all yourself. No one can handle that on their own. It’s impossible, no matter how strong you are.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I’m not Harvey or related to Harvey. Have I done or said something to hurt or bother you?
Your situation with the harassment sounds like absolute hell. That’s why I think you need a therapist, not because you’re crazy. I do have sympathy, how could I not? I think you deserve a break from trying to manage it all yourself. No one can handle that on their own. It’s impossible, no matter how strong you are.

He's still contacting me and sending me pics of his body. Yes it is hell. He thinks it's funny and that he's going to get away with his current laundry list of crimes in New York, and come right back down here to GA and force me to do whatever.
You have no idea the sexually charged media he's sent me for 4 years. I have to test people I talk to all the time to make sure its not him.
Its not my idea of fun.

 

[Begemot]

They aren't "friends" per sey. They are people I know and are familiar with. This conversation is too invasive and I must quit responding.



I read this again. "you have my sympathy"

I have a question, do you want to live in a world where a man like Harvey can harass, stalk, and even kidnap a person and abuse them?
Is that your view of a world you are trying to protect by making me sound like "I'm off my rocker" cause I don't want to be raped, stalked and molested?

I don't think you understand my situation. And I dont think you want to. I think you want to help your pal, Harvey. And that's a conflict of interest as well.

So basically, Harvey has hired a brilliant team of lawyers to get him off of his crimes and a brilliant team of professional psychologists to gaslight his accusers and help him get laid with as many women they can help him force against their will.

America is great, isn't it? Perverts

How is Harvey @void's pal? Do you have evidence of this?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

How is Harvey @void's pal? Do you have evidence of this?

He's not. There was some confusion.

 

[Nido]

Good luck finding the Federal Court and the case number!

Sorry, my bad I need to read closer she already told us. Assuming everything she's said about this new suit is true (a big ask, I know), she's filed in federal court so a search of the NY state courts won't bring it up. If you wanna search the federal system you have to use PACER, which takes like a week to sign up for. You also have to pay to download things on PACER so if Pam's complaint is out there you'd have to pay to read it.

Idk I like reading ridiculous filings as much as the next person but PACER is a pain and don't wanna pay for this one so I'll pass.

Also, since Pam's arguing that all these claims (state and federal) arise from the same Harvey stalking shenanigans, she wouldn't have to file different suits in different courts. Instead, she can just file everything in one court and have that one court toss her suit. Much more efficient that way.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Sorry, my bad I need to read closer she already told us. Assuming everything she's said about this new suit is true (a big ask, I know), she's filed in federal court so a search of the NY state courts won't bring it up. If you wanna search the federal system you have to use PACER, which takes like a week to sign up for. You also have to pay to download things on PACER so if Pam's complaint is out there you'd have to pay to read it.

Idk I like reading ridiculous filings as much as the next person but PACER is a pain and don't wanna pay for this one so I'll pass.

Also, since Pam's arguing that all these claims (state and federal) arise from the same Harvey stalking shenanigans, she wouldn't have to file different suits in different courts. Instead, she can just file everything in one court and have that one court toss her suit. Much more efficient that way.

You sound like you have a bead on it. Good luck to you.

 

[void]

He's still contacting me and sending me pics of his body. Yes it is hell. He thinks it's funny and that he's going to get away with his current laundry list of crimes in New York, and come right back down here to GA and force me to do whatever.
You have no idea the sexually charged media he's sent me for 4 years. I have to test people I talk to all the time to make sure its not him.
Its not my idea of fun.

I see. It sounds really rough, and it’s amazing that you’ve been pulling through. It worries me that you’re trying to handle this on your own. You’ve been doing that and nothing has changed. I think we all need someone to remind us that we don’t have to go through it without help.
Have you changed your number, email, etc? Even if you like Michael, don’t you think it would be best to completely cut contact with these people?
Unfortunately, it’s possible the police are incompetent and won’t do anything. What if nothing changes? Will you live the rest of your life in fear? Will you wake up and go to sleep with this on your mind? Your feelings and thoughts might be the only thing you have control over in this situation. I know that’s sucky, but it means there is a solution. Granted, it requires a whole lot of dedication to therapy (or whatever else helps you achieve the goal), but it’s the only way to win. Harvey and these losers definitely don’t deserve your attention, and right now it looks like they’re getting a whole lot of it. That is a great injustice. As many here have said, you’re a really cool and interesting person.
Have you gotten any useful advice from people in your life so far?

 

[Nido]

You sound like you have a bead on it. Good luck to you.

Thanks Pam. Even if you're not a big fan of the people here, I hope you take some of @void 's advice and are able to move past this and heal. You deserve a happier life; I really hope you find it someday soon.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I see. It sounds really rough, and it’s amazing that you’ve been pulling through. It worries me that you’re trying to handle this on your own. You’ve been doing that and nothing has changed. I think we all need someone to remind us that we don’t have to go through it without help.
Have you changed your number, email, etc? Even if you like Michael, don’t you think it would be best to completely cut contact with these people?
Unfortunately, it’s possibile the police are incompetent and won’t do anything. What if nothing changes? Will you live the rest of your life in fear? Will you wake up and go to sleep with this on your mind? Your feelings and thoughts might be the only thing you have control over in this situation. I know that’s sucky, but it means there is a solution. Granted, it requires a whole lot of dedication to therapy (or whatever else helps you achieve the goal), but it’s the only way to win. Harvey and these losers definitely don’t deserve your attention, and right now it looks like they’re getting a whole lot of it. That is a great injustice. As many here have said, you’re a really cool and interesting person.
Have you gotten any useful advice from people in your life so far?

Harvey's tried to manipulate my family. My mom is a recent cancer survivor and just now getting back to normal, my dad died of cancer back in 2016. So through all that, I've had to deal with psycho. He's had people come to my house.
Yes, I do want to cut all these people off. Immensely. Friendship with any if them is impossible. But they made this thread, not me. I don't want to talk to them. They can't follow any facts and tell the truth about anything. They don't want to. I realized Alicias tween like drama behavior was for attention many months ago and I don't want to be any where near that even if it means giving up an online friendship with Michael. They start it back up all the time. Harvey and Alicia antagonize the situation.
I'm not afraid of them but they frustrate the hell out me.
Oh and the sheriffs deputies are helpful. The sheriff isn't. He won't help me get a restraining order on Harvey. The deputies told me to sue and stick to it. A Judge approved of my case and he knows about Harvey's manipulation.

I have these freaks diagnosing me with everything short of a an enlarged prostate cause they don't want me to stand up to Harvey.

Thanks Pam. Even if you're not a big fan of the people here, I hope you take some of @void 's advice and are able to move past this and heal. You deserve a happier life; I really hope you find it someday soon.

I find you vapid and insincere. Michael. Good bye.

Well you all have kept me up. Congratulations.

Bye.

 

[Um Oh Ah Yeah]

es, I do want to cut all these people off. Immensely. Friendship with any if them is impossible. But they made this thread, not me.

I'm not saying I want you to go, but from a purely logical standpoint, would the solution then not be to just... not post in the thread? I mean, multiple people have told you multiple times that we have nothing to do with any of your harassers, but since you refuse to believe that, the best solution would be to stop engaging with us. If you think that you might get information from us that is somehow useful to your case, then have someone else monitor the thread.

 

[LoverofPi]

Harvey was served. He didn't tell you? I told him.

I wonder if Harvey was using ya'll to make him look innocent?

You all threw the paperwork away in a feeding frenzy? Ruh roh

The Weinstein Company (Lantern) and Marchesa was served.

Georgina read the lawsuit.

Took a look at your Tracking info (BTW, it's unsecured, so posting the number here got everyone access) and there is a related item to your initial package was sent right back to you.

The tracking info she posted - https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=70153430000001698762

The tracking for the return to sender - https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=9590940233087196691485