Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Neil]

Who else is gonna bet that the "BBC Documentary" Sargon was gloating about is actually going to be a documentary on the UKIP group as a whole, and he'll only be given a minute or so of screentime to say something because Dankula refused to?

He really showed Jim didn't he?

I'm 92% sure he used Inspect Element to change that date.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

The "War Plan Purple" account? Yeah I don't know who is using it (either Sargon, one of his pals or both) but if Carl really believes in his political party then that shit has to stop fast or he will ruin a lot of people from inside UKIP.
What Carl is doing to UKIP reminds me of the same thing that happened to the libertarian party in the US where it got co-opted and turned into ridicule by a group of far-leftists/anarchists (one of them is a fat bearded guy who appeared naked at one of their rallies).

UKIP definitely needs to have a disavow press release drafted ready in case the time comes for them to cut bait.

E.g.

"UKIP recently invited two YouTubers to the European Parliament to discuss the EU's changes to copyright law. Since then it has been brought to our attention one of them, Carl Benjamin, has made comments on Youtube videos which do not accord with our values as a party. We are thus ceasing our relationship with Mr Benjamin"

 

[Spooky]

Sargon and co. have resorted to "dox urself and fight me IRL"
Jim should take them up on it and just send some random fan who does amateur MMA as nobody knows who he is

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

The Jim folder might not be what it appears to be. Or they made an excuse.

Why the fuck is SFO Internet laughing over this? If the Jim folder was really his and not Carl’s, that reflects more badly on him than it does anyone else.

Anywho, I can’t think of any other reason for Sarg’n to have done what we did besides literally suffering a mental breakdown. In a week or two, expect a story make the headlines about a fat, middle-aged neckbeard caught buck-ass naked and jackin’ it in the streets of London or wherever the fuck he lives. No one liked his suit, so why bother wearing anything at all at this point?

 

[not william stenchever]

E.g.

"UKIP recently invited two YouTubers to the European Parliament to discuss the EU's changes to copyright law. Since then it has been brought to our attention one of them, Carl Benjamin, has made comments on Youtube videos which do not accord with our values as a party. We are thus ceasing our relationship with Mr Benjamin"

I missed the E.g. at first and for a moment was having an "IT'S HAPPENING" moment.
Also this thread was at 204 pages earlier and now its at 239 holy shit

Edit: 240

Also this: https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1041446675573813250 / http://archive.is/BS6p4
So fucking good

 

[Ask Jeeves]

Sargon and co. have resorted to "dox urself and fight me IRL"
Jim should take them up on it and just send some random fan who does amateur MMA as nobody knows who he is

This is the man who needs 17 stipulations to show up to a google hangout, never-mind a boxing ring.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I missed the E.g. at first and for a moment was having an "IT'S HAPPENING" moment.
Also this thread was at 204 pages earlier and now its at 239 holy shit

Edit: 240

I'm honestly interested to see if the he's hit the bait cutting point now, or if he'll reach it with the BBC documentary or with some other video he makes this week.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Why the fuck would a man who admitted he is ill, ill enough to stop doing Youtube, fucking fly across the country/world, dox himself, and risk his health, for some faggot he already destroyed?

Of course Tonka already is in it, having a massive erection.

 

[shekelshoah666]

Sargon and co. have resorted to "dox urself and fight me IRL"
Jim should take them up on it and just send some random fan who does amateur MMA as nobody knows who he is

And people say these fags aren't working together in a discord server doing these 24 hour ops.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

"He reacted to my stream, how predictable can he be?" - Sargon
I'm pretty sure that if I accused a random YouTuber of grooming children he/she will react to it. I don't understand why he feels like such a mastermind over such an obvious outcome.

Don't you see!? Jim cannot handle critisism! Want proof?

I called him a child grooming pedophile and he responded by laughing at me! I rest my case your honour!


The sad part is he probably believes this.

 

[GhostButt]

I'm 92% sure he used Inspect Element to change that date.

Not sure a boomer as old as me or sagtits could figure that out, nice reach though

 

[not william stenchever]

Call me an idiot if you want but I figure Tonka is just having a lark with this one and knows there is no upside for Jim to ever agree to it. I think the joke is Sargon going "Fite me IRL" and them asking Tonka to give them a venue. Implicitly: "lol okay I guess 'fite me IRL' isn't cringey when you do it"

This shit writes itself https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1041447698241609731 / http://archive.is/hByRO

 

[BillionaireBrat]

At one point Vee said Sargon's comments had caused 'deliberations' inside UKIP. Presumably someone emailed them to UKIP and they deliberated about whether to kick him out or not.

If you read Farage's book he was pretty clear about how he let Robert Kilroy-Silk in, despite Kilroy-Silk being a dubious character - he was a daytime TV host with severe megalomania and a tendency to make terrible political gaffes. On the other hand he brought publicity to the party on the proto Trumpian principle that 'there's no such thing as bad publicity'. Being a megalomaniac he attempted a coup, was blocked by the rules and resigned in a huff.

Anyway Farage said of him that 'I got more out of Kilroy-Silk than he got out me'. This is referencing the Churchill quote about he 'got more out of alcohol than it got out of him'.

Anyhow the point is that Farage knew that Kilroy-Silk was a bit of loose cannon, he also knew that he'd cause the press to write about UKIP and he decided to let him for a bit and then cut him loose, even though in this case Kilroy-Silk cut himself loose. If I were Sargon and people in UKIP had said they were deliberating, I'd suspect I'd narrowly avoided being kicked out for his 'white niggers' comment.

Here's Farage on Kilroy-Silk after the later left UKIP

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/nigel-farage-robert-kilroy-silk-crackers-4743774



I.e. UKIP might well let in Sargon and co for publicity and to try to get people to join. Then they'll look at the numbers of new members and the net publicity and decided whether to keep 'em on or boot 'em out. I.e. all it takes is for some MSM publication to do a hit piece on Sargon and then see that UKIP only got a few hundred new members and then issue a press release disavowing them.

Then again maybe UKIP will decide that, like Trump, the journalists calling Sargon 'Alt Right' are the same ones calling UKIP 'Alt Right' and the people likely to vote for UKIP don't really care what they think.

I suspect Theresa May's BREXIT policy has more effect on UKIP's support than Sargon. If she sticks to her current Chequers policy (out of the EU but still abiding by EU rules), the Conservatives will have a meltdown and UKIP will benefit. If she does a U turn, abandons Chequers and aims for the UK to be out of the EU but with a free trade agreement like Canada has, UKIP will stay at their current level of support. And it's worth pointing out that Boris Johnson, a totally untrustworthy politician, just became the front runner to succeed May for two reasons. One was saying that burqas 'look like letterboxes' in an article where he opposed a burqa ban on libertarian grounds, and one is that Trump publicly tipped him as someone who'd made a good PM. Ie Boris is doing Trumpian politics of trolling the left and then gaining support from everyone else who hates them. Arguably UKIP getting in some Youtube trolls to troll the mostly far left media isn't a bad idea and they can always toss them under the bus if it seems expedient.

We live in dysfunctional, though very amusing times...

BTW Sargon will make a complete fool of himself in the upcoming BBC documentary.

Finally, some good fucking food. I'm so happy someone actually knows about this here. Thank you mate.

 

[Grand Lunar]

Sargon and co. have resorted to "dox urself and fight me IRL"
Jim should take them up on it and just send some random fan who does amateur MMA as nobody knows who he is

While he's clearly joking, an official boxing match between the two of them would probably be entertaining. I doubt either are any good, and both are overweight and going on 40. The match would probably just go on until one of them got tired and decided to give it up, though I can't say for sure who that would be. Though, it could be Sargon since he at least gets some physical activity in the form of rock climbing.

 

[JB 236]

why do these retards always go to boxing matches?

Just have a knife fight you cunts, at least if one lives they will be confirmed the better man.

 

[HTL5N]

For anyone who is not aware, Jim was disingenuous in his attempt to paint Haberman as a clown by showing that
terrible rap video he made. Jim actually explained what the context of that video was on a stream with Vee. It was made to try to ingratiate Haberman into the juggalo community, so they could fuck with them.

I think the point Jim was making wasn't that Habermann is autistic, but more that Metokur was kind of just for fun instead of an evil cabal.

I missed the E.g. at first and for a moment was having an "IT'S HAPPENING" moment.
Also this thread was at 204 pages earlier and now its at 239 holy shit

Edit: 240

Also this: https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1041446675573813250 / http://archive.is/BS6p4
So fucking good

Jim has replaced Maddox as the patron saint of trolls

 

[Done]

Why? He doesn't lie about his patreon, and while I am totally fine with making fun of people for giving money to internet people, I can't really blame anyone, including people like Carl or DSP from taking advantage of the free money.

Taking people's money when they happily stuffing it into your hands doesn't make you a bad person.

Apologies for the late reply, had to go out for a bit.

The moment you get paid for trolling people, it ceases to become shitposting, because now money is a potential motivator behind what content you produces, who you troll to produce it..etc.

Incidentally, Maddox's descent started because he started trying to monetize his trolling, because if you start to base your lifestyle on the income you get for trolling people, your trolling will inevitably change for the worse, and Jim has seemingly switched to a far less interesting form of content for what seems like better pay (via Superchats), right now, he is the only person who is really clinging to the long-dead, rotting corpse of IBS.

I'm not sure which is funnier, watching Sargon LARP like he's some kind of serious adult politician/soyfather or people trying to defend him as not being profoundly pants crappingly stoopid.

I'm not yet up on the last few pages of this thread, but since the featured post, I didn't see anyone defending Sargon, you'd have to be an absolute mongoloid to defend someone who thinks he's superior to other people because he wore a suit.

At this point I'm starting to wonder whether or not Sargon was paid off by an interest group to implode UKIP and /pol/. He keeps co-opting stuff and turns them into embarrassing husks of their former selves. First with the kekistan thing. Now with the making a suicidal spectacle that is going to reflect badly on all people who are involved with him as well as free speech activists. Wouldn't put it above a guy who says he'll lie when it's convenient to him.

That's just speculation though.

The problem with your thinking is that Sargon is going to be unsuccessful at anything he does. He is too incompetent to be able to willingly implode anything.

I don't think this drama will necessarily end Sargon's career either. Other people have bounced back from far worse, I presume. Carl's numbers will drip away for a while, then rise back up as people forget about this incident and/or move on.

None of the people involved have careers anyways, YouTube or not, fucking Jake Paul gets more money/views for dumbass videos in suicide forests than all of them combined.

Why are you so obsessed with "it's cause we have no dox, he isn't a cow"? If we didn't know who Spoony really is, but he kept doing what he is doing now, wouldn't he still be a lolcow? Same goes for almost everyone who has a thread here. Hell, if MM made a stream about Sargon with the same level of argumentation, people would mock him right now instead of Carl.

Spoony is a bad example here, because due to his aspiration for stardom, he never protected his anonymity in any real way (which in itself is a right, and as much as I disagree with and question Jim right now, I don't begrudge him for protecting his).

The reason any Jim cow thread will rely on dox is because right now, he controls all the info about his personal life (most of the doxing attempts are based off info he himself volunteered, which means said info could be fake), if Jim doesn't want you to know how much his personal life is fucked, you won't know it, end of story, and with it, end of thread.

In that sense, he could be a perfectly normal person with a healthy life whose hobby is to mock autists online, or he could be an absolute autist with nothing going for him who spends his days trollshielding through mocking autists online. Both possibilities are distinct, yet equal in probability right now, that will only change if his dox is out.

 

[BoomerPhil]

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Also this is the text of TL;DR's comment being passed around if anyone wanted it:

Spoiler: TL;DR text

Stream summary: Jim is a pedophile and sick people can't make videos.

Sargon, you're a acting like an egotistical moron on this issue and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Oh wow, you got to go meet some people once in a crappy suit that doesn't fit. Yes, you really are the most important person in the world, so much better than all the other internet plebs.

Reality check: You're some randomer on the internet who has paid to be on board UKIP to get some cool kids points with the internet. You are not important to the party beyond being a useful clown to catch a few extra eyes. Considering the raw numbers and linear time you have been barely any help to the party and have been vastly over shadowed by real world events.

You have openly stated that you oppose the party on several issues and have even gone so far as to try to brand yourself as the "liberalist" branch of UKIP. I know you think you're some sort of big politics smart man, you've been trying to create your own political party/movement from day one and every single one of them failed (see, Rationalist, Skeptics, Liberalists). The only reason you're having any success now is from piggy backing off of an already semi-successful political party that you are obviously trying to co-opt for your own ends. You were busy voting Labour and trying to reform the left all the while UKIP and its members were struggling to build what it has. Now that it has some manner of success you're jumping ship and co-opting it even going so far as to bring personal beef up on an official party line, in this case, Twitter. This is unprofessional in the extreme/

You are not a politician, you are not smart enough to be one, not educated enough to be one and are generally ill fitted to the position in every possible way. you get excited about "press conferences" with the media you constantly complain about and seem to work under some delusion that they actually care what you have to say rather than the reality that they are just going to use you to smear UKIP with your "white nigger" comments, gay porn spam and "wouldn't even rape you" bullshit.

Picking this fight with Jim was foolish beyond description because you have not one single legitimate point to make. Asserting someone is engaging in child grooming is laughable. Asserting that because someone has an illness that somehow means they cannot take a few hours a week to put towards making videos on youtube is also laughable.

And now you silence your chat and begin to moderate comments because you cannot handle the fact that you picked a stupid fight because your ego won't let you do otherwise.

Congrats. You have become everything you once stood against. Enjoy your "career" in politics. I'm sure it will be just as illuminating to the world as the Hindenburg.

Found the comment before it was deleted manually by Carl

 

[oddish]

IDK if this was posted here, y'all probably missed it, but in the part of this killstream from a few days ago near the end, where Ralph is talking about that Milo and Sargon stream, he tells a story he never told before about when he met them both in London that day and Sargon was discussing with Milo at a restaurant about whether or not he should cheat on his wife.

I am not going to look for a timestamp for this.

 

[HTL5N]

Apologies for the late reply, had to go out for a bit.

The moment you get paid for trolling people, it ceases to become shitposting, because now money is a potential motivator behind what content you produces, who you troll to produce it..etc.

I could see that as a potential problem, but Jim has actually shown himself to be pretty restrained, remember when /cow/ almost drove Vee to complete insanity and he basically saved him? Until Jim starts acting the way Maddox does, I'm perfectly fine letting rich idiots throw money his was if it makes me laugh.