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[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I miss old Chris...

This new pony shit is horrible. I hate pony shit

 

[Meat Pickle]

I would post this in the Sean Miller page but its locked, so I’m doing it here. This morning I encountered a shitty attack article on that diaperfur with the humiliation fetish created on the Cwcki.

Spoiler: The article in question

However, I decided to deal with the bots that were swarming the site first. Because of this, Miller posted a plea to delete that article, a firsthand encounter with the lolcow himself.

Spoiler: Sean in his autistic glory

By the time he posted his second message, the deed has already been done.

Spoiler: Proof because Sam doesn’t fucking sign his goddamn posts

Upon searching his new alias, Omutsupad and Dark World, that article is the same as the one found in /baphomet/ and 8chan. ED would be included too, but it’s deleted.

Spoiler: Bonus: A talk page exclusively populated with bots that was discovered in May

 

[TrippinKahlua]

It's probably @Nightstar.

Maybe it's Sebastian the Star Bear.

Nightstaaaaar ooooh ooooh ooooh ooh!
Show us who you are!

Starring Judy Tenuta

 

[MY 405]

Have we heard about the diagnosis on the van yet? Or had it just been consigned to the car boneyard lot in the front yard?

 

[Slap47]

This new pony shit is horrible. I hate pony shit

Old Chris would have jumped onto Ponies.
Child Chris would have jumped onto Ponies

It is one thing that would have happened no matter what.

 

[heathercho]

I don't know if this is a question, thought or something surrealist ;
Yesterday I bought this antique artwork piece.
It's a gorgeous re-worked mecury mirror framed piece, with a glass centre and a portion of an artwork from a mid 19th century Parisian artist who was a master calligrapher.

I was looking at it thinking how pretty it is and how well it matches my decor.
Then I realised something...

The calligraphy work is an ornate monogram of the initials CWC.

Was Barb right and the Weston's were truly high society? Or did I just pay a lot of money for a glorified CWC signature?

 

[Ravenor]

Was Barb right and the Weston's were truly high society? Or did I just pay a lot of money for a glorified CWC signature?

In no way shape or form was the Chandler or Weston clans associated with the Royal Family of England.

They where mostly lower class / working class, a big tell is Anne Boleyn people who want to claim a nebulous claim to the Royal Family try and always go that route because of some really iffy court intrigue fueled by the French and Spanish courts with tasset support from Rome. The fact of the matter is Anne had a single Child that survived to adult hood in the form of Elizabeth the 1st and the last in the line of accent of the House of Tudor and it ended there as she died Childless.

I mean here is the Anne Boleyn family tree -

The Royal Families of Europe are anal about Genealogy to a point that puts the Mormons to shame in particular the British Royal Family for various reasons (seriously with the last two royal marriages they deployed the Royal Collage of Arms and Burke's Peerage who are essentially a Private Crown asset and have been for a very long time to do as much authoritative research as they could) so this is just fanciful thinking on Barbs part.

 

[heathercho]

In no way shape or form was the Chandler or Weston clans associated with the Royal Family of England.

They where mostly lower class / working class, a big tell is "Anne Boleyn" people who want to claim a nebulous claim to the Royal Family try and always go that route because of some really iffy court intrigue fuelled by the French and Spanish courts that had tasset support from Rome. The fact of the matter is Anne had a single Child that survived to adult hood in the form of Elizabeth the 1st and the last in the line of accent of the House of Tudor and it ended there as she died Childless.

I mean here is the Anne Boleyn family tree -

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The Royal Families of Europe are anal about Genealogy to a point that puts the Mormons to shame in particular the British Royal Family for various reasons (seriously with the last two royal marriages they deployed the Royal Collage of Arms and Burke's Peerage who are essentially a Private Crown asset and have been for a very long time to do as much authoritative research as they could on the family trees of the families marring into the Royal Family) so this is just fanciful thinking on Barbs part.

I love that you put so much accuracy into a response to my shitpondering

The only thing Barb has in common with royalty is that she was turned on by the thought of sleeping with her own family.

 

[Ravenor]

I love that you put so much accuracy into a response to my shitpondering

No problem at all

 

[MY 405]

The Westons were a family from Kent. Sir Francis Weston was in no way Royalty, they were a peerage family elevated by Henry VII. Francis was a member of Henry VIII’s court. The closest he ever got to Anne Boleyn was being accused of fucking her along with Mark Smeaton, her music teacher, and her own brother — all of whom were falsely accused and beheaded the day before Anne was at the Tower of London (I took a pic of where Chris’s “famous” ancestors literally lost his head for fucking the Queen — which he more than likely never did, all because Anne refused to give Henry a divorce). Over 400 years of Westons — fucking shit up merely by existing.

 

[heathercho]

The Westons were a family from Kent. Sir Francis Weston was in no way Royalty, they were a peerage family elevated by Henry VII. Francis was a member of Henry VIII’s court. The closest he ever got to Anne Boleyn was being accused of fucking her along with Mark Smeaton, her music teacher, and her own brother — all of whom were falsely accused and beheaded the day before Anne was at the Tower of London (I took a pic of where Chris’s “famous” ancestors literally lost his head for fucking the Queen — which he more than likely never did, all because Anne refused to give Henry a divorce). Over 400 years of Westons — fucking shit up merely by existing.

I just find it disturbing that someone in Chris' family was even a Sir. Just think - 400 years of known Weston linage has boiled down to Barb, Chris and Cole. So much history ends in a ball of autism sobbing on the floor.

No problem at all

This all presents me with a new problem : I can't stop looking at the artwork, because all I see is CWC on it now.
With the mirror around it, it looks like a portal to CWCville.

 

[CWCissey]

I just find it disturbing that someone in Chris' family was even a Sir. Just think - 400 years of known Weston linage has boiled down to Barb, Chris and Cole. So much history ends in a ball of autism sobbing on the floor.

It happened to the Habsburgs too.

I don't know which is worse to be honest, I guess Charles II of Spain was at least still a King...

 

[Stephanie Bustcakes]

The Westons were a family from Kent. Sir Francis Weston was in no way Royalty, they were a peerage family elevated by Henry VII. Francis was a member of Henry VIII’s court. The closest he ever got to Anne Boleyn was being accused of fucking her along with Mark Smeaton, her music teacher, and her own brother — all of whom were falsely accused and beheaded the day before Anne was at the Tower of London (I took a pic of where Chris’s “famous” ancestors literally lost his head for fucking the Queen — which he more than likely never did, all because Anne refused to give Henry a divorce). Over 400 years of Westons — fucking shit up merely by existing.

This assumes it's the same Weston family and not a different family with the same name.

This all presents me with a new problem : I can't stop looking at the artwork, because all I see is CWC on it now.
With the mirror around it, it looks like a portal to CWCville.

Have you tried going through?

 

[Ravenor]

I just find it disturbing that someone in Chris' family was even a Sir. Just think - 400 years of known Weston linage has boiled down to Barb, Chris and Cole. So much history ends in a ball of autism sobbing on the floor.

It was a fairly common South East English name, it essentially meant West Town i.e. Settlement to the West. It's a Geographic name of the kind you find it everywhere there are two main arguments about why they occurred mostly it was likely a way of identifying someone who had moved to a town or village in local records i.e that is "Bob from that Town to the West" who didn't really have an identifiable single job or wasnt notable for the one they had at least on that side of his family, For a good example of this look at Chris's surname Chandler it would say that somewhere in Bob's family tree if you go back far enough you will find someone notable for being a Candle maker likely in a small village or with a connection to the Church for example and this was notable so it stuck as a surname (you find loads of names like this, Smith, Rimmer (person who put the iron rims on Cartwheels), Scriviner (Writer), Leadbetter (Person who worked with sheet lead, mostly in construction or ship making), Hodge (a kind of small holding farmer), Fletcher (someone who made arrows) etc.

From around the end of Rome till the Doomsday book when things really got codified again surnames where more of an added description of you added to your Forename as that is what you where called most of the time. If you look at the DDB you will see a lot of those names get written down and recorded for the first time and they slowly became official after that point in English history, some surnames did get created after that but not many and most where amalgams of pre-existing names or represented a new industry.

 

[heathercho]

It was a fairly common South East English name, it essentially meant West Town i.e. Settlement to the West. It's a Geographic name of the kind you find everywhere there are two main arguments about why they occurred mostly it was likely a way of identifying someone who had moved to a town or village in local records i.e that is "Bob from that Town to the West" who didn't really have an identifiable single job or wasnt notable for the one they had at least on that side of his family, For a good example of this look at Chris's surname Chandler it would say that somewhere in Bob's family tree if you go back far enough you will find someone notable for being a Candle maker likely in a small village or with a connection to the Church for example and this was notable so it stuck as a surname (you find loads of names like this, Smith, Rimmer (person who put the iron rims on Cartwheels), Scriviner (Writer), Leadbetter (Person who worked with sheet lead, mostly in construction or ship making), Hodge (a kind of small holding farmer), Fletcher (someone who made arrows) etc.

From around the end of Rome till the Doomsday book when things really got codified again surnames where more of an added description of you added to your Forename as that is what you where called most of the time. If you look at the DDB you will see a lot of those names get written down and recorded for the first time and they slowly became official after that point in English history, some surnames did get created after that but not many and most where amalgams of pre-existing names or represented a new industry.

I find this stuff interesting, my ancestors all changed their names, even the white ones. Japanese didn't get surnames until the 19th Century and mine just picked the same one as everyone else in town. The others picked a Japanese 19th century version of a troon wrestler name. Koreans are have clan names. Boring.

Chris is really lucky to have a history, but yeah, I see he was never related to anyone of any merit. I always think that trope is amusing though. Bob's native trope is also good too.

But since names were related to work... I shudder to think what Chris' would be... God, it'd involve Sonichu.

Have you tried going through?

I did. But I fear it'd take me into a Parisian Cwcville. I don't want to do that.

 

[Ravenor]

I find this stuff interesting, my ancestors all changed their names, even the white ones. Japanese didn't get surnames until the 19th Century and mine just picked the same one as everyone else in town. The others picked a Japanese 19th century version of a troon wrestler name. Koreans are have clan names. Boring.

Chris is really lucky to have a history, but yeah, I see he was never related to anyone of any merit. I always think that trope is amusing though. Bob's native trope is also good too.

It's an interesting cultural phenomenon that most people don't give anywhere near enough thought to, the UK has it in spades and it get's really complex at times but it is amazing cultural and historical record that we all have attached to us I mean even how something is spelled is really useful in working out where your family came from originally and some of the misspellings that have become regular spellings are interesting.

For example the Surname Lloyd or Loyd is a misunderstanding that originated with people who learned to read and not write around the time Printing was starting to become common the Ll part of the name was caused by a Quill Pen's tines spreading apart to make a upper case L or at least that's the prevailing theory with that name and it ties in nicely with a period of modernisation of the English Language around the time we dropped the letter "Thorn Þ" from our alphabet most commonly encountered as the "Ye" in Ye Olde because when it was encountered it was mistaken for other letters and was harder to cut into woodblocks and by the time moveable type came around it was killed off for good as other forms of spelling came into common use but is still spoken in a way as parts of regional accents in places that have elongated E's or soft H's in pronunciation.

But since names were related to work... I shudder to think what Chris' would be... God, it'd involve Sonichu.

Likely he wouldn't have had one or had to use Bob's, if Bob was notable enough locally, or he would have had to use the local name if he moved outside of Ruckersville.

 

[heathercho]

It's an interesting cultural phenomenon that most people don't give anywhere near enough thought to, the UK has it in spades and it get's really complex at times but it is amazing cultural and historical record that we all have attached to us I mean even how something is spelled is really useful in working out where your family came from originally and some of the misspellings that have become regular spellings are interesting.

For example the Surname Lloyd or Loyd is a misunderstanding that originated with people who learned to read and not write around the time Printing was starting to become common the Ll part of the name was caused by a Quill Pen's tines spreading apart to make a upper case L or at least that's the prevailing theory with that name and it ties in nicely with a period of modernisation of the English Language around the time we dropped the letter "Thorn Þ" from our alphabet most commonly encountered as the "Ye" in Ye Olde because when it was encountered it was mistaken for other letters and was harder to cut into woodblocks and by the time moveable type came around it was killed off for good as other forms of spelling came into common use but is still spoken in a way as parts of regional accents in places that have elongated E's or soft H's in pronunciation.



Likely he wouldn't have had one or had to use Bob's, if Bob was notable enough locally, or he would have had to use the local name if he moved outside of Ruckersville.

Wow, I always assumed the Ll's were due to Welshness. Sort of like Ss is used in Korean meaning when there's a double, it's a hard sound, not a soft one, the Ll would be a hard L and not a soft one. This is really awesome, damn this deserves a Deep Thoughts thread. It's wasted on Cwcville.

There was no Godbear back in domesday book times. Chris' best bet would have been Christian Bobson.

 

[Ravenor]

Wow, I always assumed the Ll's were due to Welshness. Sort of like Ss is used in Korean meaning when there's a double, it's a hard sound, not a soft one, the Ll would be a hard L and not a soft one.

Some of that happened but the Welsh langugae is odd, to say the least and when you see things like that it's an almost Anglicised spelling of the name using the British Alphabet, in the Ll case it's more of a ts sound in Welsh, here is a handy dandy guide on Welsh and the pronunciation of it.

There was no Godbear back in domesday book times. Chris' best bet would have been Christian Bobson.

On the first part your slightly wrong but it's a kinda common misconception, the DDB was commissioned by William the Conqueror and we where a mostly Christian nation again as the Norse tribes had mostly converted with little pockets of older religions dotted around and the local Christian traditions having elements of those older faiths in them (lots of that survives in Folk Lore and little village traditions today).

And I am glad you brought up the Son of patronim, in Chris's case it would have been a existing name - Robertson.

This is really awesome, damn this deserves a Deep Thoughts thread. It's wasted on Cwcville.

Yea it has spawned an interesting discussion hasn't it, if you want to start a thread I would be more than happy to engage.

 

[MY 405]

This assumes it's the same Weston family and not a different family with the same name.

It’s certainly the side of the Weston’s that had any connection to the Tudor Henrys and Sir Francis Weston was a member of Henry’s PVCC Inner Circle and often was in Bolyen’s company. He was one of Henry’s BFF’s until Henry threw him under the bus. There is a different branch of the Weston family (not directly related to Francis) in Canada who do well in oil shares, I think. But if Chris keeps claiming his relationship to Boleyn it’s Sir Francis Weston, who was “related” to her by innuendo of having “relations” with her. Which he confessed to and later recanted ... the Weston’s all seem to go to court the same way too. This was one of “Katherine’s” ploys in showing Chris “The Tudors” — all he seemed to get out of it was to start using Imperial spelling. Yeah, but who knows, they could have gotten the entire branch of the family wrong. Just saw “Weston” one day linked to Boleyn and said, “Ohhhh, that’s OUR family!” when they’re actually the Westons from Newcastle and no relation.

 

[Lipitor]

It’s certainly the side of the Weston’s that had any connection to the Tudor Henrys and Sir Francis Weston was a member of Henry’s PVCC Inner Circle and often was in Bolyen’s company. He was one of Henry’s BFF’s until Henry threw him under the bus. There is a different branch of the Weston family (not directly related to Francis) in Canada who do well in oil shares, I think. But if Chris keeps claiming his relationship to Boleyn it’s Sir Francis Weston, who was “related” to her by innuendo of having “relations” with her. Which he confessed to and later recanted ... the Weston’s all seem to go to court the same way too. This was one of “Katherine’s” ploys in showing Chris “The Tudors” — all he seemed to get out of it was to start using Imperial spelling. Yeah, but who knows, they could have gotten the entire branch of the family wrong. Just saw “Weston” one day linked to Boleyn and said, “Ohhhh, that’s OUR family!” when they’re actually the Westons from Newcastle and no relation.

So as the youngest child of all his parents' kids and a product of a second marriage and an American citizen that lines him up pretty close to be the next queen of England right?

P.S. lol wouldn't it be funny if the UK had to put CWC on their money.