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They really need to start relentlessly complaining about this shit, because it's obviously against the rule to brigade other subreddits with frivolous false complaints and harass their moderators.
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They really need to start relentlessly complaining about this shit, because it's obviously against the rule to brigade other subreddits with frivolous false complaints and harass their moderators.
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I can't really put it into words as to why, but for some reason the running program Couch to 5k, which has a subreddit, really annoys me. I think it just serves as a clear example of what reddit is like. Most online communities dedicated to beginner fitness would be textposts based on variations of the program they are doing, their experiences, advice, and logs.
Not on reddit. What do they do there? Well, they just post selfies.
'Oh but thats just one stupid person' you say. No. It is every single post on that subreddit.
Like I said this really annoys me. I guess it has something to do with being annoyed at their constant need for validation 'wow u ran on and off for 20 minutes, AND you are cute/ U still have a sense of humour cuz you are doing a funny face!!! epic!'.
Not on reddit. What do they do there? Well, they just post selfies.
'Oh but thats just one stupid person' you say. No. It is every single post on that subreddit.
Like I said this really annoys me. I guess it has something to do with being annoyed at their constant need for validation 'wow u ran on and off for 20 minutes, AND you are cute/ U still have a sense of humour cuz you are doing a funny face!!! epic!'.
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Was interesting watch the crossfit sub devolve similarly, from informative, to one year updates, to six months, to FRST CLASS, to “Signed up for my first class”, to “thinking of signing up”
As subreddits grow, they invariably end up this way because of how the algorithms work and the toxic effect of post scoring. It’s my only gripe with KF, that we have the same scoring systems that have proven to create the very communities we observe.
As subreddits grow, they invariably end up this way because of how the algorithms work and the toxic effect of post scoring. It’s my only gripe with KF, that we have the same scoring systems that have proven to create the very communities we observe.
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In the mind of these people, merely the existence is literally triggering. They have to be banned off every social media platform.
It's what other social media sites are like to be fair. People will seek out validation via all means possible, it's the reason that Facebook doesn't have a dislike button or why the likes on Twitter are styled as hearts now.
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Reddit algorithm sorts posts and comments based on their score. Higher rated posts are objectively more visible and snowball into much higher ratings from there. Lower rated posts are outright hidden from view.
KF ratings are purely cosmetic and do not influence the prominence or visibility of your posts in any way. It’s all last bump order for thread lists and chronological for threads. Getting a million dumb ratings won’t inherently hide your posts.
Boss Bass
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Completely agree, with the caveat that we do have a global score, which gameifies compliance.
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How to properly use Reddit:
- Memes. Reddit has some pretty great meme subs.
- Multimedia. The Subreddits talking about movies, tv shows, comics etc. can be fun, even the subs about shows you personally don’t like. Certainly more than I can say for our Multimedia general.
- Stay the fuck away from politics, lgbt and news.
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In that case, aimfor contrarianism. strive to get :dumb: ratings instead. Be the change you wanna see in the world.
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I don't remember hearing about vasectomies being that troublesome to recover from. Friend that had it done just needed to take it easy for a couple days, no heavy lifting, and keep an ice pack handy.
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Not really super dramatic or anything, but I laughed pretty hard at this post title because it's spot-on and the linked thread is pure Reddit.
The permanent children of /r/witchcraft just straight-up admit that they buy items for their sacred alters at the fucking craft store
From the linked thread:
The permanent children of /r/witchcraft just straight-up admit that they buy items for their sacred alters at the fucking craft store
From the linked thread:
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The trend of making every website blinding sanitized white like the institute from fallout 4 is not only shit but about five years out of date so of fucking course Reddit is embracing it with their site redesign.
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Roll20 is a virtual tabletop site for nerds to play D&D and other RPGs, it handles displaying maps and rolling dice and crap. It's got pretty wide exposure because it has a free barebones tier while most competing products cost money. It also has a subreddit!
Enter reddit user ApostleO. He posted a list of criticisms on the subreddit. The post is here, but is pretty boring: https://archive.is/4oMnL It's a standard list of complaints that people would have about any program, little issues with usability and bugs.
Dude then was banned. He hadn't said anything at all controversial, and the ban notice claimed that he had been banned before under a different account and was being re-banned. Apparently another account, apostleoftruth, had been stirring shit in the past, and the mods believed that apostleo was the same user. He appealed the ban and denied that he was the same person.
In the meantime, it turns out that the /roll20 moderators were all employees of Roll20. In fact, NolanT, the subreddit admin, is Nolan T. Jones, one of the founders of the company. He replied to the ban appeal with, "Too similar a posting style; not taking the risk on coincidence. Don't have a way to check IP here on reddit, so we'll be erring on the side of caution." And proceeded to not reply further. ApostleO decided to look up the post that got apostleoftruth banned, and found that it too was a fairly mild criticism of the company. He wrote emails to Roll20 to complain about his treatment, threatening to cancel his subscription to their service over it.
Their reply was that they had escalated the issue to the Reddit admins to see if his IP matched the other user's, but that they were "concerned" about his complaints, so wouldn't be unbanning him regardless.
Guy goes off, posts everything on the /dnd subreddit: https://archive.fo/dbhli
His story gained some traction, enough that NolanT, who again is a founder of the company, decided to post about it on /roll20, preserved here: https://archive.fo/jlsLc
Nolan smeared his own customer, extensively, characterizing a pretty valid complaint about being banned without a good reason in the worst possible light. At present, his post is at -51877 points, making it the second worst downvoted comment on Reddit, after EA's "Everything is fine" comment about Battlefront 2.
The subreddit revolted. Roll20's employees were deleting threads constantly for hours, but while they were doing so, NolanT's cursed comment was spreading further and further and racking up more downvotes. Eventually he apologized (to the subreddit, not to the user) and all of the moderators were demodded, with an entirely new mod team stepping in who weren't the company's employees.
This is already a dumpster fire and a sterling example of how not to run a company's PR. But my friends, we aren't done. Noooooooo. There's another golden nail in this coffin, because after all this shit went down, one of the bigger RPG streamers came out on YouTube with this video:
For people who don't want to take the time to watch, here's the relevant quote:
"And we had reached out to various sponsors, people we wanted to be involved, we wanted to use their products and show them to our audiences. So we reached out for a digital platform to Roll20. The response we got was, "We don't need another five white guys." It was baffling. Really, this was from Nolan T, the head person of Roll20."
Two other youtubers have posted saying that they were at the meeting and support the claim that this occurred. Apparently longer statements are forthcoming, I'll update the OP if they do.
I don't think I've seen a company implode quite this hard and fast in a looooong time. Meanwhile, in /dnd a content creator for Roll20 is offering to give free copies of his map packs to any customer who had bought it for Roll20 and is canceling their account. Other virtual tabletops aren't wasting any time courting people abandoning ship, either. It's going to be fascinating to see just how much damage this one guy has done to his company in one fell swoop.
Enter reddit user ApostleO. He posted a list of criticisms on the subreddit. The post is here, but is pretty boring: https://archive.is/4oMnL It's a standard list of complaints that people would have about any program, little issues with usability and bugs.
Dude then was banned. He hadn't said anything at all controversial, and the ban notice claimed that he had been banned before under a different account and was being re-banned. Apparently another account, apostleoftruth, had been stirring shit in the past, and the mods believed that apostleo was the same user. He appealed the ban and denied that he was the same person.
In the meantime, it turns out that the /roll20 moderators were all employees of Roll20. In fact, NolanT, the subreddit admin, is Nolan T. Jones, one of the founders of the company. He replied to the ban appeal with, "Too similar a posting style; not taking the risk on coincidence. Don't have a way to check IP here on reddit, so we'll be erring on the side of caution." And proceeded to not reply further. ApostleO decided to look up the post that got apostleoftruth banned, and found that it too was a fairly mild criticism of the company. He wrote emails to Roll20 to complain about his treatment, threatening to cancel his subscription to their service over it.
Their reply was that they had escalated the issue to the Reddit admins to see if his IP matched the other user's, but that they were "concerned" about his complaints, so wouldn't be unbanning him regardless.
Guy goes off, posts everything on the /dnd subreddit: https://archive.fo/dbhli
His story gained some traction, enough that NolanT, who again is a founder of the company, decided to post about it on /roll20, preserved here: https://archive.fo/jlsLc
From Roll20's perspective, a summary of what occurred:
A user with a similar name to a prior repeat offender came into a thread titled "Is criticism of Roll20 allowed here?" with a ready to copy/paste 1,400 word list of things they dislike about our platform. Among the forty-some other comments in the thread (none of which resulted in bans), this stuck out due to intensity and similarity to a previous poster who had been rather personal in attacking staff. Erring on the side of caution, we issued a ban from the subreddit for probable ban evasion two days ago (Sunday).
The user then messaged mods stating innocence, so we did go ahead and message reddit admins. When the user did not receive Monday morning, they began threats-- he would become an "active detractor on social media," and an email with all bold: "If the ban is not lifted, and I do not receive an apology from NolanT, by tomorrow morning, I am cancelling my Roll20 account, and I will be sure to tell this story on every social media platform I can. Whenever virtual tabletops come up in conversation, you can be assured that I will speak my mind about Roll20 and your abysmal customer service."
Two hours ago we got the response from reddit admins that the accounts do not show an IP match. And for this unfortunate and frustrating coincidence, I'm sorry. We never banned the user from using our site or our onsite forums-- they made the decision to delete their own account. I stand with my account administration staff and our decision to maintain a subreddit ban due to the level of this escalation.
At Roll20 we have a lot of moderation happening with poor player-on-player or Game Master/player interactions. Something we've decided is that we are not Twitter, attempting to capitalize off the most amount of conflict that can be harvested for clicks. We want users who can get along with each other. When someone's response to a ban from an ancillary forum is essentially, "I will spend enormous effort attempting to burn down the store," we know-- from experience-- that they'll do the same thing to other users they dislike, and we'll be left cleaning up the mess and with a poor user interactions. While we aren't pleased to make the top of subreddits for a reason like this, we know this is a better long term decision.
Critics of Roll20 and our interface are something we value and welcome. Every job interview I've been a part of for bringing on new staff has asked for candidates to describe something that frustrates them or that they dislike about our ecosystem-- and every candidate I've ever asked has a passionate response. There's lots more work to do on our platform, and our staff continues to relish the chance to do so and get community input to help. What we do not need are folks who make that process a hostage situation. We do not need users who feel a need to verbally threaten the livelihoods of staff, and eat our work hours with bile. We're comfortable not being the platform for those sorts of users-- and remain enthusiastic about being the best virtual tabletop on the market for those who want to be part of our community.
-Nolan T. Jones, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Roll20
A user with a similar name to a prior repeat offender came into a thread titled "Is criticism of Roll20 allowed here?" with a ready to copy/paste 1,400 word list of things they dislike about our platform. Among the forty-some other comments in the thread (none of which resulted in bans), this stuck out due to intensity and similarity to a previous poster who had been rather personal in attacking staff. Erring on the side of caution, we issued a ban from the subreddit for probable ban evasion two days ago (Sunday).
The user then messaged mods stating innocence, so we did go ahead and message reddit admins. When the user did not receive Monday morning, they began threats-- he would become an "active detractor on social media," and an email with all bold: "If the ban is not lifted, and I do not receive an apology from NolanT, by tomorrow morning, I am cancelling my Roll20 account, and I will be sure to tell this story on every social media platform I can. Whenever virtual tabletops come up in conversation, you can be assured that I will speak my mind about Roll20 and your abysmal customer service."
Two hours ago we got the response from reddit admins that the accounts do not show an IP match. And for this unfortunate and frustrating coincidence, I'm sorry. We never banned the user from using our site or our onsite forums-- they made the decision to delete their own account. I stand with my account administration staff and our decision to maintain a subreddit ban due to the level of this escalation.
At Roll20 we have a lot of moderation happening with poor player-on-player or Game Master/player interactions. Something we've decided is that we are not Twitter, attempting to capitalize off the most amount of conflict that can be harvested for clicks. We want users who can get along with each other. When someone's response to a ban from an ancillary forum is essentially, "I will spend enormous effort attempting to burn down the store," we know-- from experience-- that they'll do the same thing to other users they dislike, and we'll be left cleaning up the mess and with a poor user interactions. While we aren't pleased to make the top of subreddits for a reason like this, we know this is a better long term decision.
Critics of Roll20 and our interface are something we value and welcome. Every job interview I've been a part of for bringing on new staff has asked for candidates to describe something that frustrates them or that they dislike about our ecosystem-- and every candidate I've ever asked has a passionate response. There's lots more work to do on our platform, and our staff continues to relish the chance to do so and get community input to help. What we do not need are folks who make that process a hostage situation. We do not need users who feel a need to verbally threaten the livelihoods of staff, and eat our work hours with bile. We're comfortable not being the platform for those sorts of users-- and remain enthusiastic about being the best virtual tabletop on the market for those who want to be part of our community.
-Nolan T. Jones, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Roll20
Nolan smeared his own customer, extensively, characterizing a pretty valid complaint about being banned without a good reason in the worst possible light. At present, his post is at -51877 points, making it the second worst downvoted comment on Reddit, after EA's "Everything is fine" comment about Battlefront 2.
The subreddit revolted. Roll20's employees were deleting threads constantly for hours, but while they were doing so, NolanT's cursed comment was spreading further and further and racking up more downvotes. Eventually he apologized (to the subreddit, not to the user) and all of the moderators were demodded, with an entirely new mod team stepping in who weren't the company's employees.
This is already a dumpster fire and a sterling example of how not to run a company's PR. But my friends, we aren't done. Noooooooo. There's another golden nail in this coffin, because after all this shit went down, one of the bigger RPG streamers came out on YouTube with this video:
For people who don't want to take the time to watch, here's the relevant quote:
"And we had reached out to various sponsors, people we wanted to be involved, we wanted to use their products and show them to our audiences. So we reached out for a digital platform to Roll20. The response we got was, "We don't need another five white guys." It was baffling. Really, this was from Nolan T, the head person of Roll20."
Two other youtubers have posted saying that they were at the meeting and support the claim that this occurred. Apparently longer statements are forthcoming, I'll update the OP if they do.
I don't think I've seen a company implode quite this hard and fast in a looooong time. Meanwhile, in /dnd a content creator for Roll20 is offering to give free copies of his map packs to any customer who had bought it for Roll20 and is canceling their account. Other virtual tabletops aren't wasting any time courting people abandoning ship, either. It's going to be fascinating to see just how much damage this one guy has done to his company in one fell swoop.
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I used Roll20 in the past. It was okay at best. I think we still had to use a separate program for voice chat.
But seriously, how does such an insignificant nothing company get so big headed? I think these guys chose Wisdom as a dump stat.
But seriously, how does such an insignificant nothing company get so big headed? I think these guys chose Wisdom as a dump stat.
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When you nat 1 a speech check and then nat 1 the recovery attempt.
robobobo
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People are already memeing this Nolan guy's picture.
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I'll be honest, none of it really clicked until here. What were they doing? Why were they so hostile and defensive? What was this apparent dislike of their own userbase stemming from?
And then the "oh, they're that type" moment.
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The script is so predictable. When is the clumsy pivot to screaming about Nazis and racists?