Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

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Who is the unfunny Amerifat that came up with Carl being an Applebee's waiter? This might come as a surprise to the ignorant fatty, but Applebee's is not in the UK, so it has no effect on Sargon, you dumb fat fuck.
If you had said Nando's waiter, it would at least have been geographically accurate, and might have done some damage.
 
I'd feel bad for him. Because the only people seriously able to dox him have to be close friends/family members.
I dont' feel bad for people who put everything about themselves out there. But Jim is oldschool and tries to get judged about the things he says and not who is IRL. Also he is able to differentiate between online and real-life, which is rare nowadays.
To each his own opinion, though I disagree with it. How would you say Jim separates online from real life, because I would argue his real life has become online?
 
So when's the clip of Ben Kenobi with a youtube icon over his face telling Sargon/Anikin that he was chosen one while Sargon Anikin yells "I hate you!" at a Mister Metokur in the distance?
 
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Who is the unfunny Amerifat that came up with Carl being an Applebee's waiter? This might come as a surprise to the ignorant fatty, but Applebee's is not in the UK, so it has no effect on Sargon, you dumb fat fuck.
If you had said Nando's waiter, it would at least have been geographically accurate, and might have done some damage.

Speaking of failed insults why did Carl accuse Jim of grooming? Jim has a well know trigger of going nuts when he suspects someone of paedophilia so that's the basis of it but Carl was right to point out Jim's fans are all nihilistic trolls and are a bit childish (even if he was wrong that they were literal children, something Jim could easily and did easily refute with a screenshot of his Youtube metrics).

Given all that what is more likely

1) Jim is BTFO
2) Jim's edgelord fanclub all post 'Groom me daddy' in the chat to TRR and turn it into a meme.

It's like accusing Jim of faking his illness and then refusing to talk about it. It's already a meme Jim has 'the canceraids', i.e. an unspecified but nasty condition. It's also a meme that Jim is obsessive about not revealing personal details.

Neither of these had any chance of being a knock out blow, and Carl should have known this. I mean if you're going to take a shot, wouldn't it have been better to have one that did some real damage?
 
Speaking of failed insults why did Carl accuse Jim of grooming? Jim has a well know trigger of going nuts when he suspects someone of paedophilia so that's the basis of it but Carl was right to point out Jim's fans are all nihilistic trolls and are a bit childish (even if he was wrong that they were literal children, something Jim could easily and did easily refute with a screenshot of his Youtube metrics).

Given all that what is more likely

1) Jim is BTFO
2) Jim's edgelord fanclub all post 'Groom me daddy' in the chat to TRR and turn it into a meme.

It's like accusing Jim of faking his illness and then refusing to talk about it. It's already a meme Jim has 'the canceraids', i.e. an unspecified but nasty condition. It's also a meme that Jim is obsessive about not revealing personal details.

Neither of these had any chance of being a knock out blow, and Carl should have known this. I mean if you're going to take a shot, wouldn't it have been better to have one that did some real damage?
I am saddened that Carl didn't use the stuff on ED.
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To each his own opinion, though I disagree with it. How would you say Jim separates online from real life, because I would argue his real life has become online?

Pretty much what Goku said:

Simply because we know nothing about his real life.

If his RL gets dragged into the online scene, it wont be because he made a mistake/released infos deliberately but because somebody he knows leaked it.
He isn't talking about his real life so we know nothing about it. It totally separated from his online persona.
 
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I'm probably :late: af, but my god the Twitter memes are gold.

"Jim preparing his army for the assault on the soygoy stream"

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"When I was a kid @MisterAntiBully abducted me promising to take me to neverland but instead he just forced me to become an evil spewing troll so he could monetized me. This was the avatar he used."

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Batten's done a far better job at rebuilding UKIP's coffeurs than was honestly expected by a lot of people. Batten himself is what is termed a "Faragist" which is the fusing of the controlled immigration and economic liberalisation message which played shockingly well in what is nominally Labour's heartlands as people are still sat in those places unemployed after 20-30 years of depravation from the collapse of older industries (which co-incidentally also coincided with our membership of the EEC/EU and cheaper european imports).

The interesting thing has been this odd dive off into the woods with the increasing use of young libertarian youtubers as a means of connecting with the youth. The end result has been semi-lacklustre but he managed to stave off UKIP's bankruptcy by speaking plainly and honestly about the situation they were in.

Calling him a Faragist is a bit unfair because he's spoken out in an unambiguous way about grooming gangs. He's spoken at rallies to free Tommy. He's denounced Islam publicly. Those last two are something Farage wouldn't have dared do.

It's not like he's gone full on BNP, but he's definitely moved the party to the right. Of course he's also pro online free speech. In which case embracing people like Tommy and the Youtubers makes a certain amount of sense.

I reckon what winds up Brits isn't so much immigration but the stifling political repression which is being put in place that silences people who point out the downsides of immigration. All you're allowed to do is to repeat thought terminating cliches like 'diversity is our strength'. You're definitely not supposed to point to grooming gangs, crime and terrorism as the downsides to an absolutely bonkers policy that seems to let in the wrong people and largely keep the right people - immigrants from first world countries wanting to work or run a business or blonde Canadian journalists - out.

People I talk to back in the UK are pissed about this. Really pissed. And May backing down to the EU to put the UK into a sort of permanent Norway status isn't helping.

Battenism is aimed at those sort of people. I mean the media are going to call UKIP Nazis anyway even with someone like Farage in charge who avoids the third rail issues, why continue to parrot their nonsense in the hope that they'll do it a bit less frequently?
 
UKIP is desperate not to be seen as racist, and has a long history of throwing its own members under the bus if they shoot their mouths off. They will disavow Sargon as soon as the press picks up on his antics. Probably more for the "white niggers" and "gas kikes" comments than the Jim thing.

UKIP history lesson for those not familiar with UK politics:

UKIP started in the late 1990s as a single-issue party devoted to achieving Brexit, after the previous such party (The Referendum Party) imploded in 1998 after its leader died. As such, it had quite the diverse membership base, consisting of:

1 - Libertarians/Thatcherites who thought the EU was too Socialist
2 - Racists who thought the EU was too full of Turks and Muslims and they'd come here and terk er jerbs
3 - Old-school Lefties who thought the EU wasn't socialist enough

The lefties departed early on, and the 2000s were a time of bitter civil war within UKIP between the Libertarian wing (mostly consisting of the party's youth movement) and the anti-immigrant wing (mostly consisting of Boomers) over the immigration issue. The Libertarians wanted free movement of labour, and the anti-immigrants wanted protectionism. When Farage became leader, this co-incided with the spectacular implosion of the UK's biggest far-right party, the BNP, after their leader was invited onto Question Time (high-profile BBC current affairs show) in 2009 and made an absolute ass of himself. Farage saw the opportunity to steal the BNP's voter base as well as tempt anti-immigrant voters from the mainstream parties who were put off by the BNP's image as a bunch of skinhead thugs. Farage (who isn't really anti-immigrant in his personal beliefs and certainly not racist) decided that it was time to decisively position UKIP as an anti-immigrant party, and did so - the libertarian wing had decisively lost UKIP's civil war and their youth leader (along with many of their younger members) left as a result.

Farage's strategy, and a very successful one, was to try to de-toxify the anti-immigrant movement and try to portray it as not racist - purely an economic and social issue. He succeeded in hijacking the Brexit referendum into some kind of vote about immigration, even though that's about the 10th most important issue relating to Britain's relationship with the EU. In order for this strategy to work, UKIP must not only expel members who are blatant racists (and they had a fair few), but also make a big public song-and-dance about doing so in order to keep their image clean.

Since Farage has left as leader (though he's still the spiritual figurehead), the libertarian wing sees an opportunity to seize control of UKIP back - that's the movement Sargon has become part of. So UKIP's anti-immigrant leadership will have very low tolerance of Sargon's shit, because:

1 - They want to make a big public deal of throwing racists out of the party
2 - Sargon represents the opposing side in UKIP's ongoing civil war.

Sargon is fucked.

It doesen't help that he keeps throwing UKIP under the bus to make himself look good.

Did you see the tl; dr response video? He spent like 2 straight minutes shit talking UKIP and politicans to put himself on a pedestal.
 
Calling him a Faragist is a bit unfair because he's spoken out in an unambiguous way about grooming gangs. He's spoken at rallies to free Tommy. He's denounced Islam publicly. Those last two are something Farage wouldn't have dared do.

It's not like he's gone full on BNP, but he's definitely moved the party to the right. Of course he's also pro online free speech. In which case embracing people like Tommy and the Youtubers makes a certain amount of sense.

I reckon what winds up Brits isn't so much immigration but the stifling political repression which is being put in place that silences people who point out the downsides of immigration. All you're allowed to do is to repeat thought terminating cliches like 'diversity is our strength'. You're definitely not supposed to point to grooming gangs, crime and terrorism as the downsides to an absolutely bonkers policy that seems to let in the wrong people and largely keep the right people - immigrants from first world countries wanting to work or run a business or blonde Canadian journalists - out.

People I talk to back in the UK are pissed about this. Really pissed. And May backing down to the EU to put the UK into a sort of permanent Norway status isn't helping.

Battenism is aimed at those sort of people. I mean the media are going to call UKIP Nazis anyway even with someone like Farage in charge who avoids the third rail issues, why continue to parrot their nonsense in the hope that they'll do it a bit less frequently?

Batten's a very odd bod, quite frankly. He started off in the Stephen Wolfe/Red UKIP faction but like Wolfe remained loyal to Farage, this is what I predominantly mean by him being a "Faragist" he wasn't like Nuttal (who clearly went crazy as UKIP's polling collapsed) or Anne Marie Waters who flounced off to found her own party with Blackjack and (Lesbian) hookers. He's stayed fairly true to matters of UKIP and their polling has quietly improved. Wether or not this can translate into the same pressure that Farage was able to bring to bare has yet to be seen. Batten is clumsy and obviously not as interesting to place in front of a camera as Farage was and still is.

His flirtation with youtube personalities, and weak ones like Carl though, show an easily lampoonable way that could let the left whinge broadcasters devour him whole. Even Farage has been noted some disquet at embracing figures like Dankula etc.
 
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It doesen't help that he keeps throwing UKIP under the bus to make himself look good.

Did you see the tl; dr response video? He spent like 2 straight minutes shit talking UKIP and politicans to put himself on a pedestal.

I'm gonna laugh when the press release comes out from UKIP.

"We have discovered that there has been misuse of an official UKIP Twitter account by one of our members. This Twitter account has been used to post personal attacks and unfounded accusations of sexual assault against others, and we have also discovered that this individual has made racist, derogatory, and frankly disgusting comments online. For this reason, we have elected to expel Carl Benjamin from our party. We disavow all his statements."
 
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I'm gonna laugh when the press release comes out from UKIP.

"We have discovered that there has been misuse of an official UKIP Twitter account by one of our members. This Twitter account has been used to post personal attacks and unfounded accusations of sexual assault against others, and we have also discovered that this individual has made racist, derogatory, and frankly disgusting comments online. For this reason, we have elected to expel Carl Benjamin from our party. We disavow all his statements."

I know people like to joke and fantasise about hillarious scenarios, but I genuinely think that what he did might actually get him expelled.

Engaging in petty drama is one thing that's bad enough, accusing people of child grooming on an official account is an entirely other.

Sargon doesen't take UKIP seriously, he keeps treating it as if it's below him and he's some sort of patron saint. The way he trash talks it and treats is as if he thinks it's just another shitty rationalist/liberalist party he created yesterday on 4chan instead of a serious political institution.
 
His flirtation with youtube personalities, and weak ones like Carl though, show an easily lampoonable way that could let the left whinge broadcasters devour him whole. Even Farage has been noted some disquet at embracing figures like Dankula etc.

I reckon Farage will run against Batten at the next leadership contest. You can see where they disagree here, and it's not just over Youtubers.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...w-ukip-leader-gerard-batten-hard-right-stance

Farage’s comments, seen by the Guardian, came in an address to a dinner of Ukip activists in Lancashire this month. He said the party was right to oppose Islamic extremism. “But if dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose,” he said.

“We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

Farage added in an apparent criticism of Batten: “I think this gets to the heart of not just the positioning of a political party, but of judgment too. And judgment really, really matters. Tommy Robinson is seen to be a hero by many. But actually, what the bloody hell was he doing outside the court?”

If Farage gets back in Sargon and co will get the boot. Mind you I'm not sure having a bunch of cringy e-celebs is all that bad for a party. After all the Conservatives have Guido Fawkes and Labour have the Momentum twitter warriors like Mark Zarb-Cousin who is hardly a stranger to gaffes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Matt-Zarb-Cousins-ill-judged-tweet-Queen.html

I think you just need to know when to keep quiet about their antics and when to disavow.
 
Speaking of failed insults why did Carl accuse Jim of grooming? Jim has a well know trigger of going nuts when he suspects someone of paedophilia so that's the basis of it but Carl was right to point out Jim's fans are all nihilistic trolls and are a bit childish (even if he was wrong that they were literal children, something Jim could easily and did easily refute with a screenshot of his Youtube metrics).

Given all that what is more likely

1) Jim is BTFO
2) Jim's edgelord fanclub all post 'Groom me daddy' in the chat to TRR and turn it into a meme.

It's like accusing Jim of faking his illness and then refusing to talk about it. It's already a meme Jim has 'the canceraids', i.e. an unspecified but nasty condition. It's also a meme that Jim is obsessive about not revealing personal details.

Neither of these had any chance of being a knock out blow, and Carl should have known this. I mean if you're going to take a shot, wouldn't it have been better to have one that did some real damage?
I mean, Carl is a fucking idiot, should he have really known it? I'm pretty sure with all his smug laughing on the stream (and his shit eating grin during the part where his audio was muted) that he thought he was making the kill shot. Brilliant idea though, take someone who's been caught having sex with a woman on stream and claim that he's actually a secret pedophile groomer. Inb4 someone makes a Chad Metokur vs Virgin Sargon image.
 
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