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Saw this via lipjann on Twitter (https://twitter.com/lipjann). Now...this person acted like this was the first time on Twitch for them. Except, they've been on Twitch for more than a year, and they've talked with Phil. For free. It is, from a cursory glance, the first time they've ever cheered. No idea on tipping.

[2017-06-11 20:54:12 UTC] pseudonymousgamer: Why did people have a problem with your template you used for the E3 conference?
[2017-06-11 20:54:22 UTC] darksydephil: because they're exceptional individuals PseudonymousGamer
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What was his response, “I prefer Tanqueray... it’s easy to drink?”
 
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Saigonara said:
There are total of 36 18 gifting options under 'gift to the community' based on three different tiers
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Edit: it's 18, not 36. I am getting a bit sleepy
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Gotta love Twitch here giving zero fucks. Even the skeeziest porn site will give you a discount for buying more (e.g. having a 12 month option highlighted as 'BEST VALUE' because the longer you pay for, the cheaper person month it will be). Not Twitch, buy 1 sub to gift or 100, exact same price per sub! This and the making bits half the value of what you pay for them thing... I don't know. They seriously kinda grind my gears because of how shamelessly greedy it is.

That's why for the only two people I've given money to on Twitch it has been a straight tip, I don't want Twitch getting shit from it when it's the streamer I'm supporting.
 
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Man, I stopped in at a primo time. Someone cheered and asked Phil about doing duos. Phil got pissy and said he wasn't doing duos ever and that people need to listen to him. Thirdeyethethird apparently got banned by Phil (for the night, cause obviously you don't permaban a $100+ cheerer)--I know this b/c thirdeye tipped $5 to complain about being banned for the night. Naturally, Phil put on his mocking voice and bitched about him being negative.

You'd think someone who just got given back anywhere from $1000-3000 a month for doing literally nothing more than pressing a button would be fucking pumped. But you'd be wrong! :lol:

Edit: He's also back to pushing tipping hard. Wonder if that has anything to do with the upcoming quarterly tax payment on September 15th?
 
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SoapQueen1 said:
I bet he doesn't care about the quarterly tax payment. I'd guess now that he's tasted the idea of not paying it until the last minute that's what he's going to do from now on.
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I'd considered that, especially since he's been completely silent about it since the last one went by. Assuming he has $100k in income, approximately what would he be looking at paying in federal tax? I seem to remember people coming up with $16k or so, but that was before the current tax law went into effect, which should have lowered his tax bill. If he "just barely makes it" after having supposedly not paid the first two quarterly payments, that'll be a bright neon sign that he's not in anywhere remotely the financial trouble he claims.
 
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Thirdeyethethird apparently got banned by Phil (for the night, cause obviously you don't permaban a $100+ cheerer)--I know this b/c thirdeye tipped $5 to complain about being banned for the night. Naturally, Phil put on his mocking voice and bitched about him being negative.
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Yeah, I saw this too when I popped in. The level-headed regulars like yolodopper, koz, markmcauley, etc. who normally show sympathy for their brothers in "DSPrison", as they call it, were all missing. What was left of the "community" did voice their support in their own way
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There's a strange line the "Detractor Half-Breeds" ride. As long has they can still enjoy Phil as an oddity, they can survive. Some end up tipping too far over and lose their patience, like thirdeyethethird did tonight, or nich has been doing for a long time.

In other news, metalgearex9000 finally snapped at Sidella
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And Sidella responded as you would expect him to
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LostMy1stAccount said:
I watched a little of Maximilian's stream today and he got like 400+ of this gifted subs in about 30 minutes (about 100 were Tier 2 subs).
At this point even he said, that this new function needs to go and is a dangerous feature.

There is kind of a group mentality in stream chats where they tend to "one up" each other. If someone starts buying 50 subs, the next one will buy 75 and so on.
The risk of spending thousands of dollars without realizing it, is very high with that kind of system.
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I wonder what he’ll actually do when Swaggins or whatever paypig finally does it. To go back to Max, he’s gotten massive donations before and it’s pretty much led to him cancelling the stream and trying to give it back because he’s profoundly uncomfortable taking really big sums from his viewers. Would Phil have the presence if mind to realize that it would look really weird to just take the money or is he really too greedy and stupid to not get rid of it?
 
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I wonder what he’ll actually do when Swaggins or whatever paypig finally does it. To go back to Max, he’s gotten massive donations before and it’s pretty much led to him cancelling the stream and trying to give it back because he’s profoundly uncomfortable taking really big sums from his viewers. Would Phil have the presence if mind to realize that it would look really weird to just take the money or is he really too greedy and stupid to not get rid of it?
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He accepted several very large tips during his Christmas begathon, including the supposed $1000 that didn't show up on screen b/c he had the notifications turned off. But he did get like a $100, $200, $300, and $500 as well, with at least a couple being from the same guy (or at least the same name was used for the tip).
 
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I wonder what he’ll actually do when Swaggins or whatever paypig finally does it. To go back to Max, he’s gotten massive donations before and it’s pretty much led to him cancelling the stream and trying to give it back because he’s profoundly uncomfortable taking really big sums from his viewers. Would Phil have the presence if mind to realize that it would look really weird to just take the money or is he really too greedy and stupid to not get rid of it?
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Good on Maximilian for doing that.

Phil, on the other hand, took $500 from austmink, and during the Christmas Beg-A-Thon wanted people to believe a nameless individual gave him $1000.

Just yesterday he claimed his account's overdrawn. It would hurt his con to begin turning away especially large donations.

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Isnt calling people retards banable? When was he raging over people getting views for playing a spomgebob game anyway?

 
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Even with the new passthrough rate drop and everything? Jesus.
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Imagine you're pulling in $90,000 as a Boeing, Microsoft, or Amazon Employee in Washington (which are, in Phil's eyes, the three companies that employ people in a 7 million population state). Imagine that you gross $3,750 per half-month, and you get the following taken out of your check:

Federal Tax: $450.00
Social Security: $227.50
Medicare/FICA: $53.20

You wipe your hands of that, and 60-80 dollars of a PPO/HMO, because you never see that, right? You take home somewhere around $2,950 and you wash your hands of it, and at the end of the year you file a 1040 and pull back 600 bucks and spend it on a TV or a Playstation and budget the rest of it out. That's what adults too.

Now, imagine you're Phil. Instead of taking home $2,950 and not having to worry about long-term risk, you're taking home $3,750 and your take home is much more significantly impacted. You're doubling your SSI/FICA input as 'self-employed' - that's $280 the average 'wage slave' doesn't think of. You're probably paying an extra $250 in health care per month just to avoid an ACA penalty. Over the course of a full year, you have $32,000+ of debts and obligations that the average employee never sees - costs that just come out of their Net Pay that they never have to consider. (

Now, imagine the average consultant, entrepreneur, small businessman with those obligations - he pulls 35 cents out of every dollar he earns over the course of a calendar year to pay for those obligations. If he's smart, he pays his federal taxes quarterly or even monthly - I won't spoil it for you. He's not smart. He melts down at a $11k+ Federal tax and $13,500+ FICA/SS obligation annually, and the last two years we've seen that in November/December since the IRS doesn't give a comfortable 3 month window for payments on self-employed businesses or S corporations that don't at least front part of their tax obligations quarterly. Again, none of this includes medical insurance payments, which are still heavily subsidized by an employer - get laid off and pay for COBRA coverage, you'll realize how much your employer drops in to your healthcare per year in America.

tl;dr: if you made as much as phil self-employed, you'd be paying $10,000+ in medical, SSI, and unemployment insurance that your employer covered. you'd also, unless you went out of your way to fuck yourself over, never see the federal tax obligation Phil's been neglecting to pay all year. Complain about him unfairly getting his adSense back, but remember that for every drop we pay into our retirements, Phil's dumping it into a black hole of a Rust Belt condo off of I-95;.

Edit: My original FICA/SS obligation assumed an employee contribution - as 'self employed', Phil doubles the Medicare and Unemployment contributions. I still don't feel comfortable talking about Washington B&O Tax, as I've seen 3 different rates Phil's 'business' could be taxed at. I get that he's thrown out specific numbers, but Phil Is A Liar.
 
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Il_Duke said:
You're probably paying an extra $250 in health care per month just to avoid an ACA penalty.
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That doesn't exist anymore.

Did we ever get lore on why DSP's previous mod DeepDrive or whatever got banned from Twitch?
EDIT: Never mind, I guess he's not.
 
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I still don't feel comfortable talking about Washington B&O Tax, as I've seen 3 different rates Phil's 'business' could be taxed at. I get that he's thrown out specific numbers, but Phil Is A Liar.
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The highest rate I've seen is 1.5%, so I've always used that. And based on the ballpark numbers he's given, that rate works out to him having made ~$90-100k per year he's been in WA, which matches pretty well with the income.
 
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