Law Justice Brett Kavanaugh Megathread - Megathread for Brett Kavanaugh, US Supreme Court Justice

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/trump-picks-brett-kavanaugh-for-supreme-court.html

President Donald Trump has picked Brett Kavanaugh, a federal appeals court judge with extensive legal credentials and a lengthy political record, to succeed Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the Supreme Court, NBC News reported.

Kavanaugh, 53, is an ideological conservative who is expected to push the court to the right on a number of issues including business regulation and national security. The favorite of White House Counsel Donald McGahn, Kavanaugh is also considered a safer pick than some of the more partisan choices who were on the president’s shortlist.

A graduate of Yale Law School who serves on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Kavanaugh has the traditional trappings of a presidential nominee to the high court.


If confirmed, the appellate judge would become the second young, conservative jurist Trump has put on the top U.S. court during his first term. Kavanaugh's confirmation would give the president an even bigger role in shaping U.S. policy for decades to come. The potential to morph the federal judiciary led many conservatives to support Trump in 2016, and he has not disappointed so far with the confirmation of conservative Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and numerous federal judges.

At times, he has diverged from the Republican party’s ideological line on important cases that have come before him, including on the Affordable Care Act, the 2010 health care law which Kavanaugh has declined to strike down on a number of occasions in which it has come before him.

Anti-abortion groups quietly lobbied against Kavanaugh, pushing instead for another jurist on Trump’s shortlist, 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Amy Coney Barrett, ABC News reported in the run-up to Trump’s announcement.

Kavanaugh received his current appointment in 2006 after five years in the George W. Bush administration, where he served in a number of roles including staff secretary to the president. He has been criticized for his attachment to Bush, as well as his involvement in a number of high-profile legal cases.

For instance, Kavanaugh led the investigation into the death of Bill Clinton’s Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, and assisted in Kenneth Starr’s 1998 report outlining the case for Clinton’s impeachment.

Democrats criticized Kavanaugh’s political roles during his 2006 confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Your experience has been most notable, not so much for your blue chip credentials, but for the undeniably political nature of so many of your assignments,” Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said at the time.

“From the notorious Starr report, to the Florida recount, to the President’s secrecy and privilege claims, to post-9/11 legislative battles including the Victims Compensation Fund, to ideological judicial nomination fights, if there has been a partisan political fight that needed a very bright legal foot soldier in the last decade, Brett Kavanaugh was probably there,” Schumer said.

Kavanaugh's work on the Starr report has been scrutinized by Republicans who have said it could pose trouble for the president as he negotiates with special counsel Robert Mueller over the terms of a possible interview related to Mueller's Russia probe. The 1998 document found that Clinton's multiple refusals to testify to a grand jury in connection with Starr's investigation were grounds for impeachment.

In later years, Kavanaugh said that Clinton should not have had to face down an investigation during his presidency. He has said the indictment of a president would not serve the public interest.

Like Trump's first nominee to the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch, Kavanaugh clerked for Kennedy. If he is confirmed, it will mark the first time ever that a current or former Supreme Court justice has two former clerks become justices, according to an article by Adam Feldman, who writes a blog about the Supreme Court.

Kavanaugh teaches courses on the separation of powers, the Supreme Court, and national security at Harvard Law School and Yale Law School, and does charitable work at St. Maria’s Meals program at Catholic Charities in Washington, D.C., according to his official biography.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ett-kavanaugh-nomination-by-a-28-point-margin

After a blistering confirmation battle, Justice Brett Kavanaugh will take his seat for oral arguments on the U.S. Supreme Court with a skeptical public, a majority of which opposed his nomination. However, Democrats may not be able to exploit this fact in the upcoming elections as much as they hope, because the independent voters overwhelmingly disapprove of their own handling of the nomination by a 28-point margin, a new CNN/SSRS poll finds.

Overall, just 41 percent of those polled said they wanted to see Kavanaugh confirmed, compared to 51 percent who said they opposed his confirmation. In previous CNN polls dating back to Robert Bork in 1987, no nominee has been more deeply underwater.

What's interesting, however, is even though Democrats on the surface would seem to have public opinion on their side, just 36 percent approved of how they handled the nomination, compared to 56 percent who disapproved. (Republicans were at 55 percent disapproval and 35 percent approval). A further breakdown finds that 58 percent of independents disapproved of the way the Democrats handled the nomination — compared to 30 percent who approved. (Independents also disapproved of Republicans handling of the matter, but by a narrower 53 percent to 32 percent margin).

Many people have strong opinions on the way the Kavanaugh nomination will play out in November and who it will benefit. The conventional wisdom is that it will help Democrats in the House, where there are a number of vulnerable Republicans in suburban districts where losses among educated women could be devastating, and that it will help Republicans in the Senate, where the tossup races are in red states where Trump and Kavanaugh are more popular.

That said, it's clear that the nomination energized both sides, and that the tactics pursued by the parties turned off independent voters in a way that makes it much harder to predict how this will end up affecting election outcomes.
 
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Wait wait did I miss something? I thought the alumnius thing was that they knew a girl who they were friends with that graduated at a different school, and they put that in the yearbook to say she was one of them?

Even if it isn’t though who fucking cares how some teenage boys thought of their teenage girl friend during their dumbest most sex-focused teenage years?
 
Wait Ford has sons?

I wonder if she has them terrorized of their own manhood and stripped of agency.

Wait wait did I miss something? I thought the alumnius thing was that they knew a girl who they were friends with that graduated at a different school, and they put that in the yearbook to say she was one of them?

Even if it isn’t though who fucking cares how some teenage boys thought of their teenage girl friend during their dumbest most sex-focused teenage years?

I was driving most of yesterday so I wasn't listening as closely as I wanted to at the time. Later on during the post mortem stream I got to listen to that section and it's way way more innocuous than you think. Apparently she was one of the female friends who'd hang out with this group of mostly guys. So a lot of them would take her to school dances and the like as a friend to have a date for it. The implication sounding to me like an "alumnus of her school function dates". That's the impression I got from the segment.
 
Nobody questioned her story one iota though aside from it maybe not being Kavanaugh. That's something that really pisses me off. Nobody even questioned her on how long she knew Bret Kavanaugh and through what. How did she know for certain it was Kavanaugh if she didn't know him well when studies show mistaken identity in rape cases has been shown to near 1/3? Was she familiar enough with Kavanaugh to be sure of something like that? To what extent? How was the polygraph conducted? Were you on any medication when the polygraph was conducted... These are the questions a defense attorney would ask and would count as questioning.


That's probably a real stat if having ass or tit grabbed in a bar or someone forcefully trying to kiss you counts. Shitty for sure, stuff like that shouldn't happen to anyone, but the minor end of that scale is hardly life ending.

Someone slapped my butt in a bar last night. Not even for a second did I think about setting up a gofundme or accusing the guy of rape. It's a non issue.
 
They just spent the last few weeks crucifying the stereotype of the type of moderate voter they need. The reasonably affluent career professional who is well-educated thoughtful and respected without a single blemish to spoil their reputation. Since they pissed away the last bit of goodwill with working class people in flyover country the soft spot for them are the upper middle class dads who coach their kids softball teams and drink beer on the weekends. They are the ones that would be most receptive to their policies. They are the swing vote.

But instead of reaching out to them they made them and their families look over their shoulder. They showed everyone just how easily they can yank the rug out from under people who don't play ball. Who are unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time and get in the way of their agenda. People exactly like them with a lot to lose and reputations to protect.

All to sway the remaining handful of women living under rocks that weren't polarized by this issue during the Trump campaign. Yeesh.

It’s actually worse than that. Disregard the pussy hated shrieking fools for a moment. While loud they are a minuscule segment of the US female electorate. The ones that win or lose you elections are the Soccer Moms. The vast army of suburban housewives. The Mommy bloggers, etc. And here is a rarely mentioned truism about humans. Yes we all know how Fathers are over protective of their daughters, and women in general. But the less noted dynamic is Mothers are even more rabidly protective of their sons. Especially with regard to women. Mothers don’t trust other women with regard to their sons. They don’t listen and believe. Every Mother’s knows another who’s son has faced questionable accusations. Who has been railroaded by a school on the basis of some girls false claims. The Mommies do not like The likes of Kamala Harris or Mazie Hirono. They don’t like what they are seeing in all of this. And they Vote. In large numbers. They vote pocket books and family interests. To them Kavanaugh is a stunning example of their family interests. Cory Booker is not.
 
Many pages back someone mentioned a comparison between Kavanaugh's response to all this bullshit and the time a guy whipped someone's ass with his cane on the senate floor. If I recall correctly that was one of the colorful moments leading up to the American civil war. We are on track for another massive civil schism. Fortunately the side I agree with is quite well armed, but unfortunately the side I disagree with controls major urban centers. If we do get civil war 2: electric boogaloo it will be an absolute fucking mess
It'll be easy, just get all the hillbillies to blockade the highways from letting the big rigs in, then get all those blue collar laborers in the city (garbage collectors, city maintenance, docks and/or railway shipping workers) to walk and the urban centers will crumble from lack of food, gas and the streets would be filled with filth. Also it would be pretty easy to do some urban sabotage you just have to trash the cable and electrical boxes to knock out the power and communication to entire blocks.
 
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It'll be easy, just get all the hillbillies to blockade the highways from letting the big rigs in, then get all those blue collar laborers in the city (garbage collectors, city maintenance, docks and/or railway shipping workers) to walk and the urban centers will crumble from lack of food, gas and the streets would be filled with filth. Also it would be pretty easy to do some urban sabotage you just have to trash the cable and electrical boxes to knock out the power to entire blocks.
Yea modern urban centers are a house of cards.
 
Yea modern urban centers are a house of cards.
I didn't even get into other aspects such as medical centers, airports, police departments and fire brigades but I reiterate once you control the three ways of water, rail and road and they stop getting food and gas they'll change their tune with the quickness.
 
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The stream's been stuck on Whitehouse's face, and he just looks like he's trying real hard to not shit himself in public.

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... a gang rapist? Seriously this is exactly the kind of eye-opening jaw-dropping shit that'll turn someone's heart to coal in a hurry, and nobody who's capable of thinking clearly would blame him for shooting them down on principle. Though I guess we'll just have to see.

I think he'll remember who exactly tried to pull this shit (principally Feinstein, with assists from the usual cast of extreme left assholes) and never forgive them personally, but I don't think he'll suddenly hate everyone with a D by their name and go out of his way to fuck any liberal case he hears. As others said, he appears to be a decent person and sacrificing your integrity in an important government post just to spite some assholes isn't decent. I do think he'll make conservative rulings consistently, which is not really a plus for me.

I doubt Feinstein will be around much longer for him to grudge out on anyway, she looks like Skeletor's grandmother.
 
The incident with the cane involved Charles Sumner, noted anti-slavery advocate, getting beaten half dead by Preston Brooks, a junior congressman who took umbrage to a speech Sumner gave which called out Preston's uncle, who was one of Sumner's opponents and quite pro-slavery.

Brooks then proceeded to savagely beat on Sumner with his cane until it broke and he had to be pulled off the man before he killed him.

Brooks was later censured for his actions as was a buddy of his, who knew what Brooks intended but said nothing. As for Sumner, he held no grudge against Brooks, saying years later Brooks had been just a much a victim of the passions of the slavery debate as had everyone else.

The same hyper partisanship reared it ugly head concerning the incident. The North was all "we knew the South's congressmen were thugs". The South, on the other hand, sent Brooks a ton of canes, including one inscribed "Hit him again!"

I consider this bald and crass attempt at character assassination of Kavanaugh based on shoddy evidence just as shameful as Brooks believing assault was a valid way to express his disgust with Sumner's views.
Insert Billy Mays, 'BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!'.

Sumner's speech was particularly inflammatory as there were a number of references to miscegenation and sexual congress with slaves, particularly white-man-on-black-woman. Oh, and referring to slavery as a 'harlot' and a 'whore'.

Forget dogwhistles; this shit was verbal napalm in 1856, and tensions were already high due to 'Bleeding Kansas'. I'd have been more shocked if he hadn't been attacked, and I agree with his view of things!

Also, Cory Booker reminds me of a second-rate Keegan-Michael Key impersonator. In fact, I'm pretty certain we could mail Booker to Africa, replace him with Key, and get better results.
 
Apparently she was one of the female friends who'd hang out with this group of mostly guys. So a lot of them would take her to school dances and the like as a friend to have a date for it. The implication sounding to me like an "alumnus of her school function dates". That's the impression I got from the segment.

Scandalous...?


But even if that’s all it is, it’s still incredibly benign...and not really uncommon. I knew several girls that went to school dances with boys from other district schools (or college dudes...). Is the accusation that they liked her and might have wanted to sleep with her? Show me a straight teenage boy that doesn’t want to fuck one/all of the girls he’s friends with. (And you’re lying if you say you never did)

I can’t help but feel that this entire shitshow is people that quite literally *don’t* understand teenage social activities because they didn’t do anything as a teenager...and as a result we now we have it on official court record that a senator asked a judge what “ralphing,” is and then had a drinking game explained to him...
 
Yo, anybody else notice the massive shit eating grin Ford was wearing during 90% of the whole fiasco?

Ford's body language outside her testimony was utterly bizare. She had a very constatly choked voice that isn't how people talk when genuinely upset. She did not stop, she did not falter, she read that "brave and courageous" statement of hers like a fourth grade play. The minute she finished she was grinning and being constantly interrupted by her law team to make sure she didn't say anything stupid while being spoken to gently by the prosecutor.

It reminded me a lot of Mick Pilpott a man wh murdered his six children in a house fire. His body language was all over the shop as well during his statements.
 
Rapists getting off the hook is just as bad as innocent men loosing their careers. Both are equal derelictions of justice if you ask me.

The only reason girls will decline to report crimes against themselves in significant numbers as a result of this will be because the left-wing convinces them. The chance of liars lying cannot and should not interfere with justice; in fact, the liars should be brought to justice themselves.

Can't say I blame him to be fair. If some crazy person came into my workplace and started demanding I look at them when they're screeching at me I'd look uncomfortable.

If someone did that to me, I'd summon security to remove them, lest I wing a stapler at their head.

If it was the Democrats' goal to galvanize their opponents, then well met, I suppose...

Kavanaugh did the one thing nobody was prepared for: fighting back. He got mad. He took it personally, as he should, and he called it exactly what it was, in no uncertain terms.

A good man fights, but a great man inspires others to fight with him, because a great man has a Cause. And that was what happened. He elevated it from a personal matter to a Cause, and it reminded the others of something far, far higher, something they could fight for.

Fuck me running, I went from not really caring, to liking, to actively admiring Brett Kavanaugh. I can count on one hand the number of people I regard that highly. This timeline.
 
Ford's body language outside her testimony was utterly bizare. She had a very constatly choked voice that isn't how people talk when genuinely upset. She did not stop, she did not falter, she read that "brave and courageous" statement of hers like a fourth grade play. The minute she finished she was grinning and being constantly interrupted by her law team to make sure she didn't say anything stupid while being spoken to gently by the prosecutor.

It reminded me a lot of Mick Pilpott a man wh murdered his six children in a house fire. His body language was all over the shop as well during his statements.
The obvious takeaway from this is that she actually gangraped him.
 
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