Zoosadist Zoosadism Megathread - Joshua "Kero the Wolf" Hoffman & Friends.

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I don't know if this tweet has been mentioned, but this is allegedly a conversation regarding these accusations from 'SnakeThing'/'Nelizar'


The main points from this discussion is that SnakeThing has had conversions with Kero, and that he admits that Kero 'once had a soft interest in zoo'. SnakeThing's main claim, however, is that Kero is a good boy who dindu nuffin.

Compare this to a message that has been confirmed by three different sources to be directly linked to Kero's account.
"Well even normal Z stuff. If there's even a roumor of me being one ... It could destroy my YouTube career", in response to the quote
"Ofc', you don't have to tell him you're into roughzoo stuff. He's an extremely trustworthy guy, I assure yeh. c:"

The contradiction is obvious. What this contradiction means, depends on the truthfulness of SnakeThing.

If SnakeThing is telling the truth, and all of the chat logs were faked, that does not exonerate Kero. There is still a connection between SnakeThing, a known zoophile, and Kero. It also means that Kero has some degree of interest in zoophilia. While this is nowhere near as bad as the main accusation, it is still something that deserves tar and feathering right out of the furry community.

If SnakeThing is lying, then the logs against Kero are true, and prove that he is one of the worst furries to ever exist.

Alternatively, this whole conversation with SnakeThing is fake, in which nothing changes.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbzUOajs2d8&lc=UgyymfYZ0AWHPoFqjht4AaABAg.8lUeDbNjraP8lV26HwEoUQ

niggas in the comments section on Jim's video already coming out trying to go damage control mode and just powerleveling like mad. why do they enjoy just making shit about themselves screeching "OH FAM I'M NOT LIKE THAT DOE INNIT". paigons.
 
So I'm gonna tell you the story of a fandom that has been ridiculed for decades.

That fandom, having constantly been made fun of, having been equated with dog fuckers and everything, and forever scarred from that CSI episode (Fur and Damnation, if you need a reminder), have grown to be extremely defensive to criticism. They will stick together for the most part because that's what they evolved as a fandom to do when shit was thrown to them.

That fandom, always bracing for people out to get them, suddenly finds itself in a situation where many of its own are now accused of doing stuff so horrifying it defeats sanity. This fandom, having never had to deal with anything close to what has unfolded before their eyes, have no idea how to react. The accusations and evidence is the stuff of nightmares, something so insane it defies belief. Late-night /B/ shit.

Is it any surprise that the default reaction of so many of the people in this fandom is to huddle together and defend the accused?

I'm not defending them, they're fucking exceptional, but when you take into account everything that's been thrown at us over the years, it becomes a foregone conclusion that this is how any fandom would react to something like that. Can you blame us? You will because that's how you roll but we don't want to believe this insanity was happening behind our backs, that it went undetected for so long and that it happened under our noses.

And you might laugh at the people who are acting like this is gonna be bad for our fandom's image, because this is on a completely other level than what we're used to and it's particularly sensitive because it happens to involve actual animals. This is the worst case scenario, and after everything I just wrote, I ask again: Can you blame the people who are worried about the fandom's reputation after something like this?

That shit could've happened in any other fandom but it happens to be coming out of ours this time and that's what makes it worse to us as a whole. Equating all of us to this flow of subhuman garbage is the same as equating (and I'm not invoking godwin's law lightly here) all of germany to nazis and their atrocities because they're german and thus genocidal white supremacists. And we know that the moment this hits the news, not if but when, this shit'll stick to us longer than Fur and Damnation ever did.

I love the stuff you guys do, there's horrible people everywhere and documenting and ridiculing them is the lord's work, whatever the lord is to you, but there's nothing constructive to equating an entire fandom to the acts of people who had no business being in it. You will do it anyway, I can't stop you, but knock it off with the "LINE THEM UP AND SHOOT THEM ALL ASDKFASDFJASJF" autistic shrieking, it's not helping anyone and it only makes all of us on this very site look unhinged to outside viewers.

Over the years how many times have furries proclaimed "It's not a fetish!" or "We don't actually want to fuck animals!"?

It's funny, it's almost like a group of people held together solely by their desire to fuck animals might end up fucking some animals.

And this is just a small group that was caught and leaked. Imagine how many of them are still having these chats, still taking these videos, and still doing these unforgivable acts. Imagine how many are molesting or abusing their animals right now, and the people who know about it aren't saying anything because they want to be "accepted" by the furry community or are afraid that whistleblowing will harm the furry community's reputation.

Furrys have been shown to be actual degenerates over and over again, from dumb gay shit like ruining internet communities and vandalism all the way to actual real unforgivible crimes like zoophilia and pedophilia. The furry fandom is comprised almost exclusively of sexual deviants with no social skills and an array of mental malfunctions. The fact that a community with all these wierdos has no self-awareness and cannot take criticism or bants is a fact that can only lead to more bad shit happening.

Not all furries are literal dogfuckers, but the line between "wanting to fuck things that look like animals" and "wanting to fuck animals" gets blurrier and blurrier.


I love the stuff you guys do, there's horrible people everywhere and documenting and ridiculing them is the lord's work, whatever the lord is to you, but there's nothing constructive to equating an entire fandom to the acts of people who had no business being in it. You will do it anyway, I can't stop you, but knock it off with the "LINE THEM UP AND SHOOT THEM ALL ASDKFASDFJASJF" autistic shrieking, it's not helping anyone and it only makes all of us on this very site look unhinged to outside viewers.

This entire paragraph comes off as trollshielding.

No one here gives a fuck about constructiveness or optics. That's not going to change because you're personally bootybothered by the things people are saying. So I feel fully comfortable saying the following:

Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
 
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Just a reminder... this thing called "Nazi furries" or "Nazifurs" actually fucking exist. It's not... just a meme. The mainstream media actually wrote a bunch of gay hitpieces on this rubbish a while back:
https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...e-furry-community-have-a-nazi-problem-194282/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/furry-alt-right-russia-fandom_us_5aba4741e4b054d118e70e7d

Linking it to the alt-right:
https://www.newstatesman.com/scienc...-reich-truth-about-nazi-furries-and-alt-right

And what's complete without "antifafurs" or "anti-fascist furries"...? Fucking hell, they even have the updated faggot pride flag with the black and brown stripes.
https://twitter.com/antifafurs

I also found this in one of the "news" comments.
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I don't care what furs, let it be nazifurs or antifafurs, can we just exterminate them all?


ARCHIVE IT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

Pretty much finished reading the entire thread to this point. "This is fake" just seems implausible to me. To fake all this shit, one would have to make years of chatlog match up precisely with the timeline, whilst also somehow obtaining Kero's fursuit to fuck a dead animal, thus framing it on him, somehow, all for what reason? Just out of jealousy or something? The person also needs to learn the guy's typing habits and behaviour, this is harder to fake than one might fucking think. Moreover, some known zoophiles were found in the logs.

To prove Kero is innocent requires an almost infinite enlargement of the burden of proof. One must come up with such exceptional rationales such as "someone stole his suit" or "superhackers fucking with him".


https://archive.fo/ctVdb

Someone already posted it afterwards, I didn't want to double post it. Sorry =/
 
Who's suit is this? It's the dogfucker from one of the archived videos with a tame screenshot, looks like an older DHC suit.

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While Googling Sephius Rivendare I found this related material. Warning NSFW!

https://8ch.net/zoo/res/26529.html

His name is CoreyTWC or coreythewolf stated on some instagram posts, his furaffinity, e621 (apparently mostly feral porn), twitter (coreythewolftwc) and deviantart account have been disabled except his YT (Corey the wolf rules) . Also look at the artwork similarities between the fursuit and the name of the person who uploaded the snapchat pic.



Possible twitter alt https://twitter.com/coreythewolf (dead)
 

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His name is CoreyTWC or coreythewolf stated on some instagram posts, his furaffinity, e621 (apparently mostly feral porn), twitter (coreythewolftwc) and deviantart account have been disabled except his YT (Corey the wolf rules) . Also look at the artwork similarities between the fursuit and the name of the person who uploaded the snapchat pic.
You can't hotlink attachments from your PMs. Re-upload them.

I'm going to lose my shit trying to get this thread to actually archive stuff properly.

(And before anyone gets on my shit for overmoderating, this is a very busy thread and people shitposting absolute fucking nonsense constantly isn't helping.)
 
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Over the years how many times have furries proclaimed "It's not a fetish!" or "We don't actually want to fuck animals!"?
There's also the whole "getting defensive because of a CSI episode" thing, if your fandom HAS to defend itself because of an episode of a fucking crime show that aired back in 2003 then you know it's become the Chernobyl of :autism:. He also got the episode name wrong, it's called "Fur and Loathing" not Fur and Damnation.
 
This is a bit different then liking some weird obscure 2D shit to be honest. I don't particularly care what random shit they're into so long as it's not this, paedo shit, or rape. If they're willing to help and not stand by their piece of shit buddies I don't see why not to let em'.

The problem is that we have let them for this long and look back at cons like RainFurrest and Confurence, babies furs with a side of criminal activity ranging from drug use, property damage, grooming, etc.

The old furries have been covering this shit for years cause they know it's fucked up, they know that if society caught wind of it, they would rather die than live with the consequence for those actions. When you've been labeled by that shit, your life is ruined. They are willing to help with one thing and that is definitely cover for each other until one thing causes one of them to blow every one of them the fuck out for doing shit they shouldn't have. Furries tend to be highly hypocritical or have an ego that far proceeds how pathetic they are and they know it, they will not change it either. Kero would rather beat around the bush than ever coming clean about his actions.
 
I don't know if this tweet has been mentioned, but this is allegedly a conversation regarding these accusations from 'SnakeThing'/'Nelizar'
I also posted that a few pages ago on this thread too. I've posted screencaps of the coversation in case you need them for archival purposes.
Kero is/was following Nelizar on FA and Kero's dead boyfriend was friends with Nelizar on Steam (his dead boyfriend fucked dogs).

Is it possible to at least have a summary on Kero and SnakeThing on the OP on this thread? I'm seeing things get repeated over and over again.
 
So I'm gonna tell you the story of a fandom that has been ridiculed for decades.

That fandom, having constantly been made fun of, having been equated with dog fuckers and everything, and forever scarred from that CSI episode (Fur and Damnation, if you need a reminder), have grown to be extremely defensive to criticism. They will stick together for the most part because that's what they evolved as a fandom to do when shit was thrown to them.

That fandom, always bracing for people out to get them, suddenly finds itself in a situation where many of its own are now accused of doing stuff so horrifying it defeats sanity. This fandom, having never had to deal with anything close to what has unfolded before their eyes, have no idea how to react. The accusations and evidence is the stuff of nightmares, something so insane it defies belief. Late-night /B/ shit.

Is it any surprise that the default reaction of so many of the people in this fandom is to huddle together and defend the accused?

I'm not defending them, they're fucking exceptional, but when you take into account everything that's been thrown at us over the years, it becomes a foregone conclusion that this is how any fandom would react to something like that. Can you blame us? You will because that's how you roll but we don't want to believe this insanity was happening behind our backs, that it went undetected for so long and that it happened under our noses.

And you might laugh at the people who are acting like this is gonna be bad for our fandom's image, because this is on a completely other level than what we're used to and it's particularly sensitive because it happens to involve actual animals. This is the worst case scenario, and after everything I just wrote, I ask again: Can you blame the people who are worried about the fandom's reputation after something like this?

That shit could've happened in any other fandom but it happens to be coming out of ours this time and that's what makes it worse to us as a whole. Equating all of us to this flow of subhuman garbage is the same as equating (and I'm not invoking godwin's law lightly here) all of germany to nazis and their atrocities because they're german and thus genocidal white supremacists. And we know that the moment this hits the news, not if but when, this shit'll stick to us longer than Fur and Damnation ever did.

I love the stuff you guys do, there's horrible people everywhere and documenting and ridiculing them is the lord's work, whatever the lord is to you, but there's nothing constructive to equating an entire fandom to the acts of people who had no business being in it. You will do it anyway, I can't stop you, but knock it off with the "LINE THEM UP AND SHOOT THEM ALL ASDKFASDFJASJF" autistic shrieking, it's not helping anyone and it only makes all of us on this very site look unhinged to outside viewers.

I said it before, I will say it again. The furry community even if its not a "majority" of furs, has this issue because they either refuses to or are other wises unable to control their degenerate members. Degenerate shit has been going on for decades, form wearing fetish gear and engaging in sexual acts in front of minors (if its in a restricted area for it, or in the privacy of a hotel room who would care) in conventions to what we are talking about now. You have had a few attempts to clean it up maybe the most notable being the Burned Furs and even then that movement got derailed hard, and from what I gather there wasn't major interest in the furry community to even fix the issues.
 
Have we been able to ID that fursuiter yet? Ive already checked the DHC gallery and looks like the suit is too old to be included.
If you have a way of ID'ing fursuits let me know. There's a lot of fursuit pictures. I can get a collection of them going. They're using them like fucking Payday 2 bankrobber masks in these videos and pictures though.
 
If you want to write a summary go for it. I'm trying to organize things now.
Alright, I'll write a short summary later today. But if someone wants to beat me to it, go for it. I have work soon and I need to get away from the zoofucking crew for a while.

Also, remember RC fox?

apparently, this fucker knew about Kero all along.

https://twitter.com/That_Demon_Goat/status/1043273117475516418
Here's the archive in case it also gets deleted: http://archive.is/HRJja

Archive doesn't show all three screencaps from the conversation, so I posted them all in the spoilers. Everything is safe for work. For context, RC Fox is the man that's crying.

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Can this cunt also please get thrown in jail?
https://www.reddit.com/user/minemyface43

I erased a lot of my original commentary on this because I found out this guy is 14 (or at least claims to be) midway through this post. I'm still grossed out, but in a different way. I'm disturbed because he is a real example of someone young enough to eat up whatever shit someone like Kero feeds him. His journal page on FA describes that he's already attempted to be at a furry meetup.

Asking "Can you drink dog urine" http://archive.fo/R7qNu
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Page 1 of his reddit history http://archive.is/4yp4n
Page 2, interest in self-harm http://archive.fo/rZmzX
Couldn't archive page 3 for some reason, which is where he looked for dead baby content and apparently obsesses over Columbine. Watch out, Indianapolis.

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Dog consent.
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Likes babyfur and diaper shit. https://archive.fo/eT63H https://archive.fo/AWt5T


Google result of his username. http://archive.is/LLtek
I won't post everything I've found, but it's easy to find yourself and I've already archived what I saw. Worth mentioning that he already has an interest in cub porn, as seen by his Reddit and e621 account activity.

He also appears to be a self-professed drug user. Do his parents have any idea? They're against fursuiting, judging by his FA journal.
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His FA simultaneously states he's 21 in the bio. I'm not sure if that's meant to be the age of his fursona, or if he's actually pretending to be 14. I'll assume he's a minor.
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To reiterate someone else's point:
these are the type of people who would still defend and sub to Kero.
 

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I don't know if this angle has been covered yet by any other forums but I found another weird ((((coincidence)))). This "hacker" sent pictures out that I can't seem to trace back to any website of a fur-suit with identifiable markings that for some reason perfectly match up with the identifiable marks on Kero's fur-suit.

The first image is from Kero's youtube and the next is a picture from the ((((((hacked)))))) account

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Maybe my eyes are failing me but that looks like a dead match to me and before you say the chest colors don't match he has a different chest piece that he has been using for thumbnails that does and also both different chest pieces are posted later in the same chat log
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There's no reason anyone should be taking hyperbolic comments about furries on this Lithuanian basket weaving forum seriously.

Furry isn't a thing you should be taking personally. Furry is not something you should be identifying with.

Furry isn't a community, its a vague ass entertainment category.

Saying you like cartoon animals and fantasy creatures shouldn't be any more of an "identity" than it is an "identity" to be be someone who enjoys music, to enjoy books, to enjoy television, to enjoy movies, or to enjoy video games.

Sonic the Hedgehog fandom for example might be considered a community (not the best example given that Sonic the Hedgehog is now a multi-generational scene in which each generation was exposed to vastly different content).

Video games are not a community or a fandom in any real sense any more so than people who watch television might be a fandom.

Furry is a vague ass entertainment category that developed under the exact WRONG conditions of coming up alongside the internet before it attained a sense of what the heck it was trying to be, and ended up becoming an over-bloated scene attempting desperately to function as a unified fandom or community.

Its like a big bus with no steering wheel where something like half a dozen conductors elected by chance and popularity and not by merit insinuated themselves to the front of the bus, and instruct all the chattering, gabbering, half-indifferent passengers to try to lean to the left or the right in a vague attempt to steer the bus, and whether or not their directions have any effect, their intentions in the direction they intended to steer weren't wholesome or constructive to begin with, regardless of how many people on the bus may or may not have approved of said direction or even were aware of it.

There's no excuse for the apparent nexus of fandom activity, that being Furaffinity, to permit "bestiality" and "zoophilia" to exist on the site as valid search terms.

On the old and now defunct Nintendo of America "NSider" gaming forums, there was in its later days an offshoot of 4chan wannabe high schoolers who made an alternative forum called "Outsider" where they made fun of the NOA staff that ran the board, targeted members for trolling, and allowed content that was against the rules of the NSider website, and naturally Outsider became infamous on NSider.

NOA just added the fake word "outsid" to blocked search terms on their forum to prevent people from easily searching for mentions of the Outsider forums within their own website.

Instead of preventing inquiries into content, even if purely fictional, which could be accurately described using the terms "bestiality" or "zoophilia", they not only allow those inquiries, but permit that content to exist and be tagged as such.

This site, as I understand, allows CHILDREN to sign up and become members.

The idea that a site that specializes in adults only content to such a degree as this would allow children to join is extremely troubling, the detail that they'd need to input an age indicating adulthood and then manually disable easily accessible adult-content toggles means nothing.

A kid who finds this stuff, feels involved with the "community" and then finds that half or more of the material from their favorite artists is hidden from them is naturally going to be curious, and that's not to mention bullshit like people leaving inappropriate, fetish driven comments like someone dropping in uninvited on a harmless, "soft PG" rated piece of art of a fully clothed and tasteful character becoming a werewolf with something like "murr I want to do things to his pawbs >:3" or something like that which a kid would still get exposed to even when interacting with purely unobjectional art submissions.

So yeah, those in charge of this place are gonna allow soft and hardcore porn, including art the artists themsleves tag as "bestiality" on a site at the forefront where they KNOW kids are signing up if even just for the ability to interact with the fandom, but then complain about unfair treatment when outsiders with only a passing knowledge of furry associate them with hardcore porn and bestiality and possibly luring and grooming kids to pick up antisocial sexual interests.

And once again these deleniations on what they do and don't find acceptable are totally arbitrary, they'll allow artwork which is very obviously an artistic depiction of the sexual abuse of a non-anthropomorphic, non-sapient animal by a human being (something that even arguments like the "harkness test" or "its just a fantasy critter" can't be applied to), things which can be replicated in real life, or allow art depicting furries engaging in acts of rape or muder which can be replicated IRL, but then blow a gasket over artistic depictions of incest, and STILL allow artists to post the same piece across multiple sites in which on one site the piece is tagged incest and the artist describes the characters as siblings or as parent and child, but on Furaffinity insist that they're just similar looking friends or have an age difference, its a total farce.

And then Shaun Piche, when not engaging in his degenerate lifestyle of transforming into a digimon baby and pilfering bags of cheetos from french owned convenience stores, has the nerve to ban a user from the Furaffinity for "demoting the reputation of the fandom" by daring to appear on a television show and be honest about the most benign and harmless (though still obviously ridiculous) elements of the adult aspects of furry, while Piche himself has commissioned tons of adults only artwork of their original characters.

This is the behavior of someone who doesn't care about being family friendly and keeping a clean environment (something that needn't be necessary if he established FA as a proper adults-only space with strict codes of conduct), but of someone who cares about APPEARING 100% wholesome, about being "marketable" without actually earning that reputation.

This wouldn't be a problem if some dumb ass's website and a handful of others with similar poor enforcement of standards didn't become the forefront of the entire furry universe, but they did, and nothing meaningful has been done to even attempt to reverse it, because to do so would be to dismantle the community and face some painful realities such as "hey, maybe this fandom shouldn't be structured in such a way a homophobic neo nazi white supremacist and a transgendered gay jew are said to belong to the same community based purely on the fact that both might have some form of interest in toon critters".

As has been said, this false sense of community has sheltered bad people, and enough people are out there who care more about mitigating damage and trying to combate the APPEARANCE of their house having Termites and mice, as opposed to stipping their house down to the timbers and destroying the infestations at their source.

But because of the way the "fandom" or "community" is structured, a large number of the people who would be able to collectively make a difference or force improvement and hate living with a house with termites, aren't the landlord to their own house and can't call an exterminator, and have the choice of either putting up with living in an infested house that while having pests in the walls don't necessarily cause TOO many daily problems as long as they keep the house as clean as they're able to, would rather put up with that reality than move out and try to eke it out in a tent city that appears to be the only alternative.

Furry isn't something that makes sense to adopt as a sense of self or identity any more so than books or video games. Those may be genuinely important things to you, but they aren't who you are, they're a vaguely defined entertainment category, and even more so when that entertainment category has essentially been managed in its near entirety as though it were a trademarked commercial brand by a handful of people who refuse to act like adults and enforce standards of behavior, and care more about the appearance of being good people than actually being good people, and this culture is reflective of enough people that a video defending Kero's activities gets THOUSANDS of positive ratings, either from people who assume his innocence based on their unwillingness to change their mind about him, or based on the possibility of them supporting zoophile behavior.

Piche literally contacted Ian Dettmering and advised him to be more low key about his participation in the underground bestiality porn circuit. This isn't even a matter of some guy who filmed home video tapes with his dog in their house, though that would be bad enough but Ian is a guy who acted in the pay of a company that set up actual studio sets with proper lights and cameras and pressed DVDs of people being sodomized by trained/drugged dogs, among other things, and Piche being aware of this decided the conversation to have wasn't "get the fuck out of our community absolutely right now for sure, your activities will be forwarded to the police", but "lol please stop bragging about starring in dog porn it makes us look bad".

When someone here says "fuck furries", or describes obviously hyperbolic acts of violence against furries in general THAT is what they mean.

Don't respond personally to something that can't possibly be taken personally unless you make it about yourself.

If you aren't doing fucked up things or apologizing for fucked up people, don't worry about it when people complain about a scene that has actual fucked up things wrong with it.

It would be like a man on top of a hill watching a train with a sign bearing the words "Please beware the train." attached to the side, travel along a railroad in the distance and the man upon seeing this sign pointing to the bottom of the hill as the train rolls uneventfully by, and screams, "How dare the driver of the train taunt me with that sign, he's cleary making fun of me! How dare he insinuate that I'm not careful around trains!" and then run down to the bottom of the hill, onto the tracks, directly in front of the oncoming train, shaking his fists in anger at the engineer, demanding him to apologize for placing the offensive and insulting sign on the side of his train.
 
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