🐱 Trump administration 'taking a look' at regulating Google

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http://thehill.com/policy/technolog...nistration-taking-a-look-at-regulating-google


White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow on Tuesday said that the administration is “taking a look” at potentially regulating Google, following President Trump’s tweets criticizing the search giant.

Trump tweeted on Tuesday morning that Google search results for “Trump News” showed results for “only the viewing/reporting of Fake New Media," he wrote, referencing prominent news outlet CNN.



“Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out,” Trump’s tweet read.
Kudlow's comments were in response to being pressed by reporters on if, in light of the president's comments, the administration is considering imposing regulations on Google.

In his tweets, Trump went on to accuse Google and other tech companies of being biased against conservatives, an increasingly common attack from Republicans.

“Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good. They are controlling what we can & cannot see. This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!” Trump tweeted.

Google shot back at the president's claims, refuting charges that it is biased against conservatives or any other political groups.

"When users type queries into the Google Search bar, our goal is to make sure they receive the most relevant answers in a matter of seconds," a Google spokesperson said in a statement.

"Search is not used to set a political agenda and we don't bias our results toward any political ideology," the statement continues. "Every year, we issue hundreds of improvements to our algorithms to ensure they surface high-quality content in response to users' queries. We continually work to improve Google Search and we never rank search results to manipulate political sentiment."

Trump joins high-profile Republicans like House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in accusing technology companies of treating conservatives on their platforms unfairly.

With support from McCarthy, the House Energy and Commerce Committee is set to hold a hearing on the matter on Sept. 5, which Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is set to testify.

Dorsey will also testify during the Senate Intelligence Committee’s hearing that day on how foreign governments have run misinformation campaigns on American tech platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Google Plus.
 
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DieselBoogaloo said:
I though Republicans were against regulations?
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Here's a flowchart, I hope it helps.
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edit: also America's vague "right-wing" is not in fact monolithic, barring a few certain cabals with a disproportionate share of power
 
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Mrs Paul said:
Doesn't China do this kind of shit?




Yep, they call it a "Google Bomb". And I'll just about guarantee you that with this latest move of Trump's, someone is going to try and create a new one for him.
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Yes, in case you weren't aware, China is totalitarian oligarchy and probably not what you want to be comparing to trump if you're a fan of his.
 
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Blagher said:
Yes, in case you weren't aware, China is totalitarian oligarchy and probably not what you want to be comparing to trump if you're a fan of his.
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No, bro, China banned the Christopher Robin movie because of Pooh jokes directed at dear leader.

If the USofA was at that point, we would be banning mangos since Trump is kinda orange.

We are not at that point, no matter how much you want to think we are.
 
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The James Damore v. Google thread over at lolcow and lolcow can really illuminate some of this. Suffice to say, the media is pearl clutching and going oh noooo....its not true! And it totally is. Senior managers of Google are self identified members of ANTIFA and even use Antifa icons on company discussion boards. They discuss regularly how they can adjust search results to bias left wing outcomes and how to deal with "the YouTube problem". I.e, all those nasty right wingers on YouTube.

The fix is totally in over at silicon valley. Trump has to cut them off at the knees because they are absolutely trying to sabotage his reelection and his party. The idiots are convinced they at right to do so as well. Which should ring alarm bells for anyone no matter what political persuasion they are.
 
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Autopsy said:
Here's a flowchart, I hope it helps.
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edit: also America's vague "right-wing" is not in fact monolithic, barring a few certain cabals with a disproportionate share of power
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Which of the branches of this flow chart we're supposed to follow seems to depend entirely on the letter next to the name of the person attacking the corporations.

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The James Damore v. Google thread over at lolcow and lolcow can really illuminate some of this. Suffice to say, the media is pearl clutching and going oh noooo....its not true! And it totally is. Senior managers of Google are self identified members of ANTIFA and even use Antifa icons on company discussion boards. They discuss regularly how they can adjust search results to bias left wing outcomes and how to deal with "the YouTube problem". I.e, all those nasty right wingers on YouTube.

The fix is totally in over at silicon valley. Trump has to cut them off at the knees because they are absolutely trying to sabotage his reelection and his party. The idiots are convinced they at right to do so as well. Which should ring alarm bells for anyone no matter what political persuasion they are.
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Why does he have to? It didn't work in 2016. Why is it going to work this time? Why take that step of establishing the precedent of presidents unilaterally fucking with media that is hostile to them?

Or rather, reinforcing it. To keep perspective, presidents have outright jailed critics of their administrations in the past. National heroes like John Adams and Abraham Lincoln are two examples. So whatever he's planning, if it even happens, probably won't even compare to that. But still, the principle is the same.
 
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Your Weird Fetish said:
Which of the branches of this flow chart we're supposed to follow seems to depend entirely on the letter next to the name of the person attacking the corporations.


Why does he have to? It didn't work in 2016. Why is it going to work this time? Why take that step of establishing the precedent of presidents unilaterally fucking with media that is hostile to them?.
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The media and internet giants actively helped his campaign in 2016, at the orders of the Clinton campaign. It was assumed if he was the Republican nominee, Clinton would cake walk to the white house. It's why CNN covered every Trump rally and totally ignored Jeb. Of course this was a case of wishing on the Monkeys Paw. As they desired, Trump became the Republican nominee. But then he also became President.

Now the knives are out for the "alternative media", mainly the social media influencers and pundits with a right wing bent who are blamed, somewhat correctly, for the Trump win. People like Carl Benjamin, Alex Jones etc. Trump needs to do something about it because unlike in 2016, they are trying to shut his message down, and deplatform his supporters.
 
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The media and internet giants actively helped his campaign in 2016, at the orders of the Clinton campaign. It was assumed if he was the Republican nominee, Clinton would cake walk to the white house. It's why CNN covered every Trump rally and totally ignored Jeb. Of course this was a case of wishing on the Monkeys Paw. As they desired, Trump became the Republican nominee. But then he also became President.

Now the knives are out for the "alternative media", mainly the social media influencers and pundits with a right wing bent who are blamed, somewhat correctly, for the Trump win. People like Carl Benjamin, Alex Jones etc. Trump needs to do something about it because unlike in 2016, they are trying to shut his message down, and deplatform his supporters.
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Yes that explains the primary. Once he won that and became literally hitler, it somehow still didn't negatively affect him.
 
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Commander Keen said:
No, bro, China banned the Christopher Robin movie because of Pooh jokes directed at dear leader.

If the USofA was at that point, we would be banning mangos since Trump is kinda orange.

We are not at that point, no matter how much you want to think we are.
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I don't know bruh, I saw handmaidend's tale last night and didn't realize trump was looking to legalize concubines
 
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I don't know if google does this on purpose or not, but it's pretty believable that they would. What's funny is CNN has put out multiple articles since it happened about how Google definitely doesn't. How do they know?
Most people still haven't figured out that google tailors their search results. Or like, they know it in theory but conveniently forget about it when stuff like this happens.
 
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google is close to being a monopolist in the internet advertising space. they have advantages no competitor can hope to beat:

example:
- associating a user on a mobile device to a desktop device
- retaining all of a user's search history
- having a user's email, and the data to associate their purchasing preferences
- 60% of all US browser traffic is via chrome, which they can use via gmail to associate to an ID, which can be associated to multiple desktop or mobile devices
- root access to a mobile device. they can associate your desktop browsing with your mobile browsing with the use of your gmail ID. they know every single place you've been. if i am an ad buyer, where would i go to except the panopticon that is google?

why is this a monopoly? no one else can accomplish this across mobile and desktop ads. with most internet advertising outfits, you need to associate users via their IP address, which is tremendously unreliable.

final part: fuck google, they make my life profoundly difficult because they monopolize the retarded space i work in.

e: apologies, i accidentally posted this
 
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wellthathappened said:
Google is not a monopoly anymore than Facebook is a monopoly. There are privacy-minded/crypto alternatives to use if you choose to.

The idea that we need laws to punish platforms for banning Alex Jones is really going to end badly.
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It's not a monopoly among search engines at all. It is close to a monopoly in internet advertising. From a public policy or moral perspective internet advertising is irrelevant at best. The issue is the competitive space that they are in.

e: my point is tangential
 
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omnihitler said:
It's not a monopoly among search engines at all. It is close to a monopoly in internet advertising. From a public policy or moral perspective internet advertising is irrelevant at best. The issue is the competitive space that they are in.
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Why did you just conflate public policy with moral perspective? Are you presenting the latter as justification for the former?

If so, I must politely disagree.
 
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