Culture Sesame Street writer confirms Bert and Ernie are Gay - Bertstrips officially canon now

https://mashable.com/article/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/?europe=true

The queer fan community have long known that Bert and Ernie were gay Muppets. It's just taken a little bit longer for the rest of the world to catch up.

In an interview with Queerty, one of Sesame Street's original writers, Mark Saltzman, finally confirmed the rumors. According to Saltzman, Bert and Ernie aren't just gay. He thinks of them as a "loving couple."

"I remember one time that a column from The San Francisco Chronicle, a preschooler in the city turned to mom and asked 'are Bert & Ernie lovers?'" Saltzman told Queerty. "And that got passed around, and everyone had their chuckle and went back to it. And I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert & Ernie, they were. I didn’t have any other way to contextualize them. The other thing was, more than one person referred to Arnie [Saltzman's partner at the time] & I as “Bert & Ernie.”

Of course Bert and Ernie are gay. No one wants to hang around their roommate that much, regardless of how good they are at chess. How could Ernie put up with Bert's pigeons if he didn't love him in that way?

Saltzman explained how his own same-sex relationship became a model for Bert & Ernie — even if the rest of the cast wasn't aware of the underlying queer dynamics:

"And Arnie as a film editor—if you thought of Bert with a job in the world, wouldn’t that be perfect? Bert with his paper clips and organization? And I was the jokester. So it was the Bert & Ernie relationship, and I was already with Arnie when I came to Sesame Street. So I don’t think I’d know how else to write them, but as a loving couple. I wrote sketches … Arnie’s OCD would create friction with how chaotic I was. And that’s the Bert & Ernie dynamic," Satlzman said.

Justice, served. Twitter seems to think so too:


Deborah Temkin, Ph.D

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The fact that it’s confirmed that Bert and Ernie are in fact based on a real life couple just makes me smile from ear to ear https://www.queerty.com/exclusive-bert-ernie-couple-finally-answer-20180916 … #lgbtq


Klaudia Amenábar // let a blind actress play Toph@kaludiasays


Bert and Ernie were just confirmed gay and Snuffy was a closeted depressed gay how was this not the #1 trending news story today this is the most important cultural event of our time



Jesse Kelly®

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Bert is the only gay man in history with bad eyebrows.
However, I have more questions for Bert and Ernie: Are they still monogamous after all these years? Do they have to attend couple's therapy to manage Bert's anal retentiveness? Did any of them ever have a thing with Big Bird?

Regardless of their answers, we should all be so happy for their love.

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I wish I lived in a world where people didn't blow a gasket over this shit. Some guy drew inspiration from his marriage when writing for a kid's show when the original guy didn't - who cares? But apparently because these fictional puppets are both men, we have to have a serious argument about whether Mark Saltzman has a gay agenda or Frank Oz has a straight agenda. Maybe the reason that no one noticed the difference in writers for all these years is that it literally doesn't matter.
 
I wish I lived in a world where people didn't blow a gasket over this shit. Some guy drew inspiration from his marriage when writing for a kid's show when the original guy didn't - who cares? But apparently because these fictional puppets are both men, we have to have a serious argument about whether Mark Saltzman has a gay agenda or Frank Oz has a straight agenda. Maybe the reason that no one noticed the difference in writers for all these years is that it literally doesn't matter.
Yeah, big spoiler here maybe, "bullshit you and your roommate do at each other", "bullshit you and your sibling you live with do at each other" and "bullshit you and your spouse do at each other" have a decent amount of crossover. Sticking two of us monkeys in an enclosed space runs into similar issues whether you fuck or not.
 
Well I'm glad the muppets workshop came out and said "No the puppets don't have sex you fucking weirdos".

I might be paraphrasing a little.

To be fair, they pretty mnuch said the same thing in sworn court testimony earlier this year, when they sued the Happy Time Murders people for "No Sesame, All Street" Marketing of that crapfest of a movie.

I wanna think of this whole "controversy" as another control experiment to see who should get preemptively barred from the community parks and venues in their area, based on their social media activity.

You would never think that that oppressive "Chinese Social Media Credit Score" would have legit value... until you find something like this mess.
 
I mean, while I don't disagree with the conceit that this whole thing is silly, homosexuality doesn't JUST mean sex, contrary to what /pol/ would have you believe. When you see a straight couple in this sort of thing do you go "UGH WHY ARE THEY PUTTING A MAN AND A WOMAN FUCKING IN A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM"?

There's plenty to get mad at here without accusing the other side of being stealth-pedophiles.

TBH I'm more annoyed that they're hounding Frank Oz over this.
 
As someone who's bi, it's really encouraging to see how far the LGBT community has made it to where the only thing they're the most outraged by nowadays are fucking puppets

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This is exactly what it's all about. These people don't want organic, grassroots representation, they just want hamfisted, shoehorned, corporatized tokenism (the likes of which Disney and others are more than happy to provide) and they're too self-absorbed and up their own overly gaped asses to figure that out
 
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As someone who's bi, it's really encouraging to see how far the LGBT community has made it to where the only thing they're the most outraged by nowadays are fucking puppets

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This is exactly what it's all about. These people don't want organic, grassroots representation, they just want hamfisted, shoehorned, corporatized tokenism and they're too self-absorbed and up their own overly gaped asses to figure that out

Someone should tell them not to co-opt an already existing franchise that has ties to the growing fourth Reich:
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Welcome to 2018, where gay Muppet representation is more important than the lives of actual gay humans still being snuffed out under Islamic law.
 
I mean, while I don't disagree with the conceit that this whole thing is silly, homosexuality doesn't JUST mean sex, contrary to what /pol/ would have you believe. When you see a straight couple in this sort of thing do you go "UGH WHY ARE THEY PUTTING A MAN AND A WOMAN FUCKING IN A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM"?

There's plenty to get mad at here without accusing the other side of being stealth-pedophiles.

Jenny Nicholoson wrote an article for Playboy, trying to say that there was a double standard, because the Muppets have Kermit and Miss Piggy. It's a bit of word sleight of hand to make you forget for a second that Miss Piggy and Kermit were part of the Muppet Show. And Bert and Ernie were part of Sesame Street. And Sesame Street is for Toddlers, not for general viewing.

Are there adults actually sitting there watching Sesame Street every day, hoping for clues to their slash pairings? These are the people who write articles now?
 
Jenny Nicholoson wrote an article for Playboy, trying to say that there was a double standard, because the Muppets have Kermit and Miss Piggy. It's a bit of word sleight of hand to make you forget for a second that Miss Piggy and Kermit were part of the Muppet Show. And Bert and Ernie were part of Sesame Street. And Sesame Street is for Toddlers, not for general viewing.

Are there adults actually sitting there watching Sesame Street every day, hoping for clues to their slash pairings? These are the people who write articles now?

Oh, I absolutely agree on that front, I'm just a little "eh..." on the idea that the people getting in a tizzy over this are specifically thinking of puppets boning rather than just general "romance".
 
Oh, I absolutely agree on that front, I'm just a little "eh..." on the idea that the people getting in a tizzy over this are specifically thinking of puppets boning rather than just general "romance".

I think people are approaching it with an adult mindset. Sesame Street is for Toddlers and very young children. They have no concept of things between friend or best friend, and grown up, mom and dad are best friends. Talking about being gay is immediately bringing in a sexual element, something that happens past puberty, something that kids don't even conceptualize yet.
 
I think people are approaching it with an adult mindset. Sesame Street is for Toddlers and very young children. They have no concept of things between friend or best friend, and grown up, mom and dad are best friends. Talking about being gay is immediately bringing in a sexual element, something that happens past puberty, something that kids don't even conceptualize yet.
And that's what drives me nuts why people don't realize this.
 
I think people are approaching it with an adult mindset. Sesame Street is for Toddlers and very young children. They have no concept of things between friend or best friend, and grown up, mom and dad are best friends. Talking about being gay is immediately bringing in a sexual element, something that happens past puberty, something that kids don't even conceptualize yet.

I mean, in Sesame Street, there are examples of men and women being in love. Kids are aware that their mommies and daddies love one another. Love is a completely different beast from sex, and while I once again do not disagree that these shrieking SJWs are obnoxious, two men being in love does not automatically indicate sex the same way a man and a woman being in love does not automatically indicate sex.
 
I mean, in Sesame Street, there are examples of men and women being in love. Kids are aware that their mommies and daddies love one another. Love is a completely different beast from sex, and while I once again do not disagree that these shrieking SJWs are obnoxious, two men being in love does not automatically indicate sex the same way a man and a woman being in love does not automatically indicate sex.

Then again, they had Maria and Luis get married, Maria becoming pregnant and having a baby and all the things that go along with it like going to the maternity clinic, due dates, labor and delivery ect. The difference of course is that these were humans and not muppets.
 
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