Hatred (Game)

Wow, um, that was quite a trailer. All I have to say is this:


EDIT: I did some thinking and I produced this as well.

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The law prevented him from being violent. It shall do so no longer!
 
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Wow, uh, quite the trailer. Apart from the whole thing being 3edgy5me and me agreeing with Rio, it seems like what would happen if you took Postal and removed all of the dark humor and any sense of irony it had about itself.

I'm just going to leave this here:


There were two of these but this one had the funnier one-liners...ah well
 
Wow, uh, quite the trailer. Apart from the whole thing being 3edgy5me and me agreeing with Rio, it seems like what would happen if you took Postal and removed all of the dark humor and any sense of irony it had about itself.

I'm just going to leave this here:


There were two of these but this one had the funnier one-liners...ah well
I would pay any amount of money for this game if I heard Tommy Wiseau's voice every time I killed someone.
 
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Who we are is not important. What is important is our plan.

I just fucking hate this plane and the small guys included in its flight plan. My whole life is just extremely painful, and I always wanted to crash it with no survivors. This is the time for fear, doctor, and no fire is worth rising. And I will put in the wreckage as many as I can, brother. It's time for me to shoot a man and it's time for me to throw him out of a plane.
My big crusade begins… for you.
 
It just looks unremarkable. A while back I remember playing a game put out by some white supremacist organization that liked to pretend it wasn't a shit game. I have never played any sort of controversial game that was actually fun to any degree. This looks extremely repetitive and un-fun.

That said, on my old PC are screenshots of fucking around with the physics from JFK Reloaded.
 
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Streisand effect is what?

At this point I actually support this game. Not because of what it is, but what it represents. Which is that in order to believe in Freedom of Speech you also need to allow speech you disagree with to prosper.
 
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Just so you guys know, nazi imagery in Eastern Europe usually has a lot more to do with anti-communism and anti-authoritarianism (ironic, I know). I'm not sure if Poland is westernised enough for nazi imagery to mean 'fuck the jews' instead of 'fuck the government', but in most ex-communist states it's largely the latter, and only slowly coming to incorporate the former. Keep in mind that Poland was under a communist regime for a pretty long time, and that the actual memory of that regime is far more real to the people there than the history of the Nazi occupation. And that's even if you discount the possibility he's wearing it just to be edgy (like Sid Vicious in his swastika shirt, for example)

I'm not saying these guys aren't neo-nazis, but to assume they are based on one guy wearing a shirt is pretty dumb, especially considering the cultural differences at play. These guys lived under a murderous communist regime and one of them is wearing an anti-communist militia shirt. It's a pretty big stretch to call them neo-nazis.
 
It's sad they're totally relying on shock instead of trying to make something fun. Just like how SJW and fundies hide behind their "morals" when called on anything, shock-artists can do something similar. That you're just a PC-Nazi with "no sense of humor" or are "too dumb to get it".

What I think would be the perfect ending is if the main character was walking among the corpses and getting a good look at them for the first time. By looking at the pictures on their desks/wallets/houses and the loved ones morning their loss and he realizes these were people with dreams, lives and purpose and that compared to them, his angst was insignificant. This rage and hate didn't bring him any peace and he has only made things worse. So he falls to his knees, breaks down in tears, begging for them to forgive him as the armed forces come to arrest him with no struggle. It would be a great kick to the face to all those "edgy" players.
 
Just so you guys know, nazi imagery in Eastern Europe usually has a lot more to do with anti-communism and anti-authoritarianism (ironic, I know). I'm not sure if Poland is westernised enough for nazi imagery to mean 'fuck the jews' instead of 'fuck the government', but in most ex-communist states it's largely the latter, and only slowly coming to incorporate the former. Keep in mind that Poland was under a communist regime for a pretty long time, and that the actual memory of that regime is far more real to the people there than the history of the Nazi occupation. And that's even if you discount the possibility he's wearing it just to be edgy (like Sid Vicious in his swastika shirt, for example)

I'm not saying these guys aren't neo-nazis, but to assume they are based on one guy wearing a shirt is pretty dumb, especially considering the cultural differences at play. These guys lived under a murderous communist regime and one of them is wearing an anti-communist militia shirt. It's a pretty big stretch to call them neo-nazis.
Spot on. The cultural context between Western and Eastern Europe is too different. In former Soviet bloc countries there is a large percentage of people who are nostalgic for the Soviet period and Communism, even in Poland. If a guy wears a shirt or otherwise shows nominal support for a far right-wing group, he's likely not expressing "Heil Hitler" but rather "Fuck Stalin."

So you can't say "the dev team is Neo-Nazis" for that reason, and because that guy in the shirt is probably no different than your average 2edgy young American guy. Even if it were true that the dev team was composed of avowed Neo-Nazis, that doesn't mean that the game is meant to promote such an ideology, either. They didn't design the game such that your goal is to eradicate Jews or other minorities; it's just "violence for the sake of violence." Here's what the company's CEO said about the purpose of the game's existence:

Scary Polish dude said:
"By the game? That we should not bend under political correctness propaganda which we can see everywhere right now. We live in the free world, with freedom of speech and artistic expression and we should use it in any way we want, otherwise we'll be falling under SJWs [Social Justice Warriors] regime. Some reactions for this trailer are a great example of this. Fortunately there are many people who understand us and are standing on our side."

So the game exists for the same reason that people will take an icon of Christ and submerge it in a container of urine, then call it "art." In particular, it's a reaction against the cultural movement to enforce diversity and inclusivity in games. It creates a funny tension in games discussions because you get the "Games are art!" people suddenly backpedaling and saying "Well, except for this one, so it shouldn't exist, and shame on the creators."

Personally, I like that the game exists, but I have no desire to play it, and I can't imagine who would bother doing so.The best thing you can do is laugh at the people who get offended while the game is getting its fleeting media attention, then ignore it once it inevitably becomes a forgotten cultural relic.
 
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In this photo of the development team, we can see that one of the developers wears a shirt depicting a historical anti-communist military group (Żołnierze wyklęci, historically associated with the Freikorps) that is lionised by right wing extremists.
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Another team member, ‘CEO and Animator’ Jarosław Zieliński, has prominently displayed an endorsement on his public Facebook page of the Polska Liga Obrony: an established nationalist Islamophobic, anti-immigration hate group.
Jesus what the fuck is with retarded neo nazis and skeletons? This guy seems like an older, slightly more compotent Tyce.
 
So an update on this game. This game was put up on Steam Greenlight not too long ago, and Steam has pulled it from Greenlight.

IMO it's pretty bullshit for Steam pulling Hatred for violence when in reality it isn't any more violent then a bunch of games on Steam. Steam really needs to get their shit straight, nudity is allowed in a lot of games for sale on steam but they will pull Visual Novels on Steam for the same thing.
 
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