Better Call Saul

[CWCissey]

I know it goes against the tone of this show and Breaking Bad, but I just wanna see (If she survives of course) Kim in the present day at the Cinnabon Jimmy is managing. And Jimmy can't interact with her or say anything to her because then he'd have to worry about being found out.

You know what, that would be a great little intense scene.

Kim (now a high powered lawyer in Nebraska) wants to see the manager for some reason, Gene hums and ha's before seeing what this difficult customer wants. Kim doesn't recognise Jimmy at all and he's relieved yet deeply hurt at the same time.

 

[captn_kettle]

Spoiler

I don't know why everyones feeling sorry for Howard, he knows what he is doing. He is attempting to emotionally blackmail Jimmy into breaking down and admitting Chuck committed suicide because of him.

Reading the obituary to Jimmy was an attempt to make him break down, and his crocodile tears after the funeral was another attempt. The third i saw that doesn't get picked up, is how he was the only one not to offer condolences to Jimmy at the funeral. Instead Howard decides to stick back and comfort Chucks ex-wife (I'm sure that was his ex?).

Jimmy see's through this charade and instead of breaking down, goes the opposite way and perks right up.

Go back and look at it again, and imagine that Howard knows Chuck committed suicide because Jimmy ruined everything valuable to him. Imagine Howard knows what Jimmy did with the insurance provider, and imagine that Howard wants revenge for Jimmy acting so reckless.

Howard isn't stupid and he knows it was not his doing that led to Chucks death.

 

[Chester Rigby]

You know what, that would be a great little intense scene.

Kim (now a high powered lawyer in Nebraska) wants to see the manager for some reason, Gene hums and ha's before seeing what this difficult customer wants. Kim doesn't recognise Jimmy at all and he's relieved yet deeply hurt at the same time.

While I really like Kim, I kinda feel that she's not having a happy ending

 

[CausticMinory]

While I really like Kim, I kinda feel that she's not having a happy ending

I think just like Walt did with Skyler, Jimmy did with that old lady, Jimmy is gonna have to make people hate HIM to make them feel sorry for her. The question is will Kim be in on it like Skyler was, or will it be like Jimmy with the old lady.


Also, in the comparison to Breaking Bad where we had Walt and Jesse planning on killing Gus, and the aftermath of Hank getting shot. I wonder what the huge shift and danger that will happen on better call Saul? Like we already saw Jimmy could care less about Chuck dying, will Howard try to fuck with Jimmy now? Even though he literally paid Chuck out of pocket just to be done with him.

 

[DumbDosh]

I don't know what made me more tense, that ending or Kim screaming at Howard.

 

[Schmeckel]

I don't know what made me more tense, that ending or Kim screaming at Howard.

That was a fun episode. Kim telling Howard off was great. She needed to get a few more digs in there, though.

Spoiler: The End Scene

Fuck, when Arturo got rushed and bound with the bag over his head like that.... That was something else. Gus just standing there, Nacho clearly needing his brown pants, and Arturo gasping for air while desperately looking at Nacho... That was a super intense moment. "YOU. ARE. MINE." Gus is scary.

 

[CWCissey]

Spoiler

God damn Kim just bitching Howard out was cathartic, I hope he doesn't go though, I need Patrick Fabian's voice in my life. And Scary Gus is best Gus! You. ARE. MINE.

 

[Lensherr]

Spoiler

Gus Fring is hands down one of the best TV villains of all time. It's especially scary knowing he's basically untouchable at this point in time, what before ol' Walt blows half his face off in Breaking Bad.

Also, it was incredibly ironic seeing Uncle Jack from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia as one of the car dealers, since he plays a lawyer on that show.

My biggest question at this point is when and how all these different plot threads are going to come to head (if they do at all). I mean you have Jimmy, Mike, and Nacho as sort of your three main characters all doing their own things at this point, and knowing Vince Gilligan, I don't see them existing separetely forever.

 

[Vilnus Asuncion]

Spoiler

Mark m' words: Kim goes to a coma or some other horrible condition which makes Jimmy jump over the edge. I mean, he's an amoral fuck now, but not in the "Defeding Meth Dealers Which Run An Inter-State Drug Empire" level. Something has to pop off on him and if we follow the tematic elements of the Breaking Bad universe, It would be turning into a monster for the sake of someone else, like Walter did for Skyler and his children. How will this relate to him going into hiding? I dunno, she dies or gets good enough to take care of herself again or whatever, meaning Jimmy has no longer any reason to keep doing what he's doing Is my bet. Anyway, Mike is now too awesome to die.

 

[Zaragoza]

Spoiler

Good job Kim, glad you stood up for Jimmy after all that bullshit.

But I'm not catching up with the job interview part, what was that about?

 

[DumbDosh]

Spoiler

Good job Kim, glad you stood up for Jimmy after all that bullshit.

But I'm not catching up with the job interview part, what was that about?

Spoiler

Jimmy didn't want to work with people who could be so easily manipulated, he feels it's beneath him for them to be his bosses. Jimmy talks about counterfeiting with the copy machine with the job interviewers and leaves, he calls mike and says he has a job for him. 2+2=4

 

[DN 420]

Me pre-season 4: Oh man, I really like Howard! I hope they find a way to make him stay relevant in the next season.

Me now:

 

[AnOminous]

I'm not feeling good about Nacho's future. He's not only conspicuously absent from BB, but the fact he actually seems to have a moral core isn't a good sign for his future in this show.

Spoiler

Howard isn't stupid and he knows it was not his doing that led to Chucks death.

There's plenty of blame to go around for that. Jimmy may have pulled that insurance thing but it was Howard who used it as an excuse to force Chuck out of the firm.

Howard may be a legal reptile, but he's a lot less of a dick than he seemed to be at first.

Neither Jimmy nor Howard had any reason to think Chuck would actually kill himself.

 

[Schmeckel]

Spoiler

Good job Kim, glad you stood up for Jimmy after all that bullshit.

But I'm not catching up with the job interview part, what was that about?

Spoiler

I took it as Jimmy having more internal conflict with being Jimmy vs. being Saul. He went into the interview as Jimmy, he was the same attentive and caring individual he was with the elders (taking the time to ask about grandkids, make them comfortable, etc, even though it was all for money at the end of the day), and the interview went well. After leaving, he didn't feel like he had much of a chance, so he flipped his Saul switch and went back in and talk-danced his way right into the position. I thought he rejected the offer mainly because it wasn't Jimmy who got the job, it was Slippin' Jimmy/Saul.

And the figurines he was looking up and seeing there was money in them hills, there's where there's some Slippin' Jimmy coming out in a "gonna get a quick paycheck" kinda thing. The interviewer said that he intended to have someone come and haul all that junk away. Jimmy calls Mike, Mike is the junk remover, gives figurines to Jimmy, Jimmy sells them for a wad of cash....easy money.

 

[AnOminous]

Jimmy didn't want to work with people who could be so easily manipulated, he feels it's beneath him for them to be his bosses. Jimmy talks about counterfeiting with the copy machine with the job interviewers and leaves, he calls mike and says he has a job for him. 2+2=4

Jimmy didn't mention that. He just recognized the copier. It was the interviewer who mentioned the counterfeiting thing, although it's pretty obvious the reason Jimmy knew about that particular copier was he'd used it for counterfeiting $5 bills himself.

 

[Zaragoza]

Top comment:
"Saul is in the background thinking gee and I thought me and Chuck had issues!"

I'm not feeling good about Nacho's future. He's not only conspicuously absent from BB, but the fact he actually seems to have a moral core isn't a good sign for his future in this show.

Nacho's name is Ignacio and we all know Saul mentions him in Breaking Bad, so take that with a grain of salt but I'm going to believe that Nacho is going to make it.

 

[CWCissey]

Nacho's name is Ignacio and we all know Saul mentions him in Breaking Bad, so take that with a grain of salt but I'm going to believe that Nacho is going to make it.

I'm wondering who Bollo is now...

 

[AnOminous]

Nacho's name is Ignacio and we all know Saul mentions him in Breaking Bad, so take that with a grain of salt but I'm going to believe that Nacho is going to make it.

That doesn't necessarily mean he's still alive. Saul might not know what happens. All he knows is when he finds out Walt and Jesse aren't those cartel guys, he instantly recognizes a couple of marks.

 

[Schmeckel]

Maybe Nacho (and his dad) get in touch with the vacuum repairman from BB and get a new start.

 

[Zaragoza]

Just so you guys know, Chuck is right about Jimmy. The show did a good job depicting Chuck as an evil conniving bastard, but he really knew who Jimmy is.