Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

Waid Livestream - What will happen?

  • Talks about the lawsuit.

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • Further incriminates himself.

    Votes: 18 48.6%
  • Defames YaBoi again.

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Normal interview. (no drama)

    Votes: 2 5.4%

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Not a lawyer, but from what I understand they can't use the Sherman because the lawsuit is focused primarily on Waid who is being sued in his personal capacity. Not in his capacity as an employee of Marvel. There is also some debate as to whether he even IS an employee of Marvel rather then just some dude they have a contract with. There is a legal distinction.

Of course this is just the preliminary phase, and we have yet to reach discovery. If it turns out that Marvel execs/management knew about and/or encouraged Waids actions, then they could get sucked into the mess. From what I am seeing though Meyers lawyer wants to run a tight ship and go for what he can reasonably get, as opposed to going full Captain Ahab and hunt a white whale.

We need to stop assuming all eggs in one basket. Suing Waid does not close out the possibility of action against the Mouse later. Should evidence come out that Mark was in any way enabled or approved by Marvel officers. At this stage there is not enough to drag Disney into it and trigger five years of expensive hell. Disney today would likely apologize, claim no knowledge of the contractors actions, and otherwise seek to distance themselves. But if in Discovery communications are found with Marvel Entertainment Officers, things can change. If Joe Quesada or Sana Amanatt are in that private Facebook group blacklisting people? Woof!

As pointed when it first happened, "there was nothing stopping him from seeing another publisher!" is nonsense as Meyer was targeted for being Meyer. Do they really expect anyone to believe that if Image or some other publisher deciding to pick him up that the mob and Waid wouldn't go after them next? How many companies need to be muscled for that to be acknowledged or are we going to do the "Motherfucker deserves it" shtick.

This is why you need to carry your thoughts out to their conclusion.

It'd be silly to chase after it but considering we had Joe Quesada voice similar opinions and we've had some employees bring up Google Hangouts and such, couldn't it be argued that this Autism Jihad is "Unofficially officially supported by Marvel Entertainment"? Fuck if I know how deep the rabbit hole goes but it's interesting how heads of the company agree though we haven't heard them comment on Waid's actions.
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The damage was when Waid interfered with the existing contract. Meyer being forced to seek another route. It does not matter if he could find one. He had been denied the route to market.

And yes there is extreme risk to Disney if Quesada or Amanatt, both ME VP’s are in any of these private industry discussion groups. They are clear collusion. But Meyer needs the action against Waid to crack those open and enter them into th3 record.

I kinda believe that's not really an option for Waid. If still goes after Zack then he's risking getting into shit again and if he says anything apologetic then he just nuked his career with a hundred "MARK WAID SUPPORTS COMICSGATE" articles. This environment doesn't really support backing down.

He will most likely settle with no admissions of fault. Waid has money or valuable assets, such as IP’s he owns. His lawyer will push for quick quiet settlement.

Because apparently as a strategic matter Meyer's lawyer felt it was better not to drag in the whole corporate octopus, perhaps deciding the deep pockets weren't worth fucking with The Mouse, or perhaps simply deciding that Waid's pockets are themselves sufficiently deep. I doubt we'll know for sure without Meyer's lawyers publicly disclosing their legal strategies, which seems unlikely and unwise.

As a theoretical matter? They could dissociate themselves from Waid by claiming he was either an independent contractor who acted on his own, or was engaged in a "frolic of his own" rather than acting on their behalf as an employee. Or argue both in the alternative even though they're semi-contradictory.

They really could have made the decision for any number of reasons, and if you read the complaint, it's a fairly lucid and minimal complaint limiting the case and the arguments to the simplest presentation rather than diving into the underbrush of sperging about every tiny detail. I think this is probably actually a good idea, as much fun as it was when this first happened to speculate wildly about how there were a couple dozen causes of action here if you got creative.



Truth is a defense in a defamation case. So it might be relevant to that part of the case. It's not really relevant to a tortious interference case where the defendant is accused of improperly inducing a third party to breach a contract with the plaintiff.

Waid doesn't have to have said anything untrue for that to be a tort. If he contacted Antarctic Press and said bad things would happen to them if they didn't breach their contract with Meyer, he broke the law.

This. Plus at this stage there is likely no reason to go after Disney. Disney is not a hostile party yet. Their published policies expressly forbid what Waid did. If Disney was contacted by Meyers attorneys they are likely cooperating and apologetic. At this stage it is simply a complaint to Disney management. Meyer and Disney will probably reach a private agreement.

So I've been reading up on this Mark Zaid person. Is it the same one who tends to take government jobs and national security cases? If so who's paying for him? Waid I don't think has the money for it as comic writers don't make as much as artists since all they can do at conventions is sign comics and his comics aren't worth all that much (9.8CGC signed Deadpool #1 from 1994 is less than $300 and all he asks for is probably the usual $20 for a signature.). Compare that to an artist who can make between $400 to $2000 for a drawing at a convention.

Waid has some bucks. Or properties he can leverage. Disney or Marvel HR likely gave him the name of an industry lawyer who does that sort of work. All HR departments will do that. But no way are they paying for it. No way either Ike Perlmutter or Disney are indemnifying Waid’s Social Media antics. Remember Ike makes staff bring their own toilet paper.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Tbh i didn't really believe the antitrust thing had much of a chance, but it wouldve been interesting. The only knowledge I have of Meyers complaint is the Rekieta video, but do you know what sort of relief yabois asking for? Aside from the 75k that made it sufficient as a diversity jurisdiction, which I highly doubt Waid has, was he asking for a public apology for Waids accusations?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a potential antitrust case something that would be brought against Marvel/Disney by some representative the state, not by any private individual?

This is a civil dispute between Waid and Zach, but a further suit could potentially be happening if Waid is deemed to have an employee status at Marvel and/or they are deemed to actively or tacitly approved Waids behavior. In that case (remote as it might be), it seems Marvel/Disney would be playing with fire if they are paying for Waid's lawyer.

Meyer filed an FTC complaint. That may result in FTC or Justice Dept Action, or not. From a costs benefits view there is no reason for him to go further down that path, at this time. Discovery may change things however. It isn’t an all or nothing decision.

While the assumption is that Disney is paying for the lawyer, at the moment I find it more likely Zaid is a lawyer known or employed by Disney, and Waid was referred to him.

Marvel HR likely has a list of industry lawyers that they will hand out. This is normal. Beyond that Waid is on his own. There is no way Disney indemnified this or assumes ownership, unless they face legal risk. Right now they don’t.
 
Also any jury in this case is going to be a Texas jury. Remember how a Florida jury viewed the smirking, arrogant Gawker defendants Nick Denton and Albert Daulerio? Remember what they did to those two?

Imagine that but Texas sized. Imagine how a jury full of people taken from their jobs and lives to hear this case will react to a spastic, hyper-liberal SJW shitstain who looks down on them and everything about them and views himself as the moral superior of everyone in the room, who illegally fucked over a guy who looks and acts a lot more like they do.

It gets funnier when it's revealed the pudgy screaming manchild for the coasts tried to fuck over not Richard C Meyer the youtube critic and small business owner. Nope they will be introduced to Sgt Richard C Meyer (retired) who served in the USMC for 4 years from 2000 to 2004 the army reserve and the army from 2008 to 2010 ish.

In front of a Texas jury.

Good luck hashtaggers you're going to need it or an oil barrel of astroglide for the buttfuckingbWaid just offered you all. :story:
 
Imagine that but Texas sized. Imagine how a jury full of people taken from their jobs and lives to hear this case will react to a spastic, hyper-liberal SJW shitstain who looks down on them and everything about them and views himself as the moral superior of everyone in the room, who illegally fucked over a guy who looks and acts a lot more like they do.

Basically this?

In a charming Texas drawl: "Ladies and gentlemen of this TEXAS jury, we will show that this JEW York LIE-beral did conspire to harm our home town hero the BRAVE VETERAN SOLDIER!"
*smash cut to Ya Boi in his dress uniform saluting the flag and a crying eagle, with Waid/Zaid in the background grabbing at his shekels while sneering*
 
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Hashtags don't win court cases. If anything, it's giving Meyer more ammo by showing the extent of Waid's reach.

Speaking of which. I find it funny that anti-CG shot themselves in the foot by demanding Meyer give money to charity. That's just more points in Meyer's favour since Waid's entire case/anti-CG's argument boils down to "He's a bigot and a bad person!".
 
Nope they will be introduced to Sgt Richard C Meyer (retired) who served in the USMC for 4 years from 2000 to 2004 the army reserve and the army from 2008 to 2010 ish.

Put it this way. It's going to be irl G.I. Joe versus a dude from a cabal that turned comics G.I. Joe into an S&M bondage fairy.
 
Why do we have wrongful dismissal lawsuits if the plaintiff could just get another job?

You should definitely take legal advice from this guy.

It's like they don't realize having to go through the hassle of finding another publisher or a new line of work is not quantifiable damage that a court can adjudicate. Really digging Meyers attorney. His 9 page complaint is as tight as a walnut corset, as he has already headed off this argument by pointing this defense out and turned Zack having to self publish into an unnecessary expense that is actionable.

Hell it even convinced good boy Lemnard French, and that dude is not what could be described as a conservative partisan.
 
Aren't those his wife's kids though?

Do you mean to say, sir that this man this HERO has had his potential livelihood threatened and put at risk the family life he has strived to provide three beautiful children? The stability he has helped provide those children from a broken home was threatened by Mr Waid's actions.

Meanwhile this Mark Waid is a confirmed batchelor at the age of nearly sixty. It seems he acted out of jealousy not just of his s potential success, no he was jealous of the family life many of us are fortunate enough to enjoy and cherish.


Hows my TV courtroom lawyer?
 
If you want even more chuckles, read the comments on the garbage-tier Bleeding Cool article: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/0...id-tortious-interference-contract-defamation/

If you want more actual information, read the Bounding Into Comics article: http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/...tarctic-press-dropped-jawbreakers-lost-souls/

Reminder:
Making homophobic comments hurts those of us who suck dick for a living under the freeway.

Respect people in such a situation like Brianna Wu.
 
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