Culture Content creators in financial disarray after Patreon declines payments

Content creators in financial disarray after Patreon declines payments

August 2nd, 2018 - 02:45pm
By Danielle Partis, Influencer Editor

Some creators on Patreon have been left in panic after finding that the platform has declined their payout for this month.

According to tweets from Patreon users, internal problems with the platform caused every single pledge to a creator to be declined. This chargeback also allegedly triggered credit fraud marks from banks.

Those using Patreon as a crowdfunding tool have also posted screenshots of their patrons' pledges being declined in bulk. This isn't ideal for creators relying on Patreon as a main source of income.

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Patreon is yet to comment on the issue. The last noise from the company was that it was resolving some connectivity issues.

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I think we will see a lot of cow chimping because of this. Ready your salt reservoirs.
 
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BScCollateral said:
Nothing wrong with busking, apart from the public nuisance aspect. Much more respectable than begging or collecting welfare.
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Much less respectable than actually having a job though.

Marvin said:
Panhandling no. Busking yes.

(Or, well, do you mean "respectable" in the sense that the quality of income is respectable? Or that the act itself is respectable? Busking gives you patchy income, but the act itself is respectable.)

And there's a difference between those things and Patreon, in that Patreon is a financial services company. (Or a "membership platform" or some shit.) They're supposed to get this right, in the same way that, say, ebay should get it right.

Like it's stupid to complain if you lose a bunch of patrons and can't pay your rent. That's part of being a starving artist. Likewise, if you're busking and it's a rainy day and the tourists aren't coming out, that's on you as well.

But it's a different situation when patreon's system fucks up. Or if you're a busker and got your day's take stolen from you on your way home.
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I suppose you could also say it's not respectable in the earnings department either, but the main thing I'm getting at is that it's not exactly something someone would be proud of if they had to admit it was their main source of income. I personally don't really give a shit, as far as actual busking goes everyone has a life story and since I don't know how or why someone would be doing it I wouldn't judge one way or the other. As far as Patreon goes I don't really mind either but these fucking idiots who make it their sole source of income, and then compound that idiotic idea with poor financial planning, well basically what everyone else said about it sums up how I feel about that.

Aladdin_Insane said:
I see streaming as busking.

I think the whole thing with patreon is that you could set goals and manage them through patreon.
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I figured it'd be the goals system that kept a lot of people on the platform, that and the visibility of how many patreons they have. Still though I'd think that something this big (for the ones who have no idea what the fuck a "budget" is apparently) would drive them off the platform in droves by now.
 
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Lysol said:
I suppose you could also say it's not respectable in the earnings department either, but the main thing I'm getting at is that it's not exactly something someone would be proud of if they had to admit it was their main source of income.
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No, I think taking risks for something you believe in is pretty respectable. I mean, the risk should ultimately go somewhere. Interested parties should regularly hear that you've upgraded to playing at bars on the weekends and better and better gigs.

But busking, if you can make the money, is a respectable place to start.
 
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Marvin said:
I don't think patreon is internet welfare. That really elevates welfare to something it's not.

Patreon is consensual and patrons are getting something for their money. If they don't like what they're getting, they have the option to stop paying.

As far as I'm concerned, patreon is a 100% legitimate way to make a living.

It's like any other part of the entertainment business, just cutting out the middleman.
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While I'll agree that it's a legitimate way to make a living, a lot of people use it as a source of free income. Vloggers and bloggers mostly. If you do commissions via Patreon, or make videos that require effort and editing then yeah it's very legitimate and well deserved. But people who use it to e-beg or just free money for little effort (basically how cows use it), then I see that as being less deserved, especially when they do fuck all for their donators.
 
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trueandhonestfan said:
While I'll agree that it's a legitimate way to make a living, a lot of people use it as a source of free income. Vloggers and bloggers mostly. If you do commissions via Patreon, or make videos that require effort and editing then yeah it's very legitimate and well deserved. But people who use it to e-beg or just free money for little effort (basically how cows use it), then I see that as being less deserved, especially when they do fuck all for their donators.
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It's on the donators, though.
 
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So it turns out that my card is actually being replaced. Evidently patreon charges my card pledge by pledge and bundles them all together at the end. I have about a dozen pledges. My bank saw a dozen transactions suddenly in the UK and shut down my card automatically. Unfortunately BofA won't reverse it.

What strikes me as strange is that there's no reason all patreon pledges have to be processed through the UK instead of regional clearinghouses. If you went pledge > clearinghouse > UK this situation likely wouldn't have happened.
 
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ADN_VIII said:
What strikes me as strange is that there's no reason all patreon pledges have to be processed through the UK instead of regional clearinghouses. If you went pledge > clearinghouse > UK this situation likely wouldn't have happened.
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The change is probably driven by money. The interchange fees charged by processors and clearing houses are substantial and if Patreon is looking to save money without affecting the public facing end (they got massive backlash when they tried to change that), then they need to make those savings on the back end.
 
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ZeCommissar said:
Oh no, so now people who take 5 years to work on a project that should only take 1 can't get free gibs while they are "working on it".

I do feel bad for those that actually do make good shit tho, and are using it like it's supposed to be used.
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I don't feel sorry for anyone using it as e-welfare. Too many lazy people who think Patreon support is all they need to live on forever.
 
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Cho Chan said:
Lot of talk on this thread, very little action. Have any cows actually taken a substantial hit from this?
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I'd be surprised, personally.

If I forget to tell my bank that I'm travelling, they send me a text asking if I really just bought potato chips in Omaha. I reply "Y" and that's it.

I wouldn't think this sort of problem would take more than a day or two to clear up.
 
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4Macie said:
Wonder if this fucked with Alison Rapp at all.
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I thought she DFE when she went dark. Patreon, twitter (it's up but not her), discord, etc. I personally doubt she's given up the weird life and she just has a super sekret discord where only the most beta of cucks who've given her the $$$ shekels have access to and she does skype shows for them.
 
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