Trashfire Internet Bloodsports Aftermath - The neverending Mexican drama of wannabe e-celebs and their detractors

[Spectre_06]

For the purposes of a lawsuit, what matters is that he can demonstrate intent for a person to harm or engage in offensive contact, or that contact to have happened, and that there are some damages he incurred as a result (like medical expenses). That can be proven by the video evidence of his battery and the guys statements showing he intended to attack someone anti sjw. As far as I can tell, there's no tort in Indiana that says you can sue for inciting people to contact your place of business stating truthful actions (though I may be wrong) and the business fires you, and that's assuming you can prove incitement on quartering's part.

Connecticut law actually states that this is a class C misdemeanor (Harassment in the second degree), and inciting same is conspiracy which would carry the same penalties. Since Matt lives in Connecticut, and the college is in Connecticut, then there's a valid case to be made that Jeremy has violated the law in this regard, especially when he's very emotional and could be wrong on identification of the subject.

Second, there's no video of the battery having happened, as the bar had no cameras outside the establishment, and no one was taping it. The eyewitness statements Jeremy has conflict with what happened wildly, and would likely be torn apart by the defense.

Third, he didn't see a doctor for about six days, so any claim towards medical expenses relating to the atack would be hard to prove. This is why he should have seen a doctor then and there.

 

[soy_king]

Connecticut law actually states that this is a class C misdemeanor (Harassment in the second degree), and inciting same is conspiracy which would carry the same penalties. Since Matt lives in Connecticut, and the college is in Connecticut, then there's a valid case to be made that Jeremy has violated the law in this regard, especially when he's very emotional and could be wrong on identification of the subject.

Second, there's no video of the battery having happened, as the bar had no cameras outside the establishment, and no one was taping it. The eyewitness statements Jeremy has conflict with what happened wildly, and would likely be torn apart by the defense.

Third, he didn't see a doctor for about six days, so any claim towards medical expenses relating to the atack would be hard to prove. This is why he should have seen a doctor then and there.

That tort would apply only if Jeremy were to contact the person himself. It doesn't apply to incitement to harass by a third party of a person's place of business.
It's not as if there wasn't evidence and witnesses of a battery in support of Jeremy, so that doesn't preclude him from taking the guy to trial.
Again, battery only requires harmful or offensive contact, so in theory he doesn't need to prove [EDIT: physical damages] for there to be a case.

 

[Spectre_06]

That tort would apply only if Jeremy were to contact the person himself. It doesn't apply to incitement to harass by a third party of a person's place of business.
It's not as if there wasn't evidence and witnesses of a battery in support of Jeremy, so that doesn't preclude him from taking the guy to trial.
Again, battery only requires harmful or offensive contact, so in theory he doesn't need to prove [EDIT: physical damages] for there to be a case.

1.) Not true. By telling his followers and supporters to "make your voice heard" or something to that effect, and putting the guy's information out there he's encouraging them to bombard the college with phone calls, to the point theoretically that routine business could be impacted. Further, the statute doesn't say the specific individual must be contacted, only that a person must be contacted in such a way as to "annoy", which I think hours of phone calls might do, and lead to the college firing him just to end it.

2.) The odds of him being extradited for a misdemeanor (I think Battery is Class B in Indiana) is remote. Since both perp and victim were from outside the state, Indianapolis police had no real need to pursue the case, especially in a situation where there's no actual damage done (according to Jeremy, he didn't need to see a doctor because police "cleared" him, contextually meaning medically). So criminal charges are unlikely in the matter. As for civil, he can absolutely sue, but the truth is that he's not likely to see much in terms of a payout. Having not seen a doctor the day-of, having launched a targeted harassment campaign that he only stopped because people told him he was acting like an SJW and there could be consequences to his actions, and encouraging his followers to contact his place(s) of employment with the intention of getting the guy fired, any civil action is likely to backfire. But Jeremy doesn't care, because he's not spending his own money.

 

[soy_king]

1.) Not true. By telling his followers and supporters to "make your voice heard" or something to that effect, and putting the guy's information out there he's encouraging them to bombard the college with phone calls, to the point theoretically that routine business could be impacted. Further, the statute doesn't say the specific individual must be contacted, only that a person must be contacted in such a way as to "annoy", which I think hours of phone calls might do, and lead to the college firing him just to end it.

2.) The odds of him being extradited for a misdemeanor (I think Battery is Class B in Indiana) is remote. Since both perp and victim were from outside the state, Indianapolis police had no real need to pursue the case, especially in a situation where there's no actual damage done (according to Jeremy, he didn't need to see a doctor because police "cleared" him, contextually meaning medically). So criminal charges are unlikely in the matter. As for civil, he can absolutely sue, but the truth is that he's not likely to see much in terms of a payout. Having not seen a doctor the day-of, having launched a targeted harassment campaign that he only stopped because people told him he was acting like an SJW and there could be consequences to his actions, and encouraging his followers to contact his place(s) of employment with the intention of getting the guy fired, any civil action is likely to backfire. But Jeremy doesn't care, because he's not spending his own money.

1. Again, the statute you state mentions at most the offending party contacting a third party by certain lines of communication for purposes of harassing another person. Nowhere does it mention someone inciting individuals to act in his stead. The laws have yet to be decided by sjws where a person is responsible for the actions of other people.
2. Battery in a civil case doesnt require physical damages, which as you state he can bring in Indiana. We also have the element of intent, where the guy made it known his intention to physically assault anti sjws at said venue. And finally there is some eyewitness testimony that the harmful or offensive contact took place (there might be more, I don't know or care). With all that in mind, he can sue. Whether he can win is another matter, but it seems that your severe antipathy to quartering's is preventing you from acknowledging that he has a case.

He might be acting like an SJW, but it's also apparent that your insistence that he's done something wrong with nothing more than statements taken out of context and implied incitement is a pretty SJW thing to do.

 

[Spectre_06]

Incitement falls under conspiracy in every jurisdiction I know of, is what I was getting at.

 

[MidUSA]

OpticDecay and Broski are both implicated in a cancer charity stream for Broski in which they raised God knows how much (no one seems to be able to corroborate anything, and the numbers we've gotten have conflicted as well), claimed they raised everything they needed in two hours and spent 22 hours raising more money to buy Broski a gaming PC rather than banking it should the cancer relapse (because he claims non-Hodgkin Lymphoma).

It has since come out that Broski has done two other instances of somethign similar, purchasing a big screen television around the time of his first begging stream in April, and failing to raise money for his mother's supposed cancer via GoFundMe. Queen of Bantz, Joachim, UAJ, Arianna (an orbiter), and several others attempted to shut down criticism of this by trying to deflect, leading to a shitty-looking "surgery wound" picture taken on a Nokia Potato (any subsequent picture the scar is covered) that made it look like he had MRSA or sepsis (thirteen days out and it was horribly discolored and inflamed, despite antibiotics.) assuming it was real,

I remember watching Cognitive thought going after them about this.
So they finally did show a photo of the "surgery wound" eh.

Are people still looking for proof, or did the whole thing die down?

 

[Spectre_06]

I remember watching Cognitive thought going after them about this.
So they finally did show a photo of the "surgery wound" eh.

Are people still looking for proof, or did the whole thing die down?

This is the "wound" thirteen days after it happened.

 

[soy_king]

Incitement falls under conspiracy in every jurisdiction I know of, is what I was getting at.

I don't see that. Conspiracy requires two or more people to agree to conduct an illegal act, and assuming he did call for people to contact the university, that in and of itself isn't illegal since he would presumably tell them to state an allegation against their employee to the university.

 

[Superman93]

TonkaShit has decided to start an internet slap fight with Mr.Mediocre https://twitter.com/Tonkasaw lets watch and laugh.

 

[HTL5N]

TonkaShit has decided to start an internet slap fight with Mr.Mediocre https://twitter.com/Tonkasaw lets watch and laugh.

Beat me too it

Tonka accidentally confirms his own dox

 

[DiceLord]

Beat me too it

Tonka accidentally confirms his own dox

There may be hope of his thread seeing the light of day yet.

 

[HTL5N]

There may be hope of his thread seeing the light of day yet.

I remember all of the drama on /cow/ over whether or not his dox was real, they must be laughing their asses off now

 

[Spectre_06]

Beat me too it

Tonka accidentally confirms his own dox

Oh, I'd been saying for a while he confirmed it was him, so continuing this charade is pointless on his part. And apparently now, Metokur using public videos HE DID is doxxing him. Let that sink in.

Anything to make it so other people are guilty of doxxing, and he and his friends aren't.

Sharing pictures and face reveals? Not doxxing until you're me and share the picture that Joachim sends to me of his alleged CAC, in which case now we add the caveat of "the picture wasn't in the public space" so they can continue to call me a doxxer and look fresh.

Going after family members? Not doxxing. Sure Joachim put out the name and address of a guy's baby sibling, but that wasn't actually doxxing guys because the guy himself didn't live there. And then come full circle and give out Joachim's family's information, and that is totes doxxing guys.

Making up a whole history of who you are? It's doxxing to dispute it. When QoB was claiming he was married to a Marine captain "shredded" by a machine gun nest in the GWOT I was mercilessly hounded by Donga, Joachim, UAJ, etc. about trying to dox a JSOC operator. Low and behold it was all a lie, but there's no apology for perpetuating the lies QoB was saying.

Point is, it's all doxxing because they will narrow down their definition and tailor it specifically to make them look okay, but use a different definition or outright generalize it to make you look like a piece of shit.

 

[Arilea]

https://twitter.com/Tonkasaw/status/1041034252790497281

https://twitter.com/Tonkasaw/status/1041053968405807110

Donka going after some rando on twitter. LMAO And Passive aggressive post about viewer numbers this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2413&v=2h_ai7QCXvw
Donka enters @ around 53:00 "I never said he doxed me. He doxed someone else"
Tommy C is a fag. No wonder Donka hangs around him. They continue to talk about grooming.

 

[MidUSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2413&v=2h_ai7QCXvw
Donka enters @ around 53:00 "I never said he doxed me. He doxed someone else"
Tommy C is a fag. No wonder Donka hangs around him. They continue to talk about grooming.

Can Tonka make up his mind over whether or not his face was shown in Jim's IBS autism-fest stream?
'Feels like he flip-flops on it every other day now

 

[BoomerPhil]

Can Tonka make up his mind over whether or not his face was shown in Jim's IBS autism-fest stream?
'Feels like he flip-flops on it every other day now

Again, this just solidifies why Donga is an epic lolcows. He reacts like Moviebob on his Twitter but excessively gets asshurt and starts a slapfights on a near daily basis. Which is awe-inspiring to watch. He will never back down, never quit and will activately state he is "always right". Fundamentally anyone here could just tweet at Dongasaw the words "You are wrong" and you are 100% expected to get a response in the most aggressive form of "no you" possible that'll escalate quickly by Donga himself to either

A. "FITE ME IRL!!"
Or
B. "BLOCKED YOU COW BOARD USER!!" while talking about you for at least 1 podcast(averages 3-7 hours long a day)


I hope we get a proper Tonka thread. The guy is just insane, listen to how he reacts to some cow user making fun of him on Andywarski's stream.

 

[Arilea]

I did see that stream live and just continued to watch because Warski was loosing his mind.

https://youtu.be/JoRvVgg3FeE

Tonka has this way with words, He plays the semantics game way to much. "I never said it directly, like that. So it's you who is lying.And I'm right about everything. 100 gazillion - 0"- Tonkasaw (probably)

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

i'm gonna draft a tonkasaw OP. pm if you want to contribute @BoomerPhil

 

[Ask Jeeves]

Watching how Tonka has gone from mocking Kraut and hosting daily fuck Kraut streams to "Kraut did nothing wrong" just shows how little Tonka's brain actually engages with the world. He tried to pass it off to Tommy C that other people said Kraut did dox so he just went along with it. How did he not see all the evidence to make his mind up? He's rather dumb enough to not look himself, or he hid his true opinion at the time for money and views.

The stream today is just so transparent. He's doing what Sargon did with "Come to my meet-up Jim and we can discuss it." He's just trying to cheerlead Sargon by implicity asking Jim to dox himself to show up to an internet fight he couldn't even make.

i'm gonna draft a tonkasaw OP. pm if you want to contribute @BoomerPhil

He's had the credentials for a thread a while. Off the top of my head: the Destiny stream he made an ass of himself, how Zoom btfo'd Tonka so hard he DM'd Thomas Ellington saying Warski and Failure are done to him yet a month later was back cozy with them, waiting months like a jilted-ex bitter at Jim for his face being showed which Destiny had already leaked, the internet tough guy routine, there's probably loads if you dig through.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

He's had the credentials for a thread a while. Off the top of my head: the Destiny stream he made an ass of himself, how Zoom btfo'd Tonka so hard he DM'd Thomas Ellington saying Warski and Failure are done to him yet a month later was back cozy with them, waiting months like a jilted-ex bitter at Jim for his face being showed which Destiny had already leaked, the internet tough guy routine, there's probably loads if you dig through.

for a while i was convinced he didnt get often enough beyond ibs drama, which i don't follow closely. being outed as a sperg and being involved with drama in the IBS community is enough to get mentioned here, but not quite enough for a thread all his own.

i agree the destiny thing was telling because it demonstrated his pathological tendency to call for physical violence and it was great how destiny called him out on it. this feature of his personality might make him thread-worthy.

his call to violence yesterday with his autistic plan to set up a skeptic wrestling/brawl match event thing went properly into cow territory i think. it has the potential to seriously alienate his fanbase (look at those likes/dislikes) at best or actually become a real life event on the other, which would honestly be the best thing ever.