DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[werek89]

Engagement?

Okay, so here is a suggestion: Why not make your videos BETTER, so peepul WANNA watch the whole video... I dunno, maybe you can cut out the boring parts oops I almost said the cursed E word.

Agree there is a simple way how to get views. He should play indie games according to his statements, he said that many of his spectators do not want that to play that and many are bored. Thats the problem.

Why can dansgaming do that and he does not? This is just stupid.

Simple suggestion play every friday because many come from work and do not want to see shenmue or dark souls 3.
Nobody asked for that maybe a few people wanted it but it is not relevant. You have like games Scum; Graveyard Keeper; Path of Exile; Pathalogic 2 Alpha Version : Thief games ; Jackbox games.

Yes some games would experience errors but it is a lot better to see other than now. And one more thing, I've seen a letsplay to pathalogic 2 alpha version and there took a day about 3 hours.

Why I say that because there are few people playing that would be an advantage you could better search him and you would look negative but from the side. It's better to see something new from him than what he shows now.

 

[OneDaySon]

It was an ALERT! this time rather than EMERGENCY!
Also has anyone turned off adblock and checked out a DSP video before? I haven't but I've heard there'll be like 8 ads on a 20 minute video and shit.

 

[Prince Lotor]

AhhHaHahahaa! He told his fans to buy YouTube Premium to support him better
This reminds me of his 'If just 10% of my viewcount gave me a dahllar a month, $1!!!, I'd never have to fucking worry about money.'
Except now it's, 'If my viewcount all bought YouTube Premium, $12 a month, I'd never have to worry about Ad Revenue again, and you wouldn't ever get an ad. .(Snort) Sound good?'

He was actually fucking shilling for YouTube Premium after shitting all over YouTube for being dumbfucks who can't figure out how to make an ad play on anything besides a PC. You can't make this shit up. He listed out YouTube's transgressions against his august personage, ranted about what dumbfucks they are, and followed it up with 'Please consider purchasing their $11.99 per month Premium service, it's a good deal!'

 

[Wurstbrot]

Instead of writing an entire essay, I'm glad I could edit the post together and sum it up. I did some easy research. Again.

So, he claims most ads won't be played properly on mobile devices or his TV, meanwhile all ads are played on PC.
He checked his TV, which got 2 ads. He checked his mobile which got 1 ad. And the PC which got all 4 ads.
I will give it away: Phil is an horrible investigator, but it's not his fault, nothing he could do.

Apparently Dave Burnett is not aware that ads can easily change each time you refresh the video. The videos searches for a new "pool of ads" each time, sometimes there are more ads, sometimes there are less, but they are there and kinda try to equal the quantity -- for all I could understand.
Obviously, when the ads change each time there is no fixed ad dedicated to your video, it's more like some kind of "pool". If you activate every single "pool", the videos gets the potential to use any single pool. Also, from left to right, the ads make more money as they are longer and more dominant. But also most common to less common, from left to right.

For example if you check Dave's videos without adblocker (darn, I gave him money with this, right?) you can encounter every single "pool". As I encountered a non-skippable, there was no ad after that. Could be an error, but I tip on the level of reasonable quantities. You can't, you will never, there is no way a video will have more than 1 non-skippable ad. The one I encountered had the length of 1 minute (uuuugh), so waiting 1 minute to hear a pig grunt into the mic.

Sometimes the pools seem to be "empty", which is, fair enough, strange enough. Sometimes there are 6 overlay ads, sometimes just 4, even on PC so Phil's explanation is invalid. This could be an error, but maybe it has something to do with the contract in between Youtube and the sponsors. You see, the sponsors have to pay for every single ad (with the small ones quite cheap, the bigger ones quite costly). If their ads get shown in unlimited quantities, everywhere, they would go bankrupt very fast. So this can't be the way it works. Instead the image of a literal "pool" seems still quite fitting.
Maybe, just maybe, what if there are only so many existing ads allowed at the same time, based on the contract? You literally learn in business school how costly every second of ad time is, so not limiting the amount of played ads on the whole website would make no sense. So it could happen these "pools" go empty because the video couldn't find a fitting ad. You should never forget, the video creators aren't the customers, they just wear the fancy t-shirt which states "Buy this stuff". The real customers are the sponsors, the producers of service and goodies.

Also Dave is literally blind. The most common and cheap type of ad which he also uses:

DESKTOP. ONLY.

 

[werek89]

Something is wrong with phil. He disabled likes and dislikes.

 

[Zack the ripper]

To MEEEE i think dave is just a bitch and here's why :
1-he didn't upload shit for 2 and half a week
2-he is without a mcn
so it's only natural that he makes less money according to social blade his monthly views are sub one mill so no shit he made less money
i think he is throwing a bitch fit at his paypigs , and all this adblock shit is irrelevant
it just makes sense bruh

 

[PieceofShet]

Instead of writing an entire essay, I'm glad I could edit the post together and sum it up. I did some easy research. Again.

So, he claims most ads won't be played properly on mobile devices or his TV, meanwhile all ads are played on PC.
He checked his TV, which got 2 ads. He checked his mobile which got 1 ad. And the PC which got all 4 ads.
I will give it away: Phil is an horrible investigator, but it's not his fault, nothing he could do.

Apparently Dave Burnett is not aware that ads can easily change each time you refresh the video. The videos searches for a new "pool of ads" each time, sometimes there are more ads, sometimes there are less, but they are there and kinda try to equal the quantity -- for all I could understand.
Obviously, when the ads change each time there is no fixed ad dedicated to your video, it's more like some kind of "pool". If you activate every single "pool", the videos gets the potential to use any single pool. Also, from left to right, the ads make more money as they are longer and more dominant. But also most common to less common, from left to right.

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For example if you check Dave's videos without adblocker (darn, I gave him money with this, right?) you can encounter every single "pool". As I encountered a non-skippable, there was no ad after that. Could be an error, but I tip on the level of reasonable quantities. You can't, you will never, there is no way a video will have more than 1 non-skippable ad. The one I encountered had the length of 1 minute (uuuugh), so waiting 1 minute to hear a pig grunt into the mic.

Sometimes the pools seem to be "empty", which is, fair enough, strange enough. Sometimes there are 6 overlay ads, sometimes just 4, even on PC so Phil's explanation is invalid. This could be an error, but maybe it has something to do with the contract in between Youtube and the sponsors. You see, the sponsors have to pay for every single ad (with the small ones quite cheap, the bigger ones quite costly). If their ads get shown in unlimited quantities, everywhere, they would go bankrupt very fast. So this can't be the way it works. Instead the image of a literal "pool" seems still quite fitting.
Maybe, just maybe, what if there are only so many existing ads allowed at the same time, based on the contract? You literally learn in business school how costly every second of ad time is, so not limiting the amount of played ads on the whole website would make no sense. So it could happen these "pools" go empty because the video couldn't find a fitting ad. You should never forget, the video creators aren't the customers, they just wear the fancy t-shirt which states "Buy this stuff". The real customers are the sponsors, the producers of service and goodies.

Also Dave is literally blind. The most common and cheap type of ad which he also uses:

View attachment 532042

DESKTOP. ONLY.

Didnt Dave said sthing about he will not use unskippable ads?

 

[Zack the ripper]

Didnt Dave said sthing about he will not use unskippable ads?

according to dave you can only access thos ads if you were with an mcn

 

[Wurstbrot]

Didnt Dave said sthing about he will not use unskippable ads?

according to dave you can only access thos ads if you were with an mcn

Strange, isn't it? But as he told us, the situation changed, he needs the money to pay the bills. I wish I still had that screenshot of the 1 minute ad (it was something about better grammar, which would indeed help me, lol), but it got lost in my temporary data space as I shortened my post. Let's say he's right, maybe this aspect of unskippable ads changed.

Uuuuuh, I completely ignored the rest of his video. Just irrelevant whining (because he's simply wrong) and begging. Does he even understand how free content works? At some point in his life he decided to go into this market of Youtube where people get free videos and the content creators get paid by the company. Free stays free, nobody signed a contract that stated they have to "step up" when they watch enough videos. Some free magazines did that, dunno if this is still a thing.
When stuff is free they use another method of gaining money. Like microtransactions or in his case: Ads. We see the ads. The work of his audience is done. Nobody has to owe him money because they watch, I repeat, literally and 100% free content.

 

[Hrothgar]

https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1035751000441643009
"@artyom_saveli You mean the perks I always go above and beyond for? FYI you probably shouldn’t be listening to the dregs of the internet who make a living off slandering me."

Uh, Dave? I make my living at a job. Not that you'd know what that's like.

 

[Zack the ripper]

well guys i hate to say it but phil doesn't understand shit about shit
here's a vid by the almighty fuchs

in which dave thinks that an ad should play anytime you click a new video which is absurd , imagine binge watching some 1 min clips the fuck that would look like ?
youtube wants entertaining vids thats why viewers retention stat is important , and ads play according to a mixture of time spent watching plus a percentage so the fuck is he talking about ?

 

[johnny5150]

View attachment 532034

He uploads an hr worth of gameplay but within that hr of gameplay you see/ have doing:
-most of that time is dead air, Phil is saying a word.
-Phil bitching/complaining about the game.
-e-begging.
-try to funny but comes out either racist or just cringy.

Here are some of the reasons why his raw gameplay is doing so bad.

(Oh yea Phil doesn't realize that raw gameplay is dead.)

 

[Prince Lotor]

Dave frantically trying to wrap his pea-brain around how the ads he gets turn into the money he gets from AdSense is just all around hilarious to me. This is legitimately the first time he has ever put any real thought into it and those were his conclusions. He not aware how much control advertisers have over what their ads get placed on now. He framed it as if every yellow bar on any video is Dave Bennett placing an order for an ad from YouTube that they have to fill, otherwise they are dumbfucks who can't run a business. He has no idea advertisers can select categories they do and don't want their ads to appear on.
For example Gaming content, violent content, content with lots of swearing(like constantly talking about ass-fucking ), political content, etc. If your content ticks a lot of boxes advertisers don't want to associate with there will be a lot less ads available to you. Dave isn't under the umbrella of an MCN anymore and hasn't the slightest clue about how anything works when your content is directly beholden to YouTube's systems.
It's like watching an ostrich who's had it's ass in the air for a decade and had food periodically poured into the hole in the ground it never pulls it's head from suddenly realize food has been cut off and has a dim dawning awareness it has a body it can use to interact with it's environment. I'm just waiting for when he pulls his head out and realizes he's standing next to a gigantic pile of mouldering shit.

Here's a video about hidden ratings systems that are likely still in use

Here's one about codes that YouTube seemed to be using to demonitize content that they immediately hid once creators caught on

 

[Zack the ripper]

Dave frantically trying to wrap his pea-brain around how the ads he gets turn into the money he gets from AdSense is just all around hilarious to me. This is legitimately the first time he has ever put any real thought into it and those were his conclusions. He not aware how much control advertisers have over what their ads get placed on now. He framed it as if every yellow bar on any video is Dave Bennett placing an order for an ad from YouTube that they have to fill, otherwise they are dumbfucks who can't run a business. He has no idea advertisers can select categories they do and don't want their ads to appear on.
For example Gaming content, violent content, content with lots of swearing(like constantly talking about ass-fucking ), political content, etc. If your content ticks a lot of boxes advertisers don't want to associate with there will be a lot less ads available to you. Dave isn't under the umbrella of an MCN anymore and hasn't the slightest clue about how anything works when your content is directly beholden to YouTube's systems.
It's like watching an ostrich who's had it's ass in the air for a decade and had food periodically poured into the hole in the ground it never pulls it's head from suddenly realize food has been cut off and has a dim dawning awareness it has a body it can use to interact with it's environment. I'm just waiting for when he pulls his head out and realizes he's standing next to a gigantic pile of mouldering shit.

Here's a video about hidden ratings systems that are likely still in use

Here's one about codes that YouTube seemed to be using to demonitize content that they immediately hid once creators caught on

shout out to the nerd city doood and his hot ass gf kim iirc <3

 

[actually]

Do you do anything to take ad block into account or is that number a best case scenario where every ad is being counted as watched? Not suggesting it because i'd have no clue how to estimate that plus Youtube has so many other variables while Twitch is more straightforward, just wondering.

That's why I use a range. It's pretty much impossible to know how adblock, content ID claims, and copyright claims affect the average CPM. As I noted before, I set the high end at $2 CPM based on the average of 2017 and Phil's claims about how much he made. So even that is an estimate at best.

It was an ALERT! this time rather than EMERGENCY!
Also has anyone turned off adblock and checked out a DSP video before? I haven't but I've heard there'll be like 8 ads on a 20 minute video and shit.

From screenshots I've seen, he has an ad placed every 10 minutes with as many ads as he can cram into each video.

 

[ZehnBoat]

(Oh yea Phil doesn't realize that raw gameplay is dead.)

the only time, in this day and age, that people want to see raw gameplay, is when the player is showing off skill, or showing the cutscenes.
your only choices are:

• be funny
• be good
• or shut up and let people watch the game

phil isn't funny, he needs his hand held so he's not good, and he talks during cutscenes
phil isn't relevant. he's old hat. he thinks just because he was there at the start, and his name is DSP the world owes him a living.

it'd be like if some old rock n roller who only plays 2 chords walked into a guitar solo contest and got angry because "IM DARKSYDEPHIL, I INVENTED THE GUITAR! YOU OTHER GUYS ARE SHILLS" then started to flap his arms while arfing.

 

[P.J. Soulslike]

Phil spoke for over 10 minutes and all I could hear was "longer videos are better but I hate being proven wrong so here's something I pulled out of my arse to prove I'm right".

 

[Heckler1]

I pity the people who actually listen and take Phil seriously when he has his "real talks". I feel like they've bought lots of bridges.

 

[Destro1986]

Dave frantically trying to wrap his pea-brain around how the ads he gets turn into the money he gets from AdSense is just all around hilarious to me. This is legitimately the first time he has ever put any real thought into it and those were his conclusions. He not aware how much control advertisers have over what their ads get placed on now. He framed it as if every yellow bar on any video is Dave Bennett placing an order for an ad from YouTube that they have to fill, otherwise they are dumbfucks who can't run a business. He has no idea advertisers can select categories they do and don't want their ads to appear on.
For example Gaming content, violent content, content with lots of swearing(like constantly talking about ass-fucking ), political content, etc. If your content ticks a lot of boxes advertisers don't want to associate with there will be a lot less ads available to you. Dave isn't under the umbrella of an MCN anymore and hasn't the slightest clue about how anything works when your content is directly beholden to YouTube's systems.
It's like watching an ostrich who's had it's ass in the air for a decade and had food periodically poured into the hole in the ground it never pulls it's head from suddenly realize food has been cut off and has a dim dawning awareness it has a body it can use to interact with it's environment. I'm just waiting for when he pulls his head out and realizes he's standing next to a gigantic pile of mouldering shit.

Here's a video about hidden ratings systems that are likely still in use

Here's one about codes that YouTube seemed to be using to demonitize content that they immediately hid once creators caught on

I believe advertisers can also select which platforms their ads play on, since different platforms have different demographics.

 

[BrunoMattei]